# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news\ **Created:** [October 29, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972 "2022-10-29T17:49:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 244
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2023, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4964 "2023-07-03T23:52:49Z")
**Moderating:** And with that, I think it is enough on the rifles. Please drop it from this thread now. You can of course start a new thread on it. ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4965 "2023-07-04T00:40:51Z")
can I ask those with access to twitter to post relevant tweets of - /tendar - /wartranslated - /warmonitor3 - /NOELreports every now and then (those were good news-aggregators) (shakes fist at Musk) thx!!! ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4966 "2023-07-04T01:10:40Z")
The reddit r/ukraine mods do a nice job screening news with Trustworthy News labels. This link came from Reddit. > **[Commander of Russias Akhmat unit killed in Donbas Russian media](https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/3/7409644/)** > > Yevgeny Pisarenko, the commander of Akhmat, a Chechen armed formation that is fighting on the Russian side, has been killed in combat in Donbas. > [@](#): > > Yevgeny Pisarenko, the commander of Akhmat, a Chechen armed formation that is fighting on the Russian side, has been killed in combat in Donbas. > > **Source:** Russian Kremlin-aligned media[RBC](https://www.rbc.ru/politics/03/07/2023/64a2ada69a79471b52f4e790?from=from_main_7?utm_source=telegram&utm_medium=messenger), citing Apta Alaudinov, Pisarenko’s successor > > **Details:** In his statement, Alaudinov thanked the deceased fighter’s parents for “raising such a hero”. > > Dmitry Kulko, a Russian war correspondent, also reported the death of Pisarenko, aka Velikii (“The Great”), on his Telegram channel. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4967 "2023-07-04T01:15:22Z")
> [@Al128](#): > > can I ask those with access to twitter to post relevant tweets With some description of the info, please; because those of us without twitter accounts can no longer see any twitter posts. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4968 "2023-07-04T01:28:50Z")
Not liking the looks of this. > **[China's defense minister and Russia's navy chief meet for 1st military talks...](https://apnews.com/article/china-russia-ukraine-military-defense-bc43ee41dac1e6077f28761f3e11e034)** > > China's defense minister has reaffirmed military relations with Russia during a meeting with the head of the Russian navy. The article claims that China “…would not provide Russia with military assistance or weapons for the [Ukraine] conflict.” Meh, better stay that way. I’m having my doubts, though, hence this posting. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4969 "2023-07-04T02:09:39Z")
China doesn’t have to provide arms to Russia. They can do exactly what the West is doing with Ukraine - convince their allies with old Soviet and Russian weapons and ammo to give them to Russia in exchange for better replacements from China. North Korea has a gazillion artillery shells, and has now given about 20,000 of them to Russia that we kmow of. This could easily be a Chinese operation using North Korea as a cutout. Other Chinese client states could do the same. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4970 "2023-07-04T10:28:13Z")
Links on Mastodon: > [@](#): > > @helafella here are some accounts who post about #Ukraine. Some of them are twitter mirror accounts but its an opportunity to follow whats going on in Ukraine. > I will continue to add pro-ukraine accounts on this tooth. > > @SocraticEthics @ukrdef @UkraineWillWin @ukraine @ukraineaidops @UkraineWorld @Tendar @Capt\_Himars @nexta\_tv @visegrad24 @wartranslated @glasnostgone @olex\_scherba @zelenskyyua @noelreports @Official\_Nafo @osinttechnical @DarthPutinKGB @ChrisO\_wiki > **[Nora Y. (@Nora@swiss.social)](https://swiss.social/@Nora/110644288393238585)** > > @helafella@nafo.uk here are some accounts who post about #Ukraine. Some of them are twitter mirror accounts but its an opportunity to follow whats going on in Ukraine. > I will continue to add pro-ukraine accounts on this tooth.... ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4971 "2023-07-04T11:59:00Z")
thx very useful to many people… ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4972 "2023-07-04T22:15:21Z")
Ukraine needs time and patience. But there is an expectation that Western support will yield results. [https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/04/europe/ukraine-counteroffensive-slow-progress-intl/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/04/europe/ukraine-counteroffensive-slow-progress-intl/index.html) > [@](#): > > [Ukraine’s Western allies](https://cnn.com/2023/06/22/politics/ukraine-counteroffensive-western-assessment/index.html) are getting nervous about the fact that the progress of Kyiv’s long-awaited counteroffensive is being measured in meters, rather than kilometers. Kyiv’s allies are well aware that Ukraine cannot defeat Russia without their help. But the slower than expected pace of the counteroffensive means their support could become increasingly unsustainable if the conflict drags on. > Many of the countries that are supporting Ukraine’s war efforts are struggling with high inflation, rising interest rates and sluggish growth. Their leaders – some of whom are facing elections in the next year and a half – need to justify the huge amount of resources they’ve poured into Ukraine when their own voters are struggling to make ends meet. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4973 "2023-07-04T22:42:22Z")
