# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news\ **Created:** [October 29, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972 "2022-10-29T17:49:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 221
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4500 "2023-06-14T12:26:29Z")
This incident in Kreminna, Luhansk region, appears to be unrelated to the strike on Kadyrov’s deputy, which apparently took place in Zaporizhzhia region: [https://twitter.com/Maks\_NAFO\_FELLA/status/1668900275061510144](https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1668900275061510144) [![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fykf9ISX0AELHJU?format=jpg&name=medium) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fykf9ISX0AELHJU?format=jpg&name=medium) ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4501 "2023-06-14T13:39:21Z")
They blew up an entire division? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4502 "2023-06-14T13:43:24Z")
I’m sorry, but all I can think of now is the Monty Python sketch “[How Not To Be Seen](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VokGd5zhGJ4)”. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4503 "2023-06-14T14:25:48Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > They blew up an entire division? Probably not a whole division, but we can hope. There’s rumors another Russian general has been killed, the second this week, in a HIMARS strike. According to Reuters, a Russian-backed official in Ukraine confirmed the death of the Russian general from two or three days ago: > **[Top Russian officer killed in Ukrainian counteroffensive, says Moscow-backed...](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/top-russian-officer-killed-ukrainian-counteroffensive-says-moscow-backed-2023-06-13/)** > > A top Russian officer has been killed in a Ukrainian missile strike during Kyiv's counteroffensive against Russian forces, a Russian-backed official in Ukraine said on Tuesday, offering his condolences. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4504 "2023-06-14T14:29:45Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > Probably not a whole division, but we can hope. Wait, I thought this were Ukrainians that got blown up. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4505 "2023-06-14T14:32:14Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Wait, I thought this were Ukrainians that got blown up. Nope, it’s the Ukrainians that have HIMARS MLRS. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4506 "2023-06-14T14:33:31Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > Nope, it’s the Ukrainians that have HIMARS MLRS. Oh, great! that whole “about to go on the offensive” part got me confused. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4507 "2023-06-14T15:14:56Z")
Latest US aid package. Drawdown of existing stocks. June 13, 2023. This authorization is the Biden Administration’s fortieth drawdown of equipment from DoD inventories for Ukraine since August 2021. It includes key capabilities to aid Ukraine’s efforts to retake its sovereign territory and support Ukraine’s air defenders as they bravely protect Ukraine’s soldiers, civilians, and critical infrastructure, as well as artillery, anti-armor systems, and ammunition valued at up to $325 million. The capabilities in this package include: - Additional munitions for National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile Systems (NASAMS); - Stinger anti-aircraft systems; - Additional ammunition for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS); - 155mm and 105mm artillery rounds; - 15 Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicles; - 10 Stryker Armored Personnel Carriers; - Javelin anti-armor systems; - Tube-Launched, Optically-Tracked, Wire-Guided (TOW) missiles; - AT-4 anti-armor systems; - Over 22 million rounds of small arms ammunition and grenades; - Demolition munitions for obstacle clearing; - Tactical secure communications support equipment; - Spare parts and other field equipment. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4508 "2023-06-14T15:39:56Z")
[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-admits-russia-doesn-t-have-enough-drones-warplanes-and-ammunition-for-the-war-in-ukraine-even-though-it-s-been-rushing-military-production-all-year/ar-AA1cvO64](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-admits-russia-doesn-t-have-enough-drones-warplanes-and-ammunition-for-the-war-in-ukraine-even-though-it-s-been-rushing-military-production-all-year/ar-AA1cvO64) > “During the special military operation, it became clear that many things were missing,” he told state media at a press conference. “These are high-precision ammunition, communications equipment, aircraft, drones, and so on.” > > “We have them. Unfortunately, we lack them quantitatively,” Putin added, per Russian news agency Interfax. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4509 "2023-06-14T15:47:14Z")
