# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news\ **Created:** [October 29, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972 "2022-10-29T17:49:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 264
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/5367 "2023-08-05T04:33:47Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Between bombing ports next to Romania and Wagner training next to the Polish border thereby making Poland, Lithuania, and Latvia nervous, Putin’s really stirring up the nest these days. Additionally, Belarusian helicopters violated Polish airspace a couple of days ago. Meanwhile, menacing Belarusian troops also seek to intimidate: [https://twitter.com/bayraktar\_1love/status/1687612354215763968](https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1687612354215763968) ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/5368 "2023-08-05T13:39:33Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > Meanwhile, menacing Belarusian troops also seek to intimidate: I’ve seen better board breaking by 10-year-old karate students. ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/5369 "2023-08-05T17:23:16Z")
good O.S.Intel on the tanker thats was sent out of commissión y’day/today > **[Thread by @Osinttechnical on Thread Reader App](https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1687720467400916992.html)** > > @Osinttechnical: Bit of a long thread here. The Russian tanker hit overnight by a Ukrainian USV, Sig, was a prolific sanctions violator and a major lifeline for the Russian war effort in Syria. In 2019, the...… ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/5370 "2023-08-05T17:45:33Z")
interesting thoughts … about RU oil business winding down through the black sea - for insurance reasons > > > (((Tendar))) @Tendar it seems that UKR has potentially “parked” many of those small boats/bombs and they can be activated quickly to strike and are pretty much undetectable → loitering ordnance seems the RU are (again) being outsmarted playing their own game ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/5371 "2023-08-05T18:54:07Z")
Dmitry Medvedev has threatened to hand Ukraine an “ecological catastrophe” in response to the tanker attack. What could it be? Another dam burst? Nuclear plant meltdown? ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/5372 "2023-08-05T19:07:35Z")
I’m not sure a week has passed since last February where Medvedev hasn’t threatened someone with nuclear annihilation. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/5373 "2023-08-05T20:19:58Z")
At some point, you stop paying attention to a yapping dog, even if it never loses its teeth. ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2023, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/5374 "2023-08-05T20:23:29Z")
hand him a big bottle and he will be busy (and quiet) for a couple of hours … works.every.time ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/5375 "2023-08-06T01:40:27Z")
2 (unrelated or not???) pieces of news: - russia withdrew their air-assets from belorus - russia fired cruise missiles tonight from belorus into UKR . (I don’t have a good feeling about this) ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/5376 "2023-08-06T13:22:16Z")
4 posts were split to a new topic: [Hunch: Putin will try to muddy the waters of his vanity war by push-shoving Belorus into the war](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunch-putin-will-try-to-muddy-the-waters-of-his-vanity-war-by-push-shoving-belorus-into-the-war/988142) ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/5378 "2023-08-06T02:40:31Z")
I think it’s time NATO started pouring troops into Poland.for some good old fashion training exercises. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/5381 "2023-08-06T13:20:14Z")
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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/5382 "2023-08-06T13:20:50Z")
**Moderating:** Please drop the non-news conjecture. One comment is one thing, but this is now a hijack. I will try to spin this off to an IMHO thread. > [@Hunch: Putin will try to muddy the waters of his vanity war by push-shoving Belarus into the war](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hunch-putin-will-try-to-muddy-the-waters-of-his-vanity-war-by-push-shoving-belorus-into-the-war/988142): > > Can you explain what you think this means and why you find it ominous? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/5383 "2023-08-06T13:25:14Z")
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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2023, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/5384 "2023-08-06T14:02:57Z")
[An examination of Russia’s shift in tactics since the invasion.](https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-army-uses-convicts-regular-troops-spetsnaz-in-ukraine-defense-2023-8) They tried using Spetsnaz as infantry, for example, in the beginning, but now they’re saving those troops for counterattacks and putting convicts in less-pressured areas. ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2023, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/5385 "2023-08-07T00:02:42Z")
the damaged ship propped up by other ships … [![](https://i.redd.it/tmp5b0d27ggb1.jpg) ](https://i.redd.it/tmp5b0d27ggb1.jpg) (reminds me of the comedy where they pretend to have a good time with a guy who died over a weekend - proping him up for photos,etc… name escapes me) ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2023, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/5386 "2023-08-07T00:06:16Z")
> [@Al128](#): > > (reminds me of the comedy where they pretend to have a good time with a guy who died over a weekend - proping him up for photos,etc… name escapes me) The guy’s name was Bernie Lomax, at whose place the protagonists spent a weekend. ---
**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2023, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/5387 "2023-08-07T00:32:51Z")
> [@Al128](#): > > the damaged ship propped up by other ships … Boy, that looks like a great target in its own right. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2023, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/5388 "2023-08-07T01:36:48Z")
Tough to hit with a surface drone at this point, because that part of the Novorossiysk harbour is completely enclosed by a gated sea wall: https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=44.7166063,37.8284982&z=15&output=embed&dg=ntvb ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2023, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/5389 "2023-08-07T02:23:59Z")
Even if Ukraine doesn’t target those ships, though, they’re still out of action right now. It’s standard military doctrine that it’s better to wound the enemy than to kill them, because it ties up more enemy troops to deal with the wounded. This is the naval equivalent, I guess. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972.md?page=263) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972.md?page=265)