# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news\ **Created:** [October 29, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972 "2022-10-29T17:49:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 356
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7233 "2024-06-11T14:06:27Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > They’ve lost a couple of those on the ground, others were non-functional due to maintenance and the most recent downing over the Sea of Azov was confirmed to be a PATRIOT missile, not an older SA-2. It was an older S-200 system, not SA-2. Correcting myself. An excellent article regarding Ukranian exploits against Russian aircraft using the more mobile German contributed PATRIOT systems. > **[U.S. Army Officer Confirms Russian A-50 Radar Jet Was Shot Down With Patriot...](https://www.twz.com/land/u-s-army-officer-confirms-russian-a-50-radar-jet-was-shot-down-with-patriot-missile)** > > The U.S. Army colonel described how Ukrainian Patriot operators staged a “SAMbush” to bring down the A-50 in January of this year. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7234 "2024-06-12T19:08:51Z")
Yesterday the Russians lost another Su-34, this time because…(checks notes)…it hit a rock. Yeah, you read that correctly. It hit a rock. The Ukrainians don’t need Patriot missiles. They need Ohtani out there hitting rocks at the orcs! > ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7235 "2024-06-12T19:14:51Z")
How does one hit a rock during a training flight?🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7236 "2024-06-12T19:26:50Z")
Think Iranian helicopter going 550 mph on a training run through the mountains. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7237 "2024-06-12T20:12:17Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > How does one hit a rock during a training flight?🤔 Clouds. They ran into a cumulogranite. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7238 "2024-06-12T20:38:55Z")
Now I’ve got an unformed, nebulous comedy routine going on in my head of a conversation between the pilot and his commander in Heaven. “You hit a rock.” “Big fucking rock.” ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7239 "2024-06-12T20:53:24Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > How does one hit a rock during a training flight I’ve heard of nap-of-the-earth flying but that is taking it a wee bit extreme. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7240 "2024-06-12T20:58:43Z")
Might it have been right at takeoff or landing? I’ve heard that, on unsuitable runways, fighter jets can suck up bits of pavement. A loose rock that’s too close to the plane could certainly get sucked up. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7241 "2024-06-12T21:31:09Z")
The Fullback has intakes on the bottom of the fuselage, so that is definitely a possibility. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7242 "2024-06-12T21:31:20Z")
That would make sense. As I recall, the Russian AF doesn’t patrol their runways. ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7243 "2024-06-12T22:00:35Z")
3rd rock from the sun. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7244 "2024-06-12T22:16:33Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Heaven. > > “You hit a rock.” Was the pilot Charlie Brown? ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7245 "2024-06-12T23:19:45Z")
But, seriously, > [@Magiver](#): > > going 550 mph on a training run through the mountains. Further reading of different sources do more frequently say it hit a mountain (does Russian use a terminology similar to English’s “Rock of Gibraltar” to refer to large pieces of stony topography, that could lead to a mistranslation?) and it involved a malfunction in a training flight. So yeah, navigational or terrain-avoidance system malfunction, and next thing you know, “Dmitri, what’s that mountain goat doing in the middle of a cloud?” ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7246 "2024-06-12T23:24:57Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > “Dmitri, what’s that mountain goat doing in the middle of a cloud?” Ya beat me to it. Not sure about that particular plane but some russian fighter planes can at least partially close intakes to avoid FOD for take off. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2024, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7247 "2024-06-12T23:29:53Z")
htt ps://i.img [ur.com/GpIT](http://ur.com/GpIT) h.jpeg One of my favorite Far Side comics. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7248 "2024-06-13T00:07:32Z")
Remember all, breaking news thread. Don’t keep incrementing off topic. Link to comic broken above. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7249 "2024-06-13T01:33:37Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Not sure about that particular plane but some russian fighter planes can at least partially close intakes to avoid FOD for take off. The Mig 29 does that. I looked at a video of this plane and it doesn’t appear to have FOD doors in the intake. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7250 "2024-06-13T03:50:42Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > FOD Query, please: FOD? ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7251 "2024-06-13T03:52:40Z")
Foreign Object Damage. Some airplanes have doors on the air intakes to reduce the chance of sucking in a rock (or a person) while on the ground. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7252 "2024-06-13T03:53:59Z")
Thank you. Is that what killed the Concorde? (Last question on this, WhatExit?, then I’ll stop.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972.md?page=355) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972.md?page=357)