This part seems important to me: > Deputy Minister of Defense Hanna Maliar said last month that Ukraine was holding back some of its reserves and that the “main strike” was still ahead. > > ISW also said that information published by Russian military bloggers about the situation along the front lines suggests that “Ukrainian forces are not currently attempting the kind of large-scale operations that would result in rapid territorial advances.” There’s no way the Russians have planted this many mines over the whole of the occupied territories. At some point, the Ukrainians will get to a place where the minefields finally stop, and that will be their breakthrough. Once they can advance without too much worrying about hitting more mines, I think we’ll see a rapid collapse of Russian forces. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4974 "2023-07-04T23:23:14Z")
Can the Russians just keep laying new mines a mile down the road the whole time? ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4975 "2023-07-04T23:42:22Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Can the Russians just keep laying new mines a mile down the road the whole time? - Well, they can try, but they’ll run out of mines at some point. And they’ll be under attack the whole time as well, so their efforts won’t be as successful. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4976 "2023-07-04T23:45:16Z")
Lots of nervous chatter about a potential “accident” at the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. Russian telegram channels announcing that Russia has learned that Ukraine intends to attack the site with missiles, and Ukrainian government sources saying they’ve seen satellite photograph evidence of explosive devices being set up on the roofs of two of the reactors. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4977 "2023-07-05T00:14:54Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > > [@Al128](#): > > > > can I ask those with access to twitter to post relevant tweets > > With some description of the info, please; because those of us without twitter accounts can no longer see any twitter posts. Yes. A twitter link is simply a blank box. About half the posts in this thread are simply a succession of blank boxes with zero explanation of what they might contain if they weren’t blank. If you want to tell everyone about something you found on TwitFace, copy & paste the content text, not a link. If you want to post a pic or vid from TwitFace, find it somewhere else and post a link to there. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4978 "2023-07-05T03:50:57Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > Russian telegram channels announcing that Russia has learned that Ukraine intends to attack the site with missiles Seriously. “_Let’s blow up our own nuclear power plant, to contaminate the territory we are trying to reclaim and reduce our access to electric power because … because … because … our minds works just like Russians’?_” That there is some killer logic. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4979 "2023-07-05T04:32:08Z")
Pro-Russian accounts on twitter like Russians With Attitude appear to sincerely believe that Ukraine blew up the Kahovka dam as well. I can’t quite wrap my mind around it. Although come to think of it, they also believe the ‘Ukraine has been shelling the city of Donetsk relentlessly for 8 years’ lie while it appears almost entirely intact despite being in easy artillery range of the front lines. They’ll swallow this lie as well. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4980 "2023-07-05T06:30:30Z")
I couldn’t find many news reports, but there’s been a major explosion in occupied Ukraine at a town called Makiivka. > **[Major explosion in Makiivka, near occupied Donetsk](https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/major-explosion-makiivka-near-occupied-002200433.html)** > > A powerful explosion in occupied Makiivka, Donetsk Oblast, can be seen in numerous videos circulation on social media on the evening of July 4. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4981 "2023-07-05T10:46:10Z")
Video of big explosion: > **[Dmitri](https://bird.makeup/users/wartranslated/statuses/1676523976695111680)** > > Yesterday's explosion in the occupied Makiivka - Russian armed formations placed ammunitions for Grad systems in a residential area. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4982 "2023-07-05T11:54:51Z")
First hand accounts from troops clearing mines. Demining vehicles have been supplied to Ukraine. But they’re large and easy targets for drones and other Russian weapons. Mines are horrific weapons and I understand why they are effective against counter offensives. The Armtrac is interesting UK Tech. It’s a remote controlled tiller that unearths and destroys the mines. It can handle blasts from Anti-Tank mines. > **[Ukraine war: The lethal minefields holding up Kyiv's counter-offensive](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66080652)** > > Russia has mined vast swathes of Ukrainian territory its holds, inflicting casualties as Kyiv advances. > **[​Ukrainian Sappers Got Armtrac 400 Vehicles For Demining Operations (Video) |...](https://en.defence-ua.com/weapon_and_tech/ukrainian_sappers_got_armtrac_400_vehicles_for_demining_operations_video-4760.html)** > > The mine-clearance equipment is actively used in the de-occupied territories to remove explosives left by russians ---
**Author:** ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2023, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/4983 "2023-07-05T12:10:25Z")
Wow, that was a BIG boom. They must have had some ammo stored there because you can see it cooking off in chain reaction. At least some of the ammo appears to have been white phosphorus shells. A future war crime was averted with this strike. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972.md?page=243) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972.md?page=245)