# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news\
**Created:** [October 29, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972 "2022-10-29T17:49:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/2472 "2023-02-25T02:04:02Z")

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You guys aren’t thinking like a proper Russian Air Force General. Training is very expensive, which is why you have requested a large sum of money to keep your pilots at peak readiness. Also, you have filed a lovely report on your latest training exercises with your superiors, which indicates everything with your air wing is excellent. Pilots very skilled. Planes in tip top condition. Lovely pictures of the airmen lined up in front of a nicely posed Sukhoi. No one needs to know that you diverted most of the funds for training to an offshore account, your pilots have almost no flight hours, and half your planes aren’t airworthy.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/2473 "2023-02-25T02:45:32Z")

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Friday aid package. Not a draw against stocks but purchase on Ukrainian grant/loan monies.

- Additional ammunition for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS)
- Additional 155mm artillery rounds
- Munitions for laser-guided rocket systems
- CyberLux K8 UAS
- Switchblade 600 UAS
- Altius-600 UAS
- Jump 20 UAS
- Counter-UAS and electronic warfare detection equipment
- Mine clearing equipment
- Secure communications support equipment
- Funding for training, maintenance, and sustainment

Big change is addition of longer range/endurance UAV and drones.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/2474 "2023-02-25T03:21:50Z")

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Poland delivered first four of 14 Leopard 2 tanks today. An additional 60 PT-91Twardy tanks to be delivered in coming weeks (highly upgraded T-72, better than equivalent Russian). Sweden, Germany, and Spain also increased qty. of Leopards. First four from Canada arrived UK for training and on to Ukr.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/2475 "2023-02-25T03:31:07Z")

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> [@mordecaiB](#):
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> The signals all just say one letter over and over.

_И_ ?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/2476 "2023-02-25T05:39:11Z")

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‘And’?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/2477 "2023-02-25T06:48:36Z")

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The comment was “one letter”. The sound of «и» is like “eeee” (in Russian – in Ukrainian it has a somewhat different sound), so that seemed like the one letter that would fit.

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**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/2478 "2023-02-25T08:39:50Z")

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Sweden has just announced the donation of 10 Leopard 2 A5 main battle tanks and 50 CV90 fighting vehicles. They have also said they are donating several hundred million euros worth of HAWK anti-aircraft systems with ammunition which can take out aircraft, helicopters and missiles.

Meanwhile Zelensky says he wants to meet President Xi in person to discuss China’s peace proposals (but I’ve no doubt he has a long list of other things to discuss). Clever boy.

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**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/2479 "2023-02-25T09:36:13Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> An additional 60 PT-91Twardy tanks to be delivered in coming weeks (highly upgraded T-72, better than equivalent Russian)

That’s quite an upgrade. Stabilized gun and reactive armor. All produced locally.

> **[PT-91 Twardy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PT-91_Twardy)**
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> The PT-91 Twardy (.mw-parser-output .IPA-label-small{font-size:85%}.mw-parser-output .references .IPA-label-small,.mw-parser-output .infobox .IPA-label-small,.mw-parser-output .navbox .IPA-label-small{font-size:100%}Polish pronunciation: \[ˈtfar.dɨ\], English: Hard) is a Polish main battle tank. A development of the T-72M1, it entered service in 1995. The PT-91 was designed at the OBRUM (Ośrodek Badawczo-Rozwojowy Urządzeń Mechanicznych, or Research and Development Centre for Mechanical Appliances)...

> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#):
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> Meanwhile Zelensky says he wants to meet President Xi in person to discuss China’s peace proposals (but I’ve no doubt he has a long list of other things to discuss). Clever boy.

Who wouldn’t want to listen in on that conversation? 🪰

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/2480 "2023-02-25T12:51:21Z")

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I would hope that over the course of a year all world leaders will have realized that Zelenskyy is _very_ smart and more than “just” an actor/comedian.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/2482 "2023-02-25T14:34:34Z")

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### Posted just now

### Joined 1 hour ago

Yes, I’m sure that opinion is entirely not fake Russian propaganda.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/2483 "2023-02-25T14:35:35Z")

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There’s a double negative there.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/2484 "2023-02-25T14:36:51Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> a double negative there

You misspelled “doubleplusungood”.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/2485 "2023-02-25T14:37:16Z")

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Darn spell checker!

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/2486 "2023-02-25T14:43:45Z")

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Please flag the trolls, don’t comment in thread. Obvious troll is gone now.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/2487 "2023-02-25T15:17:24Z")

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Google Translate says _И_ means the word ‘and’ in Russian. Now that you mention it, I remember that it is the first letter of Ива́н (Ivan - ‘John’).

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/2488 "2023-02-25T16:07:47Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Google Translate says _И_ means the word ‘and’ in Russian.

It’s also the letter Z tipped over by a road mine.

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**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/2489 "2023-02-25T16:59:53Z")

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It

> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> > [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> > Google Translate says _И_ means the word ‘and’ in Russian.
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> It’s also the letter Z tipped over by a road mine.

It’s an N in retreat.

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**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/2490 "2023-02-25T18:43:21Z")

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Russia shows how classy they are again by interrupting a minute of silence for Ukrainian victims of the war by insisting it include Russians also.

> **[Russia, Ukraine face off at UN with rival tributes to dead](https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-politics-united-nations-8475374038c51c33ac69e1ea89de8ef2)**
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> UNITED NATIONS (AP) — Russia and Ukraine faced off at the U.N. Security Council on Friday on the first anniversary of their war, with their confrontation even extending to dueling moments of silence for the dead.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/2491 "2023-02-25T20:09:49Z")

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[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/UQJA6QraqjM/hqdefault.jpg "Russia's UN ambassador interrupts moment of silence for Ukranian war victims") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQJA6QraqjM)

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**Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/2492 "2023-02-25T20:28:08Z")

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> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#):
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> Sweden has just announced the donation of 10 Leopard 2 A5 main battle tanks and 50 CV90 fighting vehicles. They have also said they are donating several hundred million euros worth of HAWK anti-aircraft systems with ammunition which can take out aircraft, helicopters and missiles.

I think they have realized that total Neutrality wont work anymore, and that they are on Putins shopping list.

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