# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news\
**Created:** [February 24, 2022, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037 "2022-02-24T08:30:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8667 "2022-09-27T21:06:33Z")

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Seems like they didn’t even bother getting some idiot to mark the да boxes:  
[![](https://i.redd.it/jx0zio45bgq91.jpg) ](https://i.redd.it/jx0zio45bgq91.jpg)

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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8668 "2022-09-27T21:15:40Z")

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Those are just the ballots of the 2% or so that didn’t vote in support of joining Russia 😜

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8669 "2022-09-27T21:19:41Z")

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Seriously, if Russia wanted its sham referendums to look legit, why not give results like **“57% of Khersonites voted to join Russia, 43% refused?”** That looks a lot more plausible and respectable.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8670 "2022-09-27T21:27:20Z")

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The regions have been vacated by large chunks of the residents. This is like saying that the 10 million residents of Antarctica all voted to be annexed by Russia.

Everyone knows that there aren’t 10 million people living in Antarctica, so the result is clearly not based on anything.

There’s really not much value in trying to make it seem otherwise.

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**Author:** ![Dahnlor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dahnlor/32/533_2.png) [@Dahnlor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dahnlor)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2022, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8671 "2022-09-27T22:14:57Z")

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Looks like Ukraine has captured their first POWs from the “mobiks”

> <https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1574771102546632705?s=20&t=Q3SrDEwNb3svEUU7hiO5zw>

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8672 "2022-09-28T01:45:06Z")

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It would be cool if I could understand one word of what he’s saying, or understand why he’s wearing an elf hat.

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**Author:** ![Kedikat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kedikat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kedikat)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8673 "2022-09-28T01:52:39Z")

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Did, maybe, the U.S. and Ukraine, act as barrier troops to German government option of having natural gas flow, part of negotiation with Russia? Or next level conspiracy. Did German government also go in on it, to eliminate the option as a hope for folks in Germany, in any negotiations?  
Have to stay all in now. As there is no great benefit to negotiate now.  
Pipeline go boom. Options go boom.

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**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8674 "2022-09-28T01:54:55Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> It would be cool if I could understand one word of what he’s saying, or understand why he’s wearing an elf hat.

From the comments on that Twitter feed it sounds like he was drafted about 6 days ago. He gets confused at one point, claiming to have been drafted into the Soviet army and then realizing his mistake when his captors remind him that there’s no more Soviet Union.

The comments are brutal, including that he set the record for doing a “speed run” from his couch in Moscow to a Ukrainian prison.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8675 "2022-09-28T02:01:06Z")

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A version with subtitles is posted on @wartranslated’s Twitter. I won’t post it, because IMO the guy is pretty clearly being coerced to read from a script. As violations of the Geneva conventions go it’s relatively small potatoes, but it nonetheless leaves a pretty bad taste in my mouth.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8676 "2022-09-28T02:03:16Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> It would be cool if I could understand one word of what he’s saying, or understand why he’s wearing an elf hat.

Or what a ‘mobik’ is.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8677 "2022-09-28T02:03:46Z")

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> [@FlikTheBlue](#):
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> The comments are brutal, including that he set the record for doing a “speed run” from his couch in Moscow to a Ukrainian prison.

He’s a lucky man!

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**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8678 "2022-09-28T02:20:28Z")

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mo’ bad news for russia:

I see a 2nd Izyum in the cards (blue bubbles = settlements retaken by Ukr in the past day/days):

> <https://twitter.com/WarMonitor3/status/1574897554747269132/photo/1>

that is the pocket forming around Lyman and that will be another huge blow

The vertical lines to the right of the map are vital supply lines for the eastern and southern front… It’s def. an uphill struggle for the russians

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8679 "2022-09-28T02:25:13Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Or what a ‘mobik’ is.

Fairly sure that’s someone who was drafted. Although I’m pretty sure that should be “mobnik”, from _mob_ilization + _-nik_ “one associated with” (as in beatnik).

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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8680 "2022-09-28T02:39:42Z")

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> [@Al128](#):
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> 2nd Izyum in the cards

I’ve been following this pincer movement for days. Let’s hope the weather cooperates. I wonder if commanders in the field will obey Putin’s no retreat order, even if it means the loss or capture of ~3500 Russian troops currently in the salient?

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8681 "2022-09-28T02:42:23Z")

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I’m not sure they have a choice anymore. The road back through Zarichne is already close to being contested, and is most assuredly under the guns of a lot of Ukrainian artillery. It’s looking a lot like surrender or die fighting to the last man.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8682 "2022-09-28T03:26:52Z")

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And Putin wants them to die.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8683 "2022-09-28T07:11:11Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> Although I’m pretty sure that should be “mobnik”, from _mob_ilization + _-nik_ “one associated with” (as in beatnik).

It’s “mobik”. Not sure if it’s Ukrainian or Russian slang, even though the -_nik_ of beatnik does indeed derive from Russian.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8684 "2022-09-28T07:38:40Z")

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Differences between _-nik_ and _-ik_ endings, if one wants to get down in the weeds:

[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-ник#Russian](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA#Russian)  
[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-ик#Russian](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-%D0%B8%D0%BA#Russian)

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8685 "2022-09-28T08:45:01Z")

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Ukraine should release their own equally-valid poll results:

“98% of all Russians believe Vladimir Putin smells of wee”

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8686 "2022-09-28T08:51:59Z")

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New Russian milblogger Rybar map and update:

> <https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1575043916478353408>

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