# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news\ **Created:** [February 24, 2022, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037 "2022-02-24T08:30:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 499
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/10052 "2022-10-26T20:36:51Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > So, they were applying a I assume it was the people that wanted to rejoin, but the corrupt neo-Nazi politicians were preventing it. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2022, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/10053 "2022-10-26T21:39:06Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > I assume it was the people that wanted to rejoin, but the corrupt neo-Nazi politicians were preventing it. Well now they’re fighting Satanists. Putin’s next group is going to be the lizard people from outer space. This guy is seriously deranged. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/10054 "2022-10-27T03:25:13Z")
6 posts were merged into an existing topic: [In defence of Russia](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-defence-of-russia/969166/394) ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/10055 "2022-10-27T13:27:56Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > Putin’s next group is going to be the lizard people from outer space. Why didn’t he just go there first, when they were just getting a claw hold? Now they’re going be much harder to scrape off the wall. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/10056 "2022-10-27T13:36:50Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > Well now they’re fighting Satanists. It’s official. > ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/10057 "2022-10-27T13:39:02Z")
> [@Machine\_Elf](#): > > I’m guessing altered air flow due to high angle of attack; he pulled up pretty sharply right before ejection. Sounds plausible to this landlubber. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/10058 "2022-10-27T13:56:20Z")
Nano-drones: > [![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ff1vV86XkAAWX8G?format=jpg&name=medium) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ff1vV86XkAAWX8G?format=jpg&name=medium) ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/10059 "2022-10-27T14:01:01Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > [https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1584553719311798272](https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1584553719311798272) I know very little about drones-how would those be used by Ukraine? ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/10060 "2022-10-27T14:08:41Z")
Reconnaissance, to see behind obstacles and so on. ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/10061 "2022-10-27T14:17:52Z")
They’d be great for urban environments. See what’s around corners, behind structures or perched on rooftops. Probably just in time for the house to house, building to building fighting that awaits in Kherson city. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/10062 "2022-10-27T14:21:26Z")
That includes precisely locating the enemy while in combat. There are videos of trench warfare with the Ukrainian and Russian soldiers only ten meters apart. An overhead drone can provide a bird’s eye view to the soldiers on the ground, allowing them to throw grenades at the enemy more precisely. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/10063 "2022-10-27T14:24:56Z")
They can also enter and explore buildings, so long as they don’t encounter a closed door or window. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/10064 "2022-10-27T15:24:31Z")
Or a guy with a tennis racket. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/10065 "2022-10-27T15:40:02Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > They can also enter and explore buildings, so long as they don’t encounter a closed door or window. That’s the great part of urban combat though, there’s not many intact windows. And not so many doors, either. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/10066 "2022-10-27T18:15:25Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Or a guy with a tennis racket. Who needs a guy? [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/8i-oXPYRelo/hqdefault.jpg "Chimp Knocks Drone Out Of The Sky With Stick") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i-oXPYRelo) ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/10067 "2022-10-27T19:30:46Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > > [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > > > [https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1584553719311798272](https://twitter.com/TpyxaNews/status/1584553719311798272) > > I know very little about drones-how would those be used by Ukraine? > [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > Reconnaissance, to see behind obstacles and so on. A drone that small can also easily fly _inside_ a building, which might be useful for examining structures for boody-traps at minimal risks to humans. Among other things. ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2022, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/10068 "2022-10-28T13:00:29Z")
Five weeks after Putin announces a ‘partial mobilization’, we begin to get a clearer picture of results on the ground. [Russian Losses Fueled by New Units Untrained in ‘Basic’ Weaponry: Ukraine (msn.com)](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-losses-fueled-by-new-units-untrained-in-basic-weaponry-ukraine/ar-AA13rTjF?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=8992f5adba5d45b58a2f986297aa7aef) An online search shows lots of anecdotal evidence that training of newly mobilized Rus. troops to date has been disastrous. I’m wondering if the world is missing out on substantial amounts of _proper or appropriate_ training that’s going on? Those stories wouldn’t make for interesting news, but it doesn’t mean it isn’t happening. Are the plentiful tales of all the unsuitable inductees and horrible training conditions news because they focus on exceptional newsworthy disasters, or taken in the aggregate does it paint a picture of what’s generally going on in Russia? ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2022, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/10069 "2022-10-28T13:30:23Z")
Perhaps Putin ascribes to spray and pray automatic weapon fire methodology? Except Russian forces are poorly supplied. The Russian NCO’s must be furious at the daily screw ups by under trained troops and unmotivated soldiers. Tanks running over equipment or wandering into mine fields. Supply Trucks dying on the road because someone drained the oil. It’s has to be a shit show that mobilization made worse. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2022, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/10070 "2022-10-28T14:13:32Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Russian NCO’s I have to wonder how many of these there are by now. Contract troops, who were the majority of the skilled NCO corps, were the first into the meat grinder. It’s possible that conscript privates are being led by untrained conscript corporals and by green lieutenants. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2022, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/10071 "2022-10-28T15:07:23Z")
Have y’all seen [this article](https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/ukraine-crisis-russia-base?fbclid=IwAR2F6QYegmLUhASlosfI1KOzatz1Dufdpe0pSOKtUJxbRj_0yatV0HaLJ3w)? Reuters got access to an abandoned Russian base and the thousands of documents left behind, and here’s their special report on what they learned. I’m just getting into it now, but it makes for fascinating and horrifying reading. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037.md?page=498) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037.md?page=500)