# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news\ **Created:** [October 29, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972 "2022-10-29T17:49:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 191
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3889 "2023-05-09T07:23:53Z")
IIRC, in WW2 reconnaissance/photographic Spitfires were painted pink to make them less discernible from below. > **[Why were some Spitfires pink?](https://www.quora.com/Why-were-some-Spitfires-pink)** > > Answer (1 of 5): They were photo reconnaissance versions. Pink is a great camouflage colour at dawn and dusk, when the sun is low, when many of the missions were undertaken. > > PR Spitfires were mostly unarmed and had wing fuel tanks in place of guns.... ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3890 "2023-05-09T11:16:07Z")
At the Victory Day parade Putin "says civilization is at a “decisive turning point” and that [“real war has been unleashed”](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/5/9/flanked-by-leaders-of-ex-soviet-allies-putin-blasts-the-west) against Russia. And Transnistria wants more Russian peacekeepers. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3891 "2023-05-09T11:54:06Z")
Too late to edit my previous post: I think the Ukraine part of the war isn’t going well, so Putin is trying to pull in fear of the West as a boogeyman to supercharge his effort. A Bigger Bad-perhaps this adds credence to the Kremlin drone being a false flag? ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3892 "2023-05-09T13:02:47Z")
It turns out there was only one tank at the Victory Day parade. A T-34 that was dragged out from a museum. > **[Putin mocked after single tank turns up for Russian Victory Day parade](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/tank-putin-russia-victory-day-b2335411.html)** > > No aviation took part in the military spectacle I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s next stop is to the front lines rather than being returned to it’s museum. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3893 "2023-05-09T13:44:20Z")
If it gets captured by Ukraine I want them to hold another parade with it mocking Putin. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3894 "2023-05-09T14:38:07Z")
Wait a second, that was legit? I saw that and just assumed it was some parody site manufacturing some trolling news for funnies. ---
**Author:** ![Capn\_Carl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Capn\_Carl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capn_Carl)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3895 "2023-05-09T14:38:46Z")
I’d love to watch that parade, in Kiev. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3896 "2023-05-09T15:11:05Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > Wait a second, that was legit? > > I saw that and just assumed it was some parody site manufacturing some trolling news for funnies. Apparently so. Although according to the article that particular T-34 gets used every year as the lead tank. What was different this year wasn’t that they used the T-34, it’s that they didn’t have any other tanks following it. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3897 "2023-05-09T16:37:16Z")
> [@FlikTheBlue](#): > > they didn’t have any other tanks following it. If that isn’t completely emblematic of Russia (and Putin in particular) in this whole disaster: one outdated warhorse chasing the delusions of past glories and no one left to follow him. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3898 "2023-05-09T16:50:57Z")
> > > The New Voice of Ukraine @NewVoiceUkraine ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3899 "2023-05-09T17:09:20Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > At the Victory Day parade Putin "says civilization is at a “decisive turning point” and that [“real war has been unleashed”](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/5/9/flanked-by-leaders-of-ex-soviet-allies-putin-blasts-the-west) against Russia Gosh. I wonder why. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3900 "2023-05-09T18:57:46Z")
> [@FlikTheBlue](#): > > It turns out there was only one tank at the Victory Day parade. A T-34 that was dragged out from a museum. Oh really? That is hilarious. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3901 "2023-05-09T22:02:58Z")
