# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news\ **Created:** [February 24, 2022, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037 "2022-02-24T08:30:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 467
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9389 "2022-10-09T17:53:00Z")
Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9390 "2022-10-09T18:02:54Z")
This is definitely a blow to Putin’s гонады (nads). The wounded bear is shouting for revenge without any proof Ukraine is behind the attack. But, Ukraine has endured almost daily barrages of missiles all across their country since Feb 24. That takes away _some_ of the trepidation at fighting back. Same thing happened during the London Blitz. It did not break the desire to resist and fight. I can only hope the recent shipments of anti-missile defense systems are in place and operational. Ukraine’s largest cities have to be protected. Large dams also need similar defenses to protect against deliberate flooding. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9391 "2022-10-09T18:04:31Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > I suspect the bomb was timed to meet the rail cars knowing they contain fuel and all the sparks in the smoke (which are substantial) are some form of incendiary device designed to ignite the ruptured fuel tanks. That is one of the theories going around. It’s going to be very interesting to eventually find out how they did it. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9392 "2022-10-09T18:17:19Z")
The head of a terrorist organisation has described the Crimean Bridge attack as an “act of terrorism”. > **[Crimea bridge: Putin accuses Ukraine of 'terrorism'](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-63195504)** > > Vladimir Putin accuses Ukraine of attacking the bridge to Crimea, saying it was an "act of terrorism". (Legit, not an Onion article), ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9393 "2022-10-09T18:23:09Z")
Well, Putin is probably shitting his pants, so, terror accomplished, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9394 "2022-10-09T18:45:27Z")
Feel the burn. 🙂 Nicely stated John Kirby. > [@](#): > > **Reuters reports that the White House said it would continue to arm [Ukraine](https://www.theguardian.com/world/ukraine) but declined direct comment on an explosion that damaged Russia’s road-and-rail bridge to Crimea.** National security spokesman John Kirby told ABC’s This Week programme: “We don’t really have anything more to add to the reports about the explosion on the bridge. _What I can tell you is that Mr Putin started this war, and Mr Putin could end it today, simply by moving his troops out of the country.”_ ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9395 "2022-10-09T18:56:04Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > The head of a terrorist organisation has described the Crimean Bridge attack as an “act of terrorism”. Right. The lack of an attack on a school, hospital, apartment building or other strategic target is duly noted. ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9396 "2022-10-09T19:37:58Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > I doubt that’s easy in practice. You need to escape to surrender, and desertion presumably carries a death penalty. Surrendering can be a dangerous activity. Ukraine recognizes this and actually set up a surrender hotline for Russians to call. The operators give instructions on how to surrender and try to coordinate locations on the ground for individual or group surrenders to take place in as safe a manner as conditions permit. They’ve fielded thousands of calls so far. [Thousands of Russian Soldiers Calling ‘I Want to Live’ Hotline to Surrender (newsweek.com)](https://www.newsweek.com/thousands-russian-soldiers-calling-i-want-live-hotline-surrender-1748939) ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9397 "2022-10-09T19:53:56Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > That is one of the theories going around. It’s going to be very interesting to eventually find out how they did it. Yeah, there’s going to be some great “based on a true story” movies in a decade or so. I really want to find out what the truth is behind the pipeline explosions. It just has to be an attack, but I can’t for the life of me figure out who did it. Everyone who was capable of such an attack also seems to have good reasons to not carry it out, so who really did it, and why? > [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > The head of a terrorist organisation has described the Crimean Bridge attack as an “act of terrorism”. From that article: > According to Mr Bastrykin, investigators have established that the truck which they say blew up travelled through Bulgaria, Georgia, Armenia, North Ossetia and Krasnodar Territory. Go look on a map - they’re claiming that this truck took a route that essentially circled the entire Black Sea from Ukraine to the bridge. They only really skip Turkey in the list of countries, which seems suspicious as well. Does that route seem even remotely likely, or even possible? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9398 "2022-10-09T19:56:57Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > When asked for comment, the dolphins replied “Так долго и спасибо за все рыбы”. I think you want to use the genitive plural “рыб” there to at least be grammatically sensible. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9399 "2022-10-09T20:02:13Z")
