# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news\ **Created:** [October 29, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972 "2022-10-29T17:49:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 346
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7026 "2024-03-11T17:57:17Z")
Yeah, it’s essentially like instant minefields. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7027 "2024-03-12T11:17:42Z")
Some capabilites of the sea drones are reported. Based on the trailer, it looks about the size of a nice bass boat with a covered deck. > **[Ukraine war: The sea drones keeping Russia's warships at bay](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68528761)** > > The BBC meets the drone operators helping to resist Russia's attempts to dominate the Black Sea. > **[The sea drone that’s lifting Ukraine morale as it hunts Russian ships](https://www.navytimes.com/unmanned/2024/03/06/the-sea-drone-thats-lifting-ukraine-morale-as-it-hunts-russian-ships/)** > > The Magura is 18 feet long, has a range of up to 500 miles and a 440 pound payload. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7028 "2024-03-12T14:24:15Z")
Those look similar to the drone boats we saw pictures of back in October of 22: > [@Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 1)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/9333): > > This tweet is from September: ---
**Author:** ![Kelevra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/97f17d/32.png) [@Kelevra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kelevra)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7029 "2024-03-12T14:30:58Z")
I think this is an example of the stress Russian air frames are under. Maybe the sanctions are taking their eventual toll. An engine literally fell off mid flight! (edit: Russia claims it was a bird strike) > > > Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 @bayraktar\_1love Also, looks like the Russian troops fighting for Ukraine have crossed the border again. > ---
**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7030 "2024-03-12T19:21:54Z")
They are apparently planning to hold a referundum on exiting the Russian Federation in one of the captured towns. Fantastic trolling. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7031 "2024-03-12T20:18:23Z")
Interesting. Do you have a cite, in keeping with “breaking _news_”? ---
**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7032 "2024-03-12T21:00:58Z")
My only cite is some Twitter report, with this picture being spread fairly widely, hence me using the word “apparently”. However I don’t speak Russian so I’m sorry as far as I know this says “do you like marshmallows?” [![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GIe9Z2bWoAEEqnV?format=jpg&name=large) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GIe9Z2bWoAEEqnV?format=jpg&name=large) Perhaps not something for a breaking news thread after all. Either way it’s just a stunt, or perhaps a way to garner some popular support and get a bit of momentum behind some local resistance. Russia may have to divert a tiny fraction of their forces to sort things out. This sort of thing can certainly undermine Putin’s narrative that he enjoys popular support, right before the Russian “election”. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7033 "2024-03-12T21:11:19Z")
> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#): > > However I don’t speak Russian so I’m sorry as far as I know this says “do you like marshmallows?” Google Lens translated it like so: [![Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/HtjjmO8.png "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/HtjjmO8) Of course, the whole thing could be totally fabricated for all I know. ---
**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7034 "2024-03-12T21:15:50Z")
Thanks I was looking for a translation. Yes please note this has not been verified by any reputable source so far. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7035 "2024-03-12T21:31:57Z")
Google Lens is pretty impressive. It looks like the word at the top should probably be translated as “Bulletin” (and that’s the actual transliteration), but I guess “newsletter” is the more common use and it picked the wrong word in this case. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7036 "2024-03-13T04:37:18Z")
Creative bookkeeping to the rescue. > **[White House announces $300m stopgap military aid package for Ukraine](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/12/ukraine-military-aid-package)** > > Ukraine is running dangerously low on munitions as efforts to get fresh funds for weapons have stalled amid Republican opposition ---
**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7037 "2024-03-13T05:09:42Z")
> **[Ukraine disrupts production at Russian refinery in cross-border strikes on...](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/12/russia-ukraine-war-fuel-refinery-fire-drone-strike-attack)** > > Drone and rocket attacks on energy infrastructure come as pro-Ukraine battalions claim raid across border ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7038 "2024-03-13T14:17:45Z")
