# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news\
**Created:** [October 29, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972 "2022-10-29T17:49:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2023, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3440 "2023-04-08T02:18:02Z")

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> **off-topic mistake**
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> Well, I’m pissed off.
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> My insurance company offers a $100 reward for a biometric screening ever year. So I scheduled a routine exam plus a biometric screening. My PCP only requested the blood draw for the routine exam. So they didn’t have the blood work for the biometric screening. So they sent bloodwork form last July (which doesn’t count for this reward). So it looks like I’m out $100 of free money.
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> Why should I even keep up with my health?

Sorry. Wrong thread.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2023, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3441 "2023-04-08T14:16:01Z")

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Oryx count of visually-confirmed Russian vehicle and heavy weaponry losses passes 10,000 mark:

> <https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1644659476249686016>

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2023, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3442 "2023-04-08T15:14:59Z")

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I wonder how many of the 2834 captured can be functional?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2023, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3443 "2023-04-08T15:24:29Z")

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Given that other categories include “destroyed” and “damaged”, I assume that “captured” is just the ones that are still functional.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2023, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3444 "2023-04-08T15:27:05Z")

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Those damn farmers.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2023, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3445 "2023-04-08T15:38:08Z")

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Oryx has no inside information. They’re just going on publicly available videos and photographs. Captured simply means evidence of the unit being presented in the video as captured by Ukrainian forces or simply being towed away. Neither of those entails the unit in question is operable. Inoperable captured vehicles can retain value as a source of parts even if they’re beyond viable repair.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3446 "2023-04-09T01:36:28Z")

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And regardless of the definition of terms, 10k vehicles lost to the opposing force is a pretty telling statistic. Russia appears to be…not handling this conflict well operationally (to put it mildly).

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3447 "2023-04-09T10:41:25Z")

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Happy news: [Some of the Ukrainian children that were taken by Russia have been returned to their parents.](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/4/8/ukraine-children-returned-from-russia-after-alleged-deportation)

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3448 "2023-04-09T15:14:10Z")

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Yes, happy news, but there are thousands more who’ve disappeared into Russia and may never make it back.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3449 "2023-04-09T17:25:07Z")

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How did Save Ukraine get the children away from the Russians?

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3450 "2023-04-09T17:46:06Z")

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Are you suggesting skullduggery?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3451 "2023-04-09T17:59:38Z")

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No, but it seems unusual that the Russians would go to the trouble to remove the children to Russian or Crimea and then let someone talk them out of keeping them.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3452 "2023-04-09T18:13:36Z")

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Maybe these are kids that didn’t seem to be responding well to their indoctrination, so might as well get rid of the potential troublemakers.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3453 "2023-04-09T19:00:54Z")

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Ah. Perhaps so, to fill out five characters.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3454 "2023-04-09T20:26:50Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Maybe these are kids that didn’t seem to be responding well to their indoctrination, so might as well get rid of the potential troublemakers.

> <https://twitter.com/saintjavelin/status/1643303627698720769>

According to Wikipedia, Lvova-Belova has 23 children (5 biological, 18 adopted). At what point does the number of children start to become a bit sinister?

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3455 "2023-04-09T21:15:17Z")

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Has it occured to her that the behavior has nothing to do with how Ukrainian children are raised, but instead has to do with this particular Ukrainian child having considerable reason to be pissed off at Russians?

(Although I suspect that even if it has occured to her, she’s not going to admit it.)

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2023, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3456 "2023-04-09T22:29:30Z")

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_I saw it happen once, so it must be going on all the time_. Some adults just need to grow up.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3457 "2023-04-10T09:27:33Z")

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Needlessly patroling that long border will be a expensive consequence of Putin’s war.

> [@](#):
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> # Russia ‘to increase air defences to counter Finland’s Nato accession’
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> **Russia plans to increase air defences over its north-western b**  **order to counter Finland’s accession to Nato,** a commander in its aerospace forces has said, Reuters reports.
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> Lt Gen Andrei Demin, the deputy commander-in-chief of aerospace forces, also said **further reforms of Russian air defences were “undoubtedly planned and will be implemented”.**

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3458 "2023-04-10T11:09:11Z")

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And the Ukrainian kids having already been through a lot?

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3459 "2023-04-10T12:33:05Z")

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No, the way to get rid of troublesome prisoners is to put a rusty rifle in their hands and send them to the front.

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