# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news\
**Created:** [October 29, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972 "2022-10-29T17:49:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3460 "2023-04-10T15:00:56Z")

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I don’t think Russia is drafting ten-year-olds.

Yet.

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**Author:** ![txtumbleweed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@txtumbleweed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/txtumbleweed)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3461 "2023-04-10T18:02:11Z")

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Dmitry Medvedev releases a nice rant to appeal to populists across the spectrum. Nobody cares what happens to Ukraine and Ukraine will be allowed to disappear.

While I enjoyed the “unterukraine” riffs as an old classic, I did appreciate the new “They’s Nazis, too” tune “that even the snobby, insolent Polacks don’t take for a valid country, and time and again toss in the issue of its western areas anschluss.”

> <https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1644669039095037953>

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3462 "2023-04-10T18:52:29Z")

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A great way to avoid all this is to leave Ukraine alone, Dmitry.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3463 "2023-04-10T20:09:40Z")

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Nobody needs Dmitry. Will _he_ disappear?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3464 "2023-04-10T20:22:13Z")

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As mentioned on Twitter, he probably isn’t standing near any windows.

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2023, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3465 "2023-04-10T22:30:41Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Nobody needs Dmitry. Will _he_ disappear?

I expect Medvedev is Putin’s mouthpiece. He may say some outrageous things, but that’s just Putin testing the waters. I don’t think he’ll defenestrate unless he starts saying things Putin didn’t approve of beforehand.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3466 "2023-04-11T00:36:00Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> I don’t think he’ll defenestrate unless he starts saying things Putin didn’t approve of beforehand.

But that’s a moving target these days. I mean, he could say he hates Mondays and Putin could be all “Monday is my favorite day! Out the window with him.” and I don’t think anybody (including Medvedev) would be all that surprised. Putin is unpredictable at this point.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3467 "2023-04-11T00:56:05Z")

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Now wait a minute. Grammar critic.  
Putin, or his minion, say, Boris Badenov, throws say, for matters of discussion, Rocky the Flying Squirrel, out the window. Boris defenestrates Rocky in the present tense. Rocky is defenstrated.  
My spell checker is going squirrely. But I digress.

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3468 "2023-04-11T02:22:36Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Now wait a minute. Grammar critic.

Would you believe I was using the future pluperfect subjunctive tense there?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3469 "2023-04-11T02:26:48Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> At what point does the number of children start to become a bit sinister?

When she starts making them into coats.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3470 "2023-04-11T02:28:59Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Has it occured to her that the behavior has nothing to do with how Ukrainian children are raised, but instead has to do with this particular Ukrainian child having considerable reason to be pissed off at Russians?

Has it occurred to her that she did not “adopt” this child, and that it was kidnapped in a war zone and shipped to a house of horrors against it’s will? That she is a monster who is holding kidnapped children hostage?

No, of course not.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3471 "2023-04-11T14:13:38Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> I expect Medvedev is Putin’s mouthpiece

[![](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/lotr/images/f/f2/Mouth_of_Sauron.png/) ](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/lotr/images/f/f2/Mouth_of_Sauron.png/)

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**Author:** ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3472 "2023-04-11T18:52:12Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> [https://twitter.com/saintjavelin/status/1643303627698720769](https://twitter.com/saintjavelin/status/1643303627698720769)

Thousands were taken, 17 returned. They probably allowed a few to return for propaganda purposes: “See? We care about the children.”

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3473 "2023-04-12T05:04:17Z")

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British troops give departing Ukrainian trainees a guard of honour:

> <https://twitter.com/front_ukrainian/status/1645730797087776768>

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3474 "2023-04-12T05:25:29Z")

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Another photo has surfaced of a severed head impaled on spike, allegedly by Wagner in Bakhmut. There’s also reportedly video of Russian soldiers decapitating a live Ukrainian prisoner.

Today’s Russia is like ISIS.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3475 "2023-04-12T11:08:26Z")

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Russia [is going to have a digital draft](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/4/12/russia-eyes-digital-draft-as-ukraine-war-losses-mount), where as soon as the message is sent it is considered to be received by the individual. Just throwing everyone into the machine, then?

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3476 "2023-04-12T14:06:43Z")

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There’s nothing “reported” or “alleged” about this one. Do not go looking for the video. I had a heavily blurred and muted version autoplay in my Twitter feed and it was plenty disturbing even though you could barely make out what was going on. The unblurred video will be horrific beyond description.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3477 "2023-04-12T14:36:52Z")

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There’s another video. Won’t link to the tweet, as it includes the video, but WarTranslated comments:

> [@](#):
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> A video circulating in Russian channels with a Ukrainian M113 which allegedly drove on a mine. Wouldn’t have posted it otherwise, but the Russian soldier filming is saying that the bodies of fallen soldiers were stripped of boots but also beheaded, and their arms were removed as well… I won’t be translating this but the man is approving of these actions.

So three decapitation-related bits of news this week.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3478 "2023-04-12T14:45:50Z")

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CNN article:

> **[Zelensky slams 'beasts' who purportedly beheaded Ukrainian soldiers after...](https://us.cnn.com/2023/04/11/europe/beheading-videos-ukraine-intl-hnk-ml/index.html)**
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> Two videos have emerged on social media in the past week which purport to show the beheading of Ukrainian soldiers.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3479 "2023-04-12T15:11:28Z")

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Also, the Russian who gained notoriety last year by taking to the stage in Moscow with the skull of a Ukrainian soldier got his comeuppance by getting killed in action.

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