# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news\ **Created:** [October 29, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972 "2022-10-29T17:49:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 177
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3580 "2023-04-21T14:38:39Z")
The video of the bomb falling and then detonating several seconds later is all over Telegram. Or at least, it’s all over Twitter, and these sorts of videos on Twitter are almost always reposts from Telegram. Whilst the Russian government’s ability to lie with a straight face should never be underestimated, denying that a bomb fell at all was not going to be a great PR strategy. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3581 "2023-04-21T14:39:21Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > It was an “abnormal descent of aviation ammunition” [according to Tass via UPI](https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2023/04/20/russian-military-plane-accidentally-bombs-own-city/8631682048586/) Article says: > “four apartments in a building on Shalandina Street were destroyed” and “… the explosion … had a blast radius of about 20 meters”. I’m curious how what is being represented as a crate of ammunition can “explode” when it falls out of a plane, let alone do so much damage. They’d have been better off blaming yet another careless Russian smoker amidst some of their fiercely explosive urban infrastructure. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3582 "2023-04-21T14:44:18Z")
Don’t think it was a crate. More likely a large conventional bomb, probably intended to hit Kharkiv using the Russian JDAM copy but the wings failed or something. Munition lands at 0:10 and detonates at 0:29 > ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3583 "2023-04-21T14:49:50Z")
Best guess by bigger experts than I say it was about right for a 500kg bomb with a short delay fuse so it could burrow. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3584 "2023-04-21T14:51:47Z")
I see the impact and the explosion, but I couldn’t see the actual bomb. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3585 "2023-04-21T15:03:11Z")
My sympathies are for the dude in the white car that got lifted and tossed across the street by the explosion. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3586 "2023-04-21T15:06:19Z")
My thoughts exactly. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3587 "2023-04-21T15:11:24Z")
It was probably traveling rather quickly if it were able to burrow. I thought the initial smoke was someone falling out a window. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3588 "2023-04-21T17:33:48Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Gas line burst They tried that when the first V2 rockets landed on London. That story lasted for about 2 weeks, IIRC ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3589 "2023-04-21T17:44:15Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Best guess by bigger experts than I say it was about right for a 500kg bomb I’m certainly no expert but thought that that size bomb would have a MUCH bigger badda BOOM. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3590 "2023-04-21T17:50:02Z")
What is the advantage of a bomb burrowing, other than hitting the folks in the basement? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3591 "2023-04-21T17:54:15Z")
Only way to take out a hardened bunker. Also good for cratering runways, trashing railroads, destroying foundations, etc. The one dropped wasn’t nearly big enough, but with a very large burrowing bomb, you can create a [camouflet](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camouflet). Those are really fun. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3592 "2023-04-21T19:02:28Z")
If this was indeed a 500Kg bomb, it was probably this. > **[High-explosive bomb FAB-500 M-62 | Catalog Rosoboronexport](http://roe.ru/eng/catalog/aerospace-systems/air-bombs/fab-500-m-62/)** > > The FAB-500 M-62 high-explosive bomb is designed to destroy military industrial facilities, railway junctions, light armored and soft-skin targets, manpower, military field fortifications That has a 300Kg load of high explosive. (The remaining weight is the iron fragmentation body and the other hardware.) Still, 300Kg detonating at an unknown depth… might not look as impressive but would still move a lot of earth. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3593 "2023-04-21T22:06:25Z")
How the heck do you leave a 20-meter crater in a city, and only injure two people? ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3594 "2023-04-21T22:08:09Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > What is the advantage of a bomb burrowing, other than hitting the folks in the basement? It’s much harder to repair a road or runway when there’s a gigantic crater (caused by a burrowing bomb) instead of just a bit of cracked pavement. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2023, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3595 "2023-04-22T01:52:35Z")
My first thought is, “the hell does that have to do with bombing a city?”, but the pilot bombed the wrong place. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2023, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3596 "2023-04-22T06:27:18Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > How the heck do you leave a 20-meter crater in a city, and only injure two people? Hit a park or other open space after dark. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2023, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3597 "2023-04-22T13:38:17Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > My first thought is, “the hell does that have to do with bombing a city?”, but the pilot bombed the wrong place. “What’s this red button do? … Oh.” ---
**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2023, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3598 "2023-04-22T15:25:55Z")
Maybe a month or so ago it was noted that Ukraine’s fighters were being modified to drop JDAMs. Any evidence that they are being used? ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2023, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3599 "2023-04-22T17:02:50Z")
I’m surprised any of these Wagner fighters survived the battlefield and made it home this quickly. Of course they continued their thuggery and are a concern for local police. > **[Murder, ‘alcohol and prostitutes’: Wagner convicts pardoned by Putin return...](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/apr/22/alcohol-and-prostitutes-wagner-convicts-pardoned-by-putin-return-to-terrorise-home-towns)** > > Violent criminals who served with the notorious Russian militia in Ukraine are terrorising the communities they return to > [@](#): > > News of Rossomakhin’s return deeply unsettled Novyj Burets’ modest community of a few hundred people and led to a town hall meeting, which was filmed by a local TV channel. > > During the meeting, police chief Vadim Varankin promised that the “problematic troublemaker” Rossomakhin would be taken away from the town on 28 March. > But a day later, on 29 March, Rossomakhin entered the wooden house of Buiskich, where he is believed to have killed her with an axe. > > “The state and personally Putin and Prigozhin are to blame for Yulia’s death and should answer for it,” said a close relative of Buiskich, speaking under condition of anonymity. > > “They released a sick bastard into society.” > > The relative described Buiskich as a “very active and cheerful person, full of life”. > > “At 85, she was so fond of travelling, she often travelled hundreds of miles to visit her friends and family,” the relative said. > > “She had so much joy in her life, enough for another 10 years.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972.md?page=176) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972.md?page=178)