# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news\ **Created:** [October 29, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972 "2022-10-29T17:49:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 370
**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7513 "2024-08-27T18:51:35Z")
Interestingly it’s being reported that Belarusian military vehicles have been spotted with “B” painted on them. What they’re for is impossible to say. Helping Russia to root out the Ukrainians? Threatening to cross over into Ukraine itself? Or just to give a headache to the Ukrainian strategists. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7514 "2024-08-27T20:00:32Z")
Where are these vehicles being spotted? In Russia? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7515 "2024-08-27T20:34:44Z")
> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#): > > Belarusian military vehicles have been spotted with “B” painted on them Б or В ? ---
**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7516 "2024-08-27T21:09:18Z")
Here’s an article about it: > **[Strange marks are now visibles on belarussian armored vehicles : tensions...](https://armyrecognition.com/focus-analysis-conflicts/army/conflicts-in-the-world/ukraine-russia-conflict/strange-marks-are-now-visible-on-belarussian-armored-vehicles-tensions-rising-again)** > > Strange marks are now visibles on belarussian armored vehicles : tensions rising again The article concludes that it’s probably the desire to send a message, which I agree with. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7517 "2024-08-27T22:48:01Z")
I’d love to be a fly on the wall in those meetings. President Zelensky looks exhausted in that photo. > **[Ukraine to present 'victory plan' to US next month, Zelensky says](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crrlnl2vqe2o)** > > US presidential candidates Kamala Harris and Donald Trump would also be shown the plan, President Zelensky says. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7518 "2024-08-27T22:52:46Z")
Good lord. Trumps gonna get the plans too? Why not avoid the middle man and Fed-X them to Putin. ---
**Author:** ![abcdefghij](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/43a26b/32.png) [@abcdefghij](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/abcdefghij)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7519 "2024-08-27T23:01:22Z")
Nobody said the _same_ plan ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7520 "2024-08-27T23:08:16Z")
I like the way you think. And if the Russian military end up in the completely wrong place at the wrong time. Trumps fingerprints would be all over it. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7521 "2024-08-28T00:13:28Z")
> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#): > > The article concludes that it’s probably the desire to send a message, which I agree with. If it were me, and I were a country on the border with Russia and Ukraine, I might want to put my troops on my border as a deterrent to someone using my country to circumvent the other side’s defenses a la the NAZIs in Belgium. And if my military shared common heritage and the same equipment, I might want to visibly distinguish my stuff so that both other forces knew I was not the enemy but a “neutral” third party. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7522 "2024-08-28T01:51:06Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Good lord. Trumps gonna get the plans too? Why not avoid the middle man and Fed-X them to Putin. You’ve got that backwards. Trump was the President who put sanctions on Russian pipelines and Biden was the President who removed them. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7523 "2024-08-28T02:28:09Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > and Biden was the President who removed them. ETA: Sorry, off topic and removed. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7524 "2024-08-28T03:43:48Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Trumps fingerprints would be all over it. Have you ever seen _The Falcon And The Snowman_? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7525 "2024-08-28T07:26:30Z")
That is 1) a complete non sequitur, and 2) something that happened before the war (Biden dropped sanctions on Nordstream in 2021). Back on actual topic: Kazan airport has been shut down for “safety reasons”. > **[Ukraine war latest: Flights suspended at Russian airport for 'safety reasons'](https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-russia-latest-invasion-kursk-putin-war-live-updates-12541713)** > > Kazan International Airport has suspended flights due to the threat of Ukrainian drone strikes, according to reports. It comes after an oil depot in Russia's Rostov region was set on fire by overnight aerial attacks. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7526 "2024-08-28T14:54:12Z")