Israeli equipment should be effective. Their Iron Dome has a solid reputation. Guardian blog > [@](#): > > **Ukraine has received Israeli-made radar defence systems, which have already been deployed in Kyiv as of Monday, according to Israeli media reports.** A Lithuanian volunteer organisation known as Blue/Yellow delivered 16 ieMHR models made by Israel’s Rada Electronic Industries last week and three are already in use in the Ukrainian capital, the Israeli daily Haaretz said. The systems are designed to detect aerial threats including missiles, rockets, mortar shells, helicopters and drones within up to a 6.2-mile (10km) radius. Military targets in Crimea are legitimate. Ukraine needs these missiles. > **[British-led coalition hopes to supply longer-range missiles to Ukraine](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/09/british-led-coalition-hoping-to-supply-longer-range-missiles-to-ukraine)** > > UK opens tender for rockets akin to those denied by US, which could enable strikes deep into Crimea ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3902 "2023-05-09T22:28:30Z")
What, no mention yet that one of Russia’s “unstoppable” hypersonic missiles was, in fact, stopped? > **[Ukraine says its newly fielded U.S. Patriot system downed a Russian...](https://www.npr.org/2023/05/06/1174505616/ukraine-patriot-defense-russian-hypersonic-missile-kinzhal)** > > The Russian Kinzhal was intercepted during an air strike over Kyiv earlier this week, a Ukrainian official said. It is the first known time the sophisticated Russian missile has been shot down. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2023, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3903 "2023-05-09T22:29:59Z")
[Post 3854](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3854) ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3904 "2023-05-10T03:22:39Z")
I’ve seen many reports claiming Putin is in poor health. Putin walked unassisted at the Victory Day celebrations. Alexander Lukashenko needed a ride and he left early. It appears Putin will continue this war for some time. He didn’t appear to be in bad health. Link [https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-05-09/belarus-leader-lukashenko-avoids-stroll-skips-lunch-after-moscow-parade](https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-05-09/belarus-leader-lukashenko-avoids-stroll-skips-lunch-after-moscow-parade) > [@](#): > > Belarusian leader Alexander Lukashenko had to be driven a short distance to an event during Tuesday’s Victory Day celebrations in Moscow and skipped a lunch hosted by Russian President Vladimir Putin. > > Lukashenko, a close Putin ally, looked tired and a little unsteady on his feet, and a bandage was visible on his right hand. His appearance sparked speculation online about his health, though he otherwise showed no obvious sign of being unwell. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3905 "2023-05-10T11:53:06Z")
Not the biggest news, but [a French journalist named Arman Soldin was killed in Ukraine by a rocket attack](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/5/10/french-journalist-killed-in-rocket-attack-in-ukraine). Just another reminder that for all the crap the news media gets, there are still people out there doing dangerous work. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3906 "2023-05-10T12:11:10Z")
Russia’s 72nd motorized brigade has apparently either retreated from Bakhmut or been destroyed in action. Prigozhin is pissed off that the regular Russian forces “pissed away three square km this morning” in an area that around 500 Wagnerites died trying to secure. > **[Ukraine unit says Russian brigade flees Bakhmut outskirts](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-unit-says-russian-brigade-flees-bakhmut-outskirts-2023-05-10/)** > > A Ukrainian military unit said on Wednesday it had routed a Russian infantry brigade from territory near Bakhmut, claiming to confirm an account by the head of Russia's Wagner private army that the Russian forces had fled. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3907 "2023-05-10T12:41:43Z")
Prigozhin also claimed that he received an order that if he and his men retreat from Bakhmut, that they would be officially considered traitors (the word he used sounded to me like Judas). > **[Russian mercenary chief says he's been told to stay in Bakhmut or be branded...](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/head-russias-wagner-group-says-still-no-sign-promised-ammunition-2023-05-09/)** > > The head of Russia's Wagner mercenary force fighting in eastern Ukraine said on Tuesday he had been told he and his men would be regarded as traitors if they abandoned their positions in the city of Bakhmut. I didn’t realize Prigozhin was personally leading his troops from the front line in Bakhmut. Now it makes a lot more sense why Putin hasn’t taken any action against him. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2023, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/3908 "2023-05-10T13:19:01Z")
Denny take on the Russian retreat. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/uBWGSIQd-Co/maxresdefault.jpg "Update from Ukraine | Surprise Ukrainian Counterattack near Bakhmut") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBWGSIQd-Co) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972.md?page=190) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972.md?page=192)