[Some criminals can now go fight in Ukraine, according to Russia’s parliament, and perhaps have their liability wiped.](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-parliament-is-expected-back-army-recruitment-criminals-ukraine-conflict-2023-06-14/#:~:text=June%2014%20(Reuters)%20%2D%20The,criminals%20to%20fight%20in%20Ukraine.) Lucky fellows! ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4510 "2023-06-14T17:41:07Z")
Well, once a Ukrainian drone drops a hand grenade in your dugout, you probably won’t be going back to prison. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4511 "2023-06-14T20:23:17Z")
Wagner recruited some 50K “soldiers” that way. This seems to be the government merely trying the same tactic themselves but 6 months too late after the “better” convict-recruits have already been taken. The fact Wagner is on the outs this week in Moscow can’t possibly be related, can it? Naah, I didn’t think so either. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4512 "2023-06-14T21:48:12Z")
Article on the counteroffensive and what lies ahead: > **[Ukraine’s Counteroffensive Begins: Shall the Leopards Break Free?](https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/ukraines-counteroffensive-begins-shall-leopards-break-free)** > > Ukrainian forces are making gains, but the offensive is some way from its decisive phase; we must refrain from premature pronouncements of success or failure. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4513 "2023-06-14T22:07:44Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Wait - is he asking the _Ukrainians_ to help find him? > > I’m sure they’ll get right on that. That’s normal for civilized countries in war, to try to find the identities of enemy casualties, and communicate that information to their next of kin. It might not be their top priority (you make sure to win the battle, first), but it’s definitely something they do eventually. And what’s with the irregular text in those tweets @Walken_After_Midnight quoted? The font size is all over the place, and the word balloons are crooked. It looks like it might be English translations overlaid on Russian originals, but why do it so sloppily? ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4514 "2023-06-14T22:17:33Z")
That’s what it looks like when you use Google translate in certain contexts; it tries to overlay the replacement language approximately following the shape of the original text block, maybe because UI research suggests it’s more intuitive or something. It makes more sense when you’re doing it “live.” Basically someone used a machine translator and just took a screen shot. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4515 "2023-06-14T22:35:41Z")
It still looks like the 21st Century equivalent of making up a ransom letter using print cut out of newspapers or maganzines. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4516 "2023-06-14T22:47:47Z")
Canada seizes Russian AN-124 cargo plane – one of the largest aircraft in the world – as part of sanctions and plans to either give it to Ukraine or sell it and use the money for Ukrainian military aid. Putin is mighty pissed … > **[Russia says relations with Canada close to 'being severed' as Ottawa seizes...](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/russia-canada-relations-seized-plane-1.6876794)** > > Moscow is warning that relations with Canada are "on the verge of being severed" after the federal Liberal government moved to forfeit a massive Russian cargo plane. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4517 "2023-06-14T22:47:51Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > And what’s with the irregular text in those tweets @Walken_After_Midnight quoted? The font size is all over the place, and the word balloons are crooked. It looks like it might be English translations overlaid on Russian originals, but why do it so sloppily? - Right-click on an image with foreign text, e.g. [![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FylHRH8WAAMorqx?format=jpg&name=small) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FylHRH8WAAMorqx?format=jpg&name=small) - Choose ‘Search image with Google’ option. (Maybe need to be using Chrome browser) - Click ‘Translate’. I’m not sure why the font size varies. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4518 "2023-06-14T22:57:45Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Canada seizes Russian AN-124 cargo plane Is this the same aircraft they seized in 2022? ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4519 "2023-06-14T23:09:02Z")
> **[Borrowing Tactics From The U.S. Army, The Ukrainian Marine Corps Is...](https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/06/13/borrowing-tactics-from-the-us-army-the-ukrainian-marine-corps-is-thundering-through-russian-lines-in-fast-moving-columns/)** > > The Ukrainian 35th Marine Brigade is more than a week into its own prolonged thunder run along the Mokri Yaly River. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972.md?page=220) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972.md?page=222)