# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news\
**Created:** [October 29, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972 "2022-10-29T17:49:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/381 "2022-11-09T00:39:55Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Mind you, Putin accidentally falling out a high window would simplify things a lot.

It wouldn’t be nearly as satisfying as accidentally falling from a window due to seizures from Polonium 210 poisoning and landing on a pile of mangled tank parts in the process of being melted down. And then being reincarnated as every single person who died as a result of his actions.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/382 "2022-11-09T02:11:51Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> That’s very resourceful, very cool, and very bad ass.

That would seem to sum up the entire Ukrainian war effort.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/383 "2022-11-09T04:13:59Z")

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The Guardian has eliminated their Ukraine section.  
There’s a War at a Glance link on the front page.

I know there’s been very little hard facts reported out of Ukraine.That’s how they want it. Denys Youtube channel is the best source for details on battles. He seems sincere but he’s still limited by his sources.

I’ve decided to create a Telegram account to follow Deny. There’s video he can’t post on YouTube.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/384 "2022-11-09T04:45:29Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> … then being reincarnated as every single person who died as a result of his actions

Being reincarnated as someone who is dead – how does _that_ work?

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/385 "2022-11-09T04:55:39Z")

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“The Egg” by Andy Weir has a kind of retroactive reincarnation.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/386 "2022-11-09T06:14:47Z")

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A big explosion happened to a Russian vehicle.

[https://twitter.com/Blue\_Sauron/status/1590197745562054659](https://twitter.com/Blue_Sauron/status/1590197745562054659)

The UR-77 Meteorit is a Soviet mine clearing vehicle.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/387 "2022-11-09T06:21:46Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> [https://twitter.com/Blue\_Sauron/status/1590197745562054659](https://twitter.com/Blue_Sauron/status/1590197745562054659)

Yikes. From [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UR-77_Meteorit):

> The vehicle is armed with a launcher and two [mine-clearing line charges](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mine-clearing_line_charge). When launched, a charge causes a shock wave that destroys or disables all the shells or mines along the area of the line charge (with a width of 6 metres and length up to 90 metres).[[4]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UR-77_Meteorit#cite_note-RB1-4)

Something tells me that the clearing line charges might have cleared the wrong thing.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/388 "2022-11-09T08:37:57Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> A big explosion happened to a Russian vehicle.
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> [https://twitter.com/Blue\_Sauron/status/1590197745562054659](https://twitter.com/Blue_Sauron/status/1590197745562054659)
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> The UR-77 Meteorit is a Soviet mine clearing vehicle.

It certainly found _something_…

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**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/389 "2022-11-09T10:28:30Z")

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I can’t help but think about the psychological’s of the crews riding in vehicles behind that huge boooom …

limited to no visibility (of those who are not drivers) … etc…

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/390 "2022-11-09T12:31:10Z")

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> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> A big explosion happened to a Russian vehicle.

Wow, that’s gonna leave a mark. No, scratch that, from the video, it appears that there is nothing left, just completely **gone**.

I read that it uses explosives to clear mines. I wonder if the whole thing just cooked off due to the ineptness of the Russian military.

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**Author:** ![Chad\_Sudan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chad_sudan/32/4509_2.png) [@Chad\_Sudan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chad_Sudan)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/391 "2022-11-09T12:47:56Z")

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Even if these are mine-clearing vehicles, how is it, I wonder, that after such an explosion, the remaining vehicles, both ahead and behind… keep moving in the same direction?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/392 "2022-11-09T12:58:54Z")

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Well, the bomb/mine has already blown up, yes? Safest direction to go.

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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/393 "2022-11-09T13:15:24Z")

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I would swear that vehicle was _vaporized_. There was nothing left. No debris whatsoever visible afterwards. Probably the small remaining pieces were thrown hundreds of meters from the explosion.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/394 "2022-11-09T13:27:50Z")

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Is it just a coincidence that a drone was observing that particular stretch of the convoy at the time of the explosion?

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/395 "2022-11-09T13:43:23Z")

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> [@Cardigan](#):
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> I would swear that vehicle was _vaporized_. There was nothing left. No debris whatsoever visible afterwards. Probably the small remaining pieces were thrown hundreds of meters from the explosion.

The following vehicles just continued. Driving through where the mine clearing tank vanished in a huge explosion. I’m surprised there wasn’t a BIG hole in the ground. That’s what make me think maybe it just ‘cooked off’.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/396 "2022-11-09T13:55:44Z")

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“If you’re going through hell, keep going.”

This video has some extra footage from before, and it looks like the column is under artillery fire.

> <https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1590218781447839744>

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/397 "2022-11-09T13:58:58Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> Is it just a coincidence that a drone was observing that particular stretch of the convoy at the time of the explosion?

could just be routine intel on enemy troop movements that covered a spectacular explosion.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/398 "2022-11-09T14:02:51Z")

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If they were under fire from artillery, the drone was probably spotting for the battery. That vaporization might have been a direct hit on the mine-clearing vehicle.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/399 "2022-11-09T14:09:19Z")

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👀 Kherson.

> <https://twitter.com/IAPonomarenko/status/1590303678992637954>

> <https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1590330603836428289>

Lots of chatter. If it’s all a trap, the Russians are trying really hard to make it appear as if they’re leaving Kherson.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/400 "2022-11-09T14:19:34Z")

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Drones will be helpful in Scouting Kherson City.

Soldiers in civilian clothes and homes will be harder to determine.

They pulled the same trick in Crimea. A lot of muscular civilians with buzz cuts came in and claimed to be separatists.

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