# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news\ **Created:** [October 29, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972 "2022-10-29T17:49:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/401 "2022-11-09T14:30:10Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > Lots of chatter. If it’s all a trap, the Russians are trying really hard to make it appear as if they’re leaving Kherson. If they actually are blowing up bridges, that should be easy to confirm. And if that’s part of a “trap”, then the Russians have just become even more silly. You don’t go blowing up bridges in areas you expect to own in the near future. You blow up bridges you expect _the enemy_ to own in the near future. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/402 "2022-11-09T14:42:10Z")
Yeah, it seems like the bridges that were blown were ones on the approach to Kherson. Probably seen as something to slow the inevitable advance of Ukraine in the area. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/403 "2022-11-09T14:55:50Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > The UR-77 Meteorit is a Soviet mine clearing vehicle. It worked. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/404 "2022-11-09T15:22:46Z")
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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/405 "2022-11-09T15:33:13Z")
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**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/406 "2022-11-09T15:38:23Z")
I’m sure we’ll discover in short order the many ways Russians have managed to salt the fields. We already know about the rampant looting, but how many booby traps will have to be defused? ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/407 "2022-11-09T16:04:20Z")
Anyone remember the Highway of Death from the Gulf War? ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/408 "2022-11-09T16:10:50Z")
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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/409 "2022-11-09T16:50:43Z")
Russia still has a lot of heavy equipment (tanks, IFVs, AFCs, etc) on the wrong side of the Dnipro, and very few crossing points, all of which are in range of HIMARS. In addition to the humiliation of conceding a huge chunk of “Russian” territory, this could yet turn into a complete disaster of a retreat, and another bonanza of Russian Lend-Lease for the Ukrainian army. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/410 "2022-11-09T16:51:27Z")
> **[UPDATE 3-Russian-installed official in Ukraine's Kherson region dies in car...](https://news.yahoo.com/3-russian-installed-official-ukraines-133346224.html)** > > One of Russia's most prominent officials in Ukraine was killed in a car crash on Wednesday, a further blow to Moscow in the southern Kherson region amid an impending withdrawal of Russian forces. The death of Kirill Stremousov, deputy head of the... > “It is very hard for me to say that Kirill Stremousov died today. He died on the territory of the Kherson region, travelling in a car that got into an accident,” [Vladimir] Saldo, his boss, said. This is why you need to remain calm, and evacuate in an orderly fashion. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/411 "2022-11-09T16:55:22Z")
> [@Cardigan](#): > > I’m sure we’ll discover in short order the many ways Russians have managed to salt the fields. We already know about the rampant looting, but how many booby traps will have to be defused? [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/4F4qzPbcFiA/maxresdefault.jpg "Admiral Ackbar - "It's A Trap!"") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F4qzPbcFiA) ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/412 "2022-11-09T16:59:21Z")
> [@](#): > > Moment Surovikin and Shoygu admit defeat in the Kherson direction and announce the withdrawal of troops. > [https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1590368333727424512/video/1](https://t.co/10UZgVuIcm) Releasing this video looks to me like Defence Minister Shoigu is forcing General Surovikin to take responsibility, in light of all the critiques of Shoigu from the warhawks. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/413 "2022-11-09T17:08:29Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > "It is very hard for me to say that Kirill Stremousov died today. " A [loss to poetry](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9891). > [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Releasing this video looks to me like Defence Minister Shoigu is forcing General Surovikin to take responsibility, Or Putin is scapegoating Shoigu. Prigozhin will be happy. ---
**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/414 "2022-11-09T17:36:23Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Kirill Stremousov died today. travelling in a car that got into an accident,” . hmmm—I wonder why they didn’t announce that he fell out of a window? ---
**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/415 "2022-11-09T17:41:16Z")
While Russian-installed, it seems he criticized the Russian army and its leaders openly, too. Not very bright on his part. With so many other “accidents” happening, who is going believe this was just another? And it may well have been. Shit happens in a war zone. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/416 "2022-11-09T18:08:59Z")
> [@chappachula](#): > > I wonder why they didn’t announce that he fell out of a window? They didn’t mention the car went out a window. ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/417 "2022-11-09T18:12:47Z")
> [@Cardigan](#): > > I would swear that vehicle was _vaporized_. There was nothing left. No debris whatsoever visible afterwards. Probably the small remaining pieces were thrown hundreds of meters from the explosion. read on twitter that this type of vehicle carries 750kg of explosives … so that would explain a lot … ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/418 "2022-11-09T18:46:03Z")
> [@Cardigan](#): > > I’m sure we’ll discover in short order the many ways Russians have managed to salt the fields. We already know about the rampant looting, but how many booby traps will have to be defused? Is Russia still in control of the dam? ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/419 "2022-11-09T18:47:58Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > Russian **Lend-Lease** for the Ukrainian army. We really need to come up with a newer term for that, like abandon-donate. ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2022, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/420 "2022-11-09T18:50:49Z")
Yes. They’ve already got it rigged with explosives and are using it as a sort of ‘dead man’s switch’ with the tacit understanding that should Ukr. decide to target all their forces as they’re bottled up trying to cross the dam, they’ll blow it in a heartbeat… 50 thousand civilian deaths downstream be damned. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972.md?page=22)