# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news\ **Created:** [February 24, 2022, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037 "2022-02-24T08:30:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 466
**Author:** ![Kedikat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kedikat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kedikat)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9369 "2022-10-09T03:16:25Z")
Absolutely. Wonder if somewhere in the military complex there is a formula that converts, In Your Face!, to tons of TNT? ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9370 "2022-10-09T03:22:32Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > This article seems to confirm the 182,000 balls in one of the new HIMARS warheads. There is also some video of testing. It looks pretty damn brutal. I’m itching to see the 182,000 sprayed at a field of Russian infantry walking in the open… ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9371 "2022-10-09T03:31:55Z")
> [@Seanette](#): > > > [@Broomstick](#): > > > > there are epic levels of snark, then there are _Ukrainian_ levels of snark > > I love this comment. I know that the letter from the Cossacks to the Turkish Sultan is apocryphal, but the legend and the painting certainly seem to capture something in the Ukrainian psyche: indomitable humour in the face of an enemy. > **[Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reply_of_the_Zaporozhian_Cossacks)** > > Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks is a painting by Ilya Repin. It is also known as Cossacks of Saporog Are Drafting a Manifesto and Cossacks are Writing a Letter to the Turkish Sultan (Russian: Запорожцы пишут письмо турецкому султану, romanized: Zaporozhtsy pishut pis'mo turetskomu sultanu; Ukrainian: Запорожці пишуть листа турецькому султанові, romanized: Zaporozhtsі pyshut' lysta turets'komu sultanovi). > Repin began the 2.03 m (6 foot 8 inch) by 3.58 m (11 foot 9 inch) canvas in 1880 and fi... > **[Correspondence between the Ottoman sultan and the Cossacks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correspondence_between_the_Ottoman_sultan_and_the_Cossacks)** > > The Correspondence between the Ottoman sultan and the Cossacks, also variously known as the Correspondence between the Cossacks and the Ottoman/Turkish sultan, is a collection of apocryphal letters claiming to be between a sultan of the Ottoman Empire (usually identified as Mehmed IV) and a group of Cossacks, originally associated with the city of Chyhyryn, Ukraine, but later with Zaporizhzhia, Ukraine. > According to traditional interpretations, the sultan's letter and the Cossack response (als... ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9372 "2022-10-09T03:44:55Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > I’m itching to see the 182,000 sprayed at a field of Russian infantry walking in the open… I’m not. I take no pleasure in massacres of conscripts. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9373 "2022-10-09T05:49:51Z")
I understand your enthusiasm, but wishing death upon conscripts who have been pressed into battle with little or no training, and no desire to be there at all, seems a little callous. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9374 "2022-10-09T05:52:02Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > wishing death upon conscripts who have been pressed into battle with little or no training, and no desire to be there at all, seems a little callous. Then I would encourage them to surrender. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9375 "2022-10-09T05:54:01Z")
> [@Al128](#): > > paraphrasing here, but it was something along the line of “ **unmaned maritime vehicle** ” They shaved it before shipping it over? How peculiar. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9376 "2022-10-09T05:54:50Z")
Before, or after @Velocity’s wished for hail of tungsten balls kills them? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9377 "2022-10-09T05:57:21Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > Before, or after @Velocity’s wished for hail of tungsten balls kills them? Before would be preferable. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9378 "2022-10-09T06:30:58Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Before would be preferable. But they have to bring cookies and a tank as a processing fee with the understanding they will be housed in a school or hospital. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9379 "2022-10-09T12:46:18Z")
This interesting little piece from The Guardian: > Moscow had claimed the Kerch crossing was virtually untouchable – protected by layers of defences from **trained military dolphins** to the latest missile systems – making the attack particularly damaging. Maybe if the dolphins had frickin’ laser beams on their heads the bridge would still be intact. > **[Putin dealt bitter blow as blast cripples key bridge to Crimea](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/08/putin-dealt-bitter-blow-as-blast-cripples-key-bridge-to-crimea)** > > Ukrainians relish show of Russian vulnerability after explosion on supposedly untouchable 12-mile prestige structure ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9380 "2022-10-09T12:49:13Z")
Indeed. Here’s a picture. > ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9381 "2022-10-09T13:16:45Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > This interesting little piece from The Guardian: > > > Moscow had claimed the Kerch crossing was virtually untouchable – protected by layers of defences from **trained military dolphins** to the latest missile systems – making the attack particularly damaging. > > Maybe if the dolphins had frickin’ laser beams on their heads the bridge would still be intact. AHA! Radio-Controlled Robot Suicide Dolphins!! Those clever Ukrainians… Press on. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9382 "2022-10-09T13:18:10Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Maybe if the dolphins had frickin’ laser beams on their heads the bridge would still be intact. When asked for comment, the dolphins replied “Так долго и спасибо за все рыбы”. ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9383 "2022-10-09T13:20:54Z")
. theory (above) vs. practical . > > > the whole russian shitshow (aka the war) reminds me of the scene on the Naked Gun, where somebody falls and why lying on the asphalt ever worse thing happen to the person … (the marching band) ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9384 "2022-10-09T13:33:48Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Then I would encourage them to surrender. I doubt that’s easy in practice. You need to escape to surrender, and desertion presumably carries a death penalty. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9385 "2022-10-09T15:34:41Z")
Looking at the video again there was a HEAVY East/West wind. You can see it in the railroad bridge burning and also the road bridge. When looking at the rail fire it’s ALL from the bridge blowing west. None of the smoke is East of the bridge. When looking at the road bridge it’s coming from the East blowing over the road. If it was a truck bomb there wouldn’t be any smoke East of the bridge due to the wind yet it all appears to come from the East billowing up and over the bridge. I suspect the bomb was timed to meet the rail cars knowing they contain fuel and all the sparks in the smoke (which are substantial) are some form of incendiary device designed to ignite the ruptured fuel tanks. ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9386 "2022-10-09T16:37:39Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > When asked for comment, the dolphins replied “Так долго и спасибо за все рыбы”. I recognized one word in that and knew exactly what you’d said. Well played. ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9387 "2022-10-09T17:49:54Z")
Translation of dolphin joke for uneducated Westerners, plz and thx? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9388 "2022-10-09T17:52:24Z")
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