Continued evolution of small cheap drones as weapons of war: Ukraine is strapping the Soviet clone of the US Claymore mine underneath their FPV drones and using them as precision command-detonated shrapnel bombs. > **[Ukraine’s Flying Claymore Mines Cut Down Russian Infantry](https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2024/03/12/ukraines-flying-claymore-mines-cut-down-russian-infantry/amp/)** > > FPVs normally have RPG warheads which explode on impact, but a new type is detonated mid-air to produce a spray of lethal anti-personnel shrapnel. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7039 "2024-03-13T14:35:26Z")
I wonder if they could add a laser-level kind of device to that, to help them line up the long axis of the blast area with trenchlines and whatnot. I can’t decide if an IR laser that the Russians can’t see, or a red laser that they can see would be better, but the red laser would definitely produce better videos. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7040 "2024-03-13T15:54:36Z")
The person flying the drone knows how the mine is oriented versus the line of sight in the camera. This is explosive weaponry; you don’t need to align with the trench to +/- 1 degree to be effective. Eyeballing it will be fine. I suspect a Claymore-equivalent will also be highly effective against aircraft parked in the open. All the more so if you can get close. The results at e.g. 20’ will be much more impressive than those at e.g. 60’. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2024, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7041 "2024-03-13T18:12:43Z")
The modern battlefield keeps becoming more and more lethal. The Russian-Ukrainian war has seen some terrifying uses of drones in only 2 years. No one expected to see drones sinking large ships. Or flying land mines dropped on troops. It is making a difference in allowing Ukraine to survive this war. ---
**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7042 "2024-03-22T06:47:50Z")
> **[EU agrees in principle to give profits from frozen Russian assets to Ukraine](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/21/eu-agrees-in-principle-to-give-profits-from-frozen-russian-assets-to-ukraine)** > > Ukraine could receive the first €1bn of interest on the sequestered assets by early July ---
**Author:** ![Dan\_ch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a4c791/32.png) [@Dan\_ch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dan_ch)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7043 "2024-03-22T20:44:42Z")
I really hope that this turns out to be off-topic: [Moscow attack latest: At least 40 dead at concert hall, says Russian intelligence service - BBC News](https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-68642036?src_origin=BBCS_BBC&src_origin=BBCS_BBC) > “At least 40 people have been killed after gunmen attacked a packed concert venue on the outskirts of Moscow, Russian intelligence said. > A large fire has engulfed the roof of the complex and Russian special forces have been deployed to the scene” …but it feels so similar to this: [1999 Russian apartment bombings - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Russian_apartment_bombings) > " In September 1999, a series of explosions hit four apartment blocks in the [Russian](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia) cities of [Buynaksk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buynaksk), [Moscow](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow), and [Volgodonsk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volgodonsk), killing more than 300, injuring more than 1,000, and spreading a wave of fear across the country. The bombings, together with the [Invasion of Dagestan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_Dagestan), triggered the [Second Chechen War](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chechen_War). The handling of the crisis by [Vladimir Putin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin), who was [prime minister](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Minister_of_Russia) at the time, boosted his popularity greatly and helped him attain the presidency within a few months." …that I can’t help thinking this is a KGB operation meant to have a “rally around the flag” effect. By coincidence ([MSN](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-finally-ditched-the-euphemism-it-used-to-pretend-it-isn-t-at-war-with-ukraine/ar-BB1klNSZ)) > a Kremlin spokesperson admitted on Friday that “we are in a state of war,” Putin won the “elections”, Russian economy is gearing for war production for a while already, Russians were informed they’re at war, gloves are off. By the end of the year we’ll likely see a massive (if not mass) mobilization in Russia; I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ll attack again along the recognized border and go for Kharkhiv and Sumy. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7044 "2024-03-22T21:45:58Z")
I was assuming it was an internal Russian group at first, but it seems Islamic State may be claiming responsibility. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2024, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7045 "2024-03-22T22:49:01Z")
So now putin has to divert military assets to fight Isis. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972.md?page=345) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972.md?page=347)