**Just a reminder, this is an English board. So remember to post in English and not Russian.** ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9400 "2022-10-09T20:05:42Z")
I liked this part the best 🙂 "On Saturday, President Volodymyr Zelensky acknowledged the incident in his nightly address, saying: “Today was not a bad day and mostly sunny on our state’s territory.” “Unfortunately, it was cloudy in Crimea. Although it was also warm,” he added." ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9401 "2022-10-09T20:13:21Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > > [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > > > Maybe if the dolphins had frickin’ laser beams on their heads the bridge would still be intact. > > When asked for comment, the dolphins replied “Так долго и спасибо за все рыбы”. Well played! 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9402 "2022-10-09T20:13:35Z")
> [@TokyoBayer](#): > > That is one of the theories going around. It’s going to be very interesting to eventually find out how they did it. a train leaves station A at an average speed of 48km/h towards station B which is 87km away … at the same time there is another train leaving station B (on the same track) with an avg. speed of 66km/h … how far from station A will the trains collide? a.) 45km b.) 65km c.) 57km d.) none of the above seems Ukr. military should be doing well for university entrance tests 😉 ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9403 "2022-10-09T20:21:45Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Maybe if the dolphins had frickin’ laser beams on their heads the bridge would still be intact. Hmmm…Has anyone seen Dr Evil and Putin in the same room at the same time? 😱 > [@aceplace57](#): > > But, Ukraine has endured almost daily barrages of missiles all across their country since Feb 24. That takes away _some_ of the trepidation at fighting back. Yeah, I mean this is hypocrisy. > [@aceplace57](#): > > Nicely stated John Kirby. Putin might even be able to keep Crimea if he acts fast. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9404 "2022-10-09T20:31:06Z")
> [@Al128](#): > > a train leaves station A at an average speed of 48km/h towards station B which is 87km away … at the same time there is another train leaving station B (on the same track) with an avg. speed of 66km/h … how far from station A will the trains collide? > > a.) 45km > b.) 65km > c.) 57km > d.) none of the above d) None of the above. The other train was going the same direction as the first train! ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9405 "2022-10-09T20:35:57Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Go look on a map - they’re claiming that this truck took a route that essentially circled the entire Black Sea from Ukraine to the bridge. They only really skip Turkey in the list of countries, which seems suspicious as well. Does that route seem even remotely likely, or even possible? It’s ludicrous. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9406 "2022-10-09T21:03:24Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > > [@Al128](#): > > > > a train leaves station A at an average speed of 48km/h towards station B which is 87km away … at the same time there is another train leaving station B (on the same track) with an avg. speed of 66km/h … how far from station A will the trains collide? > > > > a.) 45km > > b.) 65km > > c.) 57km > > d.) none of the above > > d) None of the above. The other train was going the same direction as the first train! Even if train B was going towards station A, you could still say “none of the above” without even figuring out where they would collide. Train B is going faster than train A, so the collision point is going to be closer to station A than station B. The halfway point between the stations is 43.5 km from station A, so all the selections provided are closer to station B. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9407 "2022-10-09T21:32:10Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Go look on a map - they’re claiming that this truck took a route that essentially circled the entire Black Sea from Ukraine to the bridge. They only really skip Turkey in the list of countries, which seems suspicious as well. Does that route seem even remotely likely, or even possible? Yes, it seems possible. But how did a country that can’t track 1.5 million uniforms within it’s own boarders manage to track a truck through 7 countries? I can only imagine what their overdue library book situation looks like. ---
**Author:** ![Kedikat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kedikat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kedikat)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2022, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9408 "2022-10-09T21:44:40Z")
It seems obvious that Ukraine intelligence services created and conducted the operation. The driver seems to have been unaware. A fortuitous string of drop off and pickup of loads that brings a random vehicle ever closer to the target seems a good plan. Any one of the pickups could have been the bomb. No idea what log book requirements are in the regions. But a nice circuitous log of pickup and drop off points would look better than point A to point Boom. Also shrouds which pickup was Boom box. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037.md?page=466) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037.md?page=468)