# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news\ **Created:** [October 29, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972 "2022-10-29T17:49:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 380
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2024, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7714 "2024-12-13T17:03:59Z")
The EU is talking about using not just the interest but the capital of what member states are holding (E210bn) > **[Use frozen Russian assets to aid Ukraine, says EU’s top diplomat](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/12/use-frozen-russian-assets-to-aid-ukraine-says-eus-top-diplomat?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other)** > > Kaja Kallas, the EU’s new high representative for foreign affairs, said Kyiv had a legitimate claim for compensation ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2024, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7715 "2024-12-15T00:23:58Z")
This [report from the Kyiv Independent](https://kyivindependent.com/north-korean-troops-open-fire-on-russian-unit-ukraines-military-intelligence-claims/) asserts that a number of Chechen fighters for Russia have been killed in a friendly fire incident by North Korean troops: > North Korean troops fighting alongside Russian forces in Kursk Oblast killed eight members of a Russian unit in a “friendly fire” attack, Ukraine’s military intelligence agency (HUR) claimed on Dec. 14. > > [ellipsis] > > While engaged in combat in Kursk Oblast, a group of North Korean soldiers opened fire on members of the Chechen Akhmat unit fighting for Russia, HUR [**reported**](https://t.me/DIUkraine/5024) via its official Telegram channel. The attack allegedly killed eight Russian soldiers. > > The Kyiv Independent was unable to verify the report. > > HUR said the incident was the result of the [**language barrier**](https://kyivindependent.com/south-korean-intelligence/) between Russian and North Korean troops, which continues to be a “difficult obstacle” on the battlefield. There’s more information at that link on the NK soldiers. ---
**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7716 "2024-12-16T00:36:10Z")
> **[Russian tanker sinks in Black Sea spilling 4,300 tonnes of oil](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/15/two-russian-tankers-sink-in-black-sea-spilling-oil?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other)** > > Ukraine accuses Moscow of recklessness due to risk of ecological damage as second tanker runs aground ---
**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7717 "2024-12-16T01:28:02Z")
> **[Ukrainian drone flies 800km from front line to hit target in Russia’s Chechnya](https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/ukrainian-drone-flies-800km-from-front-line-to-hit-target-in-russia-s-chechnya-20241216-p5kynv.html)** > > Ukraine has also acted to sever Russia’s logistic fuel supply routes from Ukraine’s annexed Crimea to occupied Zaporizhzhia. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2024, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7718 "2024-12-16T01:29:56Z")
It looks like the front fell off. ---
**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7719 "2024-12-17T06:41:38Z")
> **[Bomb kills chief of Russian nuclear protection forces in Moscow, media...](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-12-17/russian-lieutenant-general-igor-kirillov-killed-explosion/104737160?utm_source=abc_news_app&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_campaign=abc_news_app&utm_content=link)** > > Russian Lieutenant General Igor Kirillov has been killed in an explosion on Moscow's Ryazansky Prospekt, according to Russia Today. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7720 "2024-12-18T07:36:28Z")
[![](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/q_70,fl_lossy,dpr_3/v200/44dbb573-a674-4165-a512-8671be52d4cb) ](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/q_70,fl_lossy,dpr_3/v200/44dbb573-a674-4165-a512-8671be52d4cb) ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7721 "2024-12-18T07:39:14Z")
For those that don’t recognize this man doing Dark Brandon, it’s Chief of the Defence Intelligence of Ukraine Kyrylo _Budanov_ Much more on the story and video of the explosions at: > **[Russian General Accused Of Using Chemical Weapons Assassinated By Ukraine](https://www.twz.com/nuclear/russian-general-accused-of-using-chemical-weapons-assassinated-by-ukraine)** > > Lt. Gen. Igor Kirillov was killed one day after Ukrainian state prosecutors charged him in absentia with the alleged use of chemical weapons in Ukraine. Lt. Gen. Igor Kirillov was killed one day after Ukrainian state prosecutors charged him in... ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2024, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7722 "2024-12-19T15:11:59Z")
Ukraine bombed a chemical plant. That’s \*\*\*risky if the chemicals get into the air and wipes out a town. \*\*\*Risky because of support from Europe Link [Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, December 18, 2024 | Institute for the Study of War](https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-december-18-2024) > [@](#): > > **Ukrainian forces reportedly struck a chemical plant in Rostov Oblast on December 18.** Ukrainian Center for Countering Disinformation Head Lieutenant Andriy Kovalenko reported that unspecified actors struck the Kamensky Chemical Plant and that the plant produces rocket fuel, explosives, and ammunition components and disposes of spent rocket systems.[1] Acting Rostov Oblast Governor Yury Slyusar claimed that Russian forces downed 10 missiles over Rostov Oblast, and Russian milbloggers claimed that Ukrainian forces used Storm Shadow or ATACMS missiles in the strike.[2] Russian sources amplified footage purportedly showing Russian air defenses downing the missiles, and a Russian insider source claimed that Ukrainian forces also targeted the Taganrog Metallurgical Plant. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2024, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7723 "2024-12-20T00:23:08Z")
