# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news\ **Created:** [February 24, 2022, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037 "2022-02-24T08:30:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 433
**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8707 "2022-09-28T19:07:12Z")
Being on a train for a day or three is not training. Except in Russia. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8708 "2022-09-28T20:07:32Z")
Good analysis by Fiona Hill: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/-1msgbhI9qc/maxresdefault.jpg "'Complete and utter nuclear blackmail': Fiona Hill on Putin's brinksmanship") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1msgbhI9qc) ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8709 "2022-09-28T23:10:14Z")
> **[Fact Check: Did Pro-Putin TV Host Get Mobilized into Russian Army?](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/fact-check-did-pro-putin-tv-host-get-mobilized-into-russian-army/ar-AA12lehH)** > > A prominent Putin ally appeared to air grievances on live TV after supposedly receiving a conscription notice, but is the translation accurate? ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8710 "2022-09-28T23:14:02Z")
intersting tweet > the black dotted lines are train lines… ---
**Author:** ![Kedikat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kedikat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kedikat)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8711 "2022-09-28T23:56:17Z")
Some maybe interesting pipeline blast info. The source is usually pro Russian. But sometimes real hard on Russia too. Maybe an array of contributors, editors. Always real short. A couple other sources also noted reports about U.S. ships useful for such task in the area. > **[No Way Back For Europe](https://odysee.com/@SouthFront:4/no-way-back-for-europe:b)** > > DEAR FRIENDS. IF YOU LIKE THIS TYPE OF CONTENT, SUPPORT SOUTHFRONT WORK : > > BTC: bc1qgu58lfszcpqu6fd8l98m378wgzugyg9y93lcym > BITCOINCASH: qr28d80s5juzv2793k5jrq59xrl5fxd8qg9h3zlkk2 > MONERO (XMR): 86yfEHs... ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8712 "2022-09-29T00:48:43Z")
Here’s what Wikipedia has to say about the website you have linked to: > [@](#): > > **SouthFront** (sometimes written **South Front** ) is a multilingual fake news website registered in Russia that, according to the European Union’s EU vs Disinfo, publishes news focused on “security issues, foreign policy, military analysis and reports on military hardware” while “loyally relaying whatever suits the Kremlin.” > **[SouthFront](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SouthFront)** > > SouthFront (sometimes written South Front) is a multilingual website registered in Russia and based in Crimea. It has been accused by multiple sources of being an outlet for disinformation and propaganda under the control of the Russian government. For this reason, it has been sanctioned by the US Treasury and banned by social media platforms. > In 2014, Radio Free Europe, reported: "The English-language Facebook page for South Front, which has slightly more than 11,500 subscribers, is a mix of c... ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8713 "2022-09-29T00:51:18Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > This is is an amazing spectacle: That video is hilarious. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Kedikat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kedikat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kedikat)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8714 "2022-09-29T01:35:35Z")
Ignore as much as you like. ---
**Author:** ![Kedikat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kedikat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kedikat)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8715 "2022-09-29T01:45:59Z")
It is interesting to note, that as soon as the regions who voted to join the Russian Federation are officially accepted, all the current militias and so forth that exist in these areas, come under direct Russian military control. I have no idea what sorts of conditional control they have been under. Has there been any level of independent tactical command? Has it been only for Donbas public opinion consumption? There may be a whole addition of personnel from grunt to top level command that may be integrated into Russian military structure. That sounds like tons of fun! A Donetsk Militia General, raised to Russian General? Hmmmm Full pay and pension? Full command allowance? Might be some friction. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8716 "2022-09-29T01:53:13Z")
> [@Kedikat](#): > > That sounds like tons of fun! A Donetsk Militia General, raised to Russian General? Hmmmm Full pay and pension? Full command allowance? I don’t think retirement is high on the wish list of Russian Generals in this war. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8717 "2022-09-29T01:54:23Z")
> [@Kedikat](#): > > Ignore as much as you like. He’s not ignoring, he’s just helpfully pointing out that this is most likely Russian propaganda, being directly orchestrated by the Kremlin. You can choose to keep repeating from sources like this, or learn and stop doing this. Your choice. ---
**Author:** ![Kedikat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kedikat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kedikat)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8718 "2022-09-29T02:07:48Z")
I find it useful to peruse a lot of slanted sources. Comparing what pro and anti sources choose to include and exclude is often telling. What is excluded is often very informative. And if they agree? Wow. I may actually have a solid fact! Maybe… I take about 6 hours a day and many sources to try and parse out all the stuff. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8719 "2022-09-29T02:19:11Z")
Wow, 6 hours a day, huh? Sounds like a complete waste of time compared to using non-biased, non-propaganda sources. ---
**Author:** ![Kedikat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kedikat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kedikat)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8720 "2022-09-29T02:19:59Z")
I am willing to view an hour long or more in depth discussion with several participants. Discussing current and historical aspects. What a total waste of time, when I can just spend a few moments viewing a social media channel post. And get the full picture. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8721 "2022-09-29T02:31:09Z")
Hah, if you think I’m consuming social media for my news, you’re out of your ever-loving mind. If you want to watch propagandists for hours on end, knock yourself out. I will continue to advise against it. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8722 "2022-09-29T02:34:18Z")
Removed ---
**Author:** ![Kedikat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kedikat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kedikat)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8723 "2022-09-29T02:35:21Z")
I am dropping it. ---
**Author:** ![Kedikat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kedikat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kedikat)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8724 "2022-09-29T04:19:56Z")
As the military and I suppose political organizations of the Donbas areas are about to become Russian Federation members. There should occur a marked change in military tactics. I think it may take some time for these to be enacted in the field. I suspect a month at least? Maybe a lot longer. Physical things have to move into place. It seems to me that Russia can no longer cede any territory from those areas that “voted” to be in the Russian Federation even tactically temporarily. Going forward Russia must defend every inch. Otherwise a terrible black eye. So all defensive forces are locked in at the least. Must be backed up fully. So the mobilization is a 100% must have at the minimum. But a large portion of Donetsk is still out there. Does this obviously telegraph what Russia has to do, very soon? A big offensive to take outstanding Donetsk territory? There are ongoing successful Ukraine incursions to the Luhansk/Kharkov and northern Donetsk areas. How soon can Russia get things out there to do effective things? Donetsk folks will be pretty pissed going all winter being shelled and not having the whole Oblast claimed. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8725 "2022-09-29T04:23:55Z")
> [@Kedikat](#): > > It is interesting to note, that as soon as the regions who voted to join the Russian Federation are officially accepted, 1. They didn’t vote to join. 2. “Officially”- you mean Unilaterally. 3. The Militia there is likely less powerful than the Proud Boys. > [@Kedikat](#): > > As the military and I suppose political organizations of the Donbas areas are about to become Russian Federation members 1. No they aren’t. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/8726 "2022-09-29T04:29:37Z")
The Secretary General of the Russian Olympic Committee has fled the country and said she has no plans to go back. > **[ROC secretary general Anastasia Davydova has fled Russia](https://www.infobae.com/aroundtherings/articles/2022/09/27/roc-secretary-general-anastasia-davydova-has-fled-russia/)** > > Davydova's former coach confirmed to Russian news agency TASS that the five-time Olympian has left Russia with no plans to return [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037.md?page=432) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037.md?page=434)