# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news\ **Created:** [February 24, 2022, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037 "2022-02-24T08:30:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 470
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9449 "2022-10-10T16:39:52Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Does anyone anywhere believe Vlad’s bullshit claims? I believe his bullshit claims are intended solely for his internal Russian audience. He’s desperately holding onto power at this point, and needs to keep pumping the propaganda for the folks at home. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9450 "2022-10-10T16:41:09Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > And now Putin has decided that ramping up cruise missile and drone attacks against civilians will do the trick. Someone didn’t study history, did they? > **[Battle of Britain](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Britain)** > > Asia-Pacific > Mediterranean and Middle East > Other campaigns How does this translate into Ukranian? [![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6f/Keep-calm-and-carry-on-scan.jpg) ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6f/Keep-calm-and-carry-on-scan.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9451 "2022-10-10T16:42:42Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Does anyone anywhere believe Vlad’s bullshit claims? Yeah, it’s pretty much to the point that, if they were careful, Ukraine could do some heinous shit in Russia, leave some semi-plausible evidence, and claim it was false flag by Putin and have a pretty chance of being believed. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9452 "2022-10-10T16:44:52Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I believe his bullshit claims are intended solely for his internal Russian audience. He’s desperately holding onto power at this point, and needs to keep pumping the propaganda for the folks at home. Plus Tucker Carlson. Seriously, I can’t imagine they even believe it anymore. Unlike North Korea, they have open internet ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9453 "2022-10-10T17:05:49Z")
Split this topic on October 10, 2022, 5:05pm UTC 13 posts were split to a new topic: [Hijack of Ukraine Invasion Thread. Needs a home and a name](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hijack-of-ukraine-invasion-thread-needs-a-home-and-a-name/973021) ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9457 "2022-10-10T16:54:23Z")
> [@tofor](#): > > Zalenskyy looks visibly older and tireder than he did at the start of the war. He seems to be doing a stellar job in all aspects of running this war. Concur with both statements. I noticed the former, too - I mean, the man is holding up gracefully under unbelievable amounts of stress. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9460 "2022-10-10T16:55:05Z")
Like this: Зберігай спокій і продовжуй ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9463 "2022-10-10T16:56:39Z")
I wonder how nice that would look as a yellow poster with sky-blue lettering? (Or backwards, I’m not a graphics designer.) And no crown, since Ukraine is a republic. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9466 "2022-10-10T16:59:06Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Leaders in the -stans can do the math, and say, “wait a minute, here…” Now, now my Honourable King’s Counsel learned in the law. The -stans love Putin. Just like their fathers loved the USSR and their grandfathers the Tsar. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9470 "2022-10-10T17:02:01Z")
Closed on October 10, 2022, 5:02pm UTC ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9471 "2022-10-10T17:04:10Z")
This HIJACK ends now. Take it to a new thread if you want to debate whatever this is. No Warnings but seriously, stop it. This crap does not belong in this thread. You can probably find a dozen others for it. Most of it removed to [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hijack-of-ukraine-invasion-thread-needs-a-home-and-a-name/973021): ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9472 "2022-10-10T17:15:04Z")
Opened on October 10, 2022, 5:15pm UTC This topic was automatically opened after 9 minutes. ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9473 "2022-10-10T17:35:03Z")
withdrawn (moving over to hijack thread) ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9474 "2022-10-10T17:47:42Z")
Antony Blinken said, Todays attack on Ukraine’s cities is completely unacceptable. I believe the US has to supply Ukraine long range missiles. There would have to be restrictions on their use. They’re already in place for the HIMARS. MiGs need to be supplied too. Planes were a important morale booster during the Battle of Britain. Something has to be decided quickly. The US and NATO can’t just watch as Ukraine civilians die. Words alone won’t stop Russia. The Guardian > [@](#): > > US secretary of state, **Antony Blinken,** said the international community “has a responsibility” to make clear that Russian President **Vladimir Putin** ’s actions are “completely unacceptable”. > > In a statement, Blinken said Russia’s attacks on [Ukraine](https://www.theguardian.com/world/ukraine) present a “profound moral issue”. > > He said: > > > Now is the time to speak out in support for Ukraine; it is not the time for abstentions, placating words, or equivocations under claims of neutrality. The core principles of the UN Charter are at stake. > > Meanwhile, the US secretary of the army, **Christine Wormuth,** said Russian attacks on civilians in Ukraine were an “extension” of the kinds of “tactics” Putin has been using throughout the conflict with Ukraine. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9475 "2022-10-10T17:54:22Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Todays attack on Ukraine’s cities is completely unacceptable and I believe the US has to supply Ukraine long range missiles. > > There would have to be restrictions on their use. They’re already in place for the HIMARS. ATACMS today, hopefully PrSM tomorrow. In my dream world: America gives Ukraine JASSM-ER, TLAM-D, and the Dark Eagle 1,700-mile hypersonic missiles. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9476 "2022-10-10T18:00:45Z")
I’m slowly beginning to think Ukraine striking Air Bases inside Russia may be acceptable. That’s the only way to end a lot of these missle attacks. ---
**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9477 "2022-10-10T18:00:56Z")
> **post has been spoilered by puzzlegal, as it links to a very old article, not current news** > > Fire at the Ostankino TV tower in Moscow: > > [Fire in Massive Moscow TV Tower - ABC News](https://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/story?id=82780&page=1) > > Definitely, smoking workers are going to be a pain in the altogether for Russia, at this rate… ---
**Author:** ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9478 "2022-10-10T18:12:06Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I’m slowly beginning to think Ukraine striking Air Bases inside Russia may be acceptable. That would have been acceptable from day 1. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9479 "2022-10-10T18:26:16Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > In my dream world: America gives Ukraine JASSM-ER, TLAM-D, and the Dark Eagle 1,700-mile hypersonic missiles. Look you might as well just call the FSB guy in Washington and share the plans with him. Every weapon used against an enemy is one which drastically increases the chances that the enemy will get hold of a fully functional working one. HIMARS and ATACMS are old tech. The others, especially the Dark Eagle are cutting edge stuff. ---
**Author:** ![txtumbleweed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@txtumbleweed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/txtumbleweed)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2022, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9480 "2022-10-10T18:27:51Z")
> [@JoseB](#): > > Fire at the Ostankino TV tower in Moscow: > > [Fire in Massive Moscow TV Tower - ABC News](https://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/story?id=82780&page=1) > > Definitely, smoking workers are going to be a pain in the altogether for Russia, at this rate… That article is dated Jan 2006 and the byline itself is from 2000. I don’t believe that is current information. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037.md?page=469) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037.md?page=471)