I think that with those particular chemicals, you can probably expect a whole lot of secondary explosion, and almost none of the material surviving intact into the environment. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2024, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7724 "2024-12-20T01:40:17Z")
I’d expect solid rocket fuel residue is pretty crappy for the environment, but it’s not like the Russians care about the environment in the first place. If they did, they wouldn’t be sailing riverine tankers past the Kerch Strait into the Black Sea where they get hit with large waves causing the front to fall off (which is not very typical, I’d like to make that clear). > **[Two Russian oil tankers wrecked in Black Sea's Kerch Strait](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8dq6q0m862o)** > > Video appears to show one of the tankers broken in half and sinking amid a heavy storm, with oil visible in the water. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2024, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7725 "2024-12-20T02:40:28Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > causing the front to fall off (which is not very typical, I’d like to make that clear). Bravo! 😅 ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2024, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7726 "2024-12-20T16:11:20Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Ukraine bombed a chemical plant. And here I thought all the chemical plants were in Ukraine? Or so certain media outlets assured me. Anyhoo, Russia appears to be having a really bad day, at least according to Ukraine. > **[Russia-Ukraine war: Russia suffers worst daily losses since the start of the...](https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/dec/20/russia-ukraine-war-live-kyiv-airstrike-ballistic-missile-vladimir-putin)** > > Kyiv says that 2,200 Russian soldiers have died in the last 24 hours > [@](#): > > Kyiv said 2,200 Russian soldiers died in the last 24 hours of fighting – the previous highest total was 2,030, set on 29 November. ---
**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2024, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7727 "2024-12-21T07:50:58Z")
> **[Ukraine war briefing: IMF approves $1.1bn loan to Ukraine](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/21/ukraine-war-briefing-imf-approves-11bn-loan-to-ukraine?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other)** > > Loan approval by the International Monetary Fund will bolster Ukraine as it faces continued Russian attacks. What we know on day 1,032 ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2024, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7728 "2024-12-23T23:27:18Z")
Germany delivers more miliary air defense. > **[Germany delivers significant military aid package to Ukraine](https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-defense/3941183-germany-delivers-significant-military-aid-package-to-ukraine.html)** > > A significant military aid package from Germany, described as one of the largest to date, has been delivered to Ukraine, including advanced air defense systems and other critical equipment. — Ukrinform. > [@](#): > > The package includes: sixth IRIS-T SLM and fifth IRIS-T SLS air defense systems, each consisting of two launchers and missiles; two additional Patriot launchers, supplementing the two previously delivered; 12 armored vehicles with kinetic defense systems (manufactured by Diehl Defense, marking their first delivery to Ukraine). > Also, Germany has delivered to Ukraine two Gepard self-propelled anti-aircraft guns with 65,000 rounds of ammunition (manufacturing of which was recently resumed), two TRML-4D air surveillance radars, and AIM-9L/I-1 Sidewinder missiles (quantity undisclosed). ---
**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7729 "2024-12-25T11:24:38Z")
Many Ukrainians are spending Christmas Day in shelters because Russia has launched a large missile barrage at Ukrainian cities. Evil fuckers. If course Russia celebrates Christmas in early January so perhaps an attack today was predictable. It’s only very recently that Ukraine has shifted to celebrating Christmas on December 25th. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7730 "2024-12-25T19:38:19Z")
Curious because Wiki says of the religious in Ukraine (82%) 72.7% are Eastern Orthodox, far ahead of of the second largest group, 8.2% Ukrainian Greek Catholics. Perhaps their distaste of anything Russian made them change the date. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7731 "2024-12-25T19:52:20Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Perhaps their distaste of anything Russian made them change the date. Bingo. The Ukrainian Orthodox church became autocephalous in 2019 (with the agreement of the Patriarch in Constantinople) as a big fuck you to the Patriarch of Moscow. There is a very long background history that reaches back to the Middle Ages, but the trigger was the obvious. In May of 2023 they tossed the Julian calendar and adopted the Gregorian as a further extension of that separation from Russia and the Russian church. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2024, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7732 "2024-12-26T01:46:53Z")
Japan will transfer $3 billion of frozen Russian assets to Ukraine. > **[Japan to transfer $3 billion from frozen Russian assets to Ukraine, Zelensky...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/japan-transfer-3-billion-frozen-181647801.html)** > > In a phone call with Japanese Prime Minister Shigeru Ishiba, Zelensky expressed his gratitude for Japan's previous aid to Ukraine, which has totaled $12 billion and "makes it possible to save thousands of lives." ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2024, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7733 "2024-12-26T02:21:52Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Japan will transfer $3 billion of frozen Russian assets to Ukraine. This will allow Ukraine to transfer the assets as needed back to Russia. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972.md?page=379) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972.md?page=381)