Russia now has two oil depots on fire. It’s incredible Ukraine reached over 900 miles to kick Putin’s buttocks. Guardian live feed > [@](#): > > Reuters is reporting that a drone attacked an oil products reservoir in **Kotelnich** in Russia’s **Kirov** oblast, more than 1,500 km (930 miles) from the Ukrainian border. > > Regional governor **Alexander Sokolov** said there were no casualties or fires from the attack. > > While it is unclear at this time if the drone was Ukrainian, the attack on Kotelnich comes after Ukraine-launched drones set several oil tanks on fire at the **Glubokinskaya oil depot** in Russia’s **Rostov** oblast, just across the border from Ukraine’s **Luhansk oblast**. The Baza channel, which is close to Russia’s security services, said three tanks were burning after strikes by two drones. > > The Glubokinskaya attack took place while tanks were still on fire at another Rostov oil depot, in the **Proletarsk** district, 10 days after the depot was attacked ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7527 "2024-08-28T15:22:05Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > It’s incredible Ukraine reached over 900 miles to kick Putin’s buttocks. That is indeed pretty wild. For reference, Paris is about 900 miles from Ukraine’s western border, and Denver is about 900 miles from Chicago (and San Francisco). What is the range of the drones they’re using? More to the point, just how far into Russia have Ukrainian soldiers actually moved? ---
**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7528 "2024-08-28T17:33:25Z")
> **Hidden by WE?** > > > [@Machine\_Elf](#): > > > > Paris is about 900 miles from Ukraine’s western border, and Denver is about 900 miles from Chicago. > > More importantly, Moscow is only 500 miles from Kiev, or 300 miles from the Ukrainian border. > Could Zelenski be thinking of bombing Moscow? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7529 "2024-08-28T18:07:34Z")
Careful now: Moving out of Breaking News again. Stick to breaking news and not WAGs. **Moderating:** ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7530 "2024-08-28T22:45:20Z")
I suspect that Russia had a lot of air defenses emplaced along the border, to intercept attacks like this quickly… but that Kursk is behind that line, and so drone/missile attacks launched from there now face much less in the way of air defenses. ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7531 "2024-08-29T12:11:36Z")
> [@Machine\_Elf](#): > > That is indeed pretty wild. For reference, Paris is about 900 miles from Ukraine’s western border, and Denver is about 900 miles from Chicago (and San Francisco). > > What is the range of the drones they’re using? More to the point, just how far into Russia have Ukrainian soldiers actually moved? well, more than 900 miles ;o) … but UKR now is firmly situated 15 miles into RU, so that extends their practical reach by 1.6% (not meant as snark, just to put things into perspective) * * * its sheer size has been the best defense for RU in past wars (i think more than freezing temps)… obv. this has its disadvantages, too … there is no way in hell you can really cover all that terrain with air defense weapons … IOW, RU “heartland” with very few strategic exemptions is pretty much undefended… Intersting to know, how (if!) the F-16 play into that? … can they launch _those_ UKR Cruise Missiles? … not suggesting they flew into RU, but rather if they provided a flexible high alt. launch platform to sidestep some of RU Air Defense … * * * having said that, here the latest from ISW: **Key Takeaways:** - **Multiple reports from Western media indicate that the US government is prohibiting the United Kingdom (UK) from allowing Ukraine to use Storm Shadow missiles to strike military targets in Russia.** - **Several Russian milbloggers claimed on August 28 that the tempo of Ukrainian attacks in Kursk Oblast has slowed and that Ukrainian forces are now attempting to dig in and hold select areas they recently seized.** - **Ukrainian forces conducted drone strikes against oil infrastructure in Rostov and Kirov oblasts and reportedly conducted a drone strike against Voronezh Oblast overnight on August 27 to 28.** - **Russia’s allies appear to be increasingly restricting their transactions with Russian companies and financial institutions amid ongoing concern about the impact of secondary US sanctions.** the last point I find interesting, and might turn into a longer term headache (one of those non-glorious weapons that are surprisingly effective?) ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2024, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7532 "2024-08-29T12:45:17Z")
Are there any reports of the UKR army deliberately targeting air defense systems? It seems like they could maybe make quick strikes to take out missile launchers, radar facilities, and AAA sites and vehicles. This could leave a big hole in the RU air defense wall. This is turn could make Moscow feel very vulnerable to drones and missile attack. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972.md?page=369) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972.md?page=371)