# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news\ **Created:** [October 29, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972 "2022-10-29T17:49:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 393
**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7975 "2025-08-17T18:16:30Z")
It’s a strong delegation which is really positive. If no deal is struck it will be harder for Trump to claim it’s just Zelensky being obstructive. None of the (non-Russian puppet) European countries want to see an aggressor who’s trying to change Europe’s internal borders by force get rewarded. If I was a European leader I might also challenge Trump to reassert US commitment to NATO Article 5, in order to demonstrate that the guarantee behind the proposed peace deal can actually be counted on. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7976 "2025-08-17T19:09:05Z")
The Anchorage meeting did not go well. It doesn’t appear that much was accomplished. It.doesn’t seem like there’s much to discuss at Mondays WH meeting. Link [Putin won in Anchorage. Now Zelenskyy and Europe are in an even more perilous position | Rajan Menon | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/aug/17/vladimir-putin-donald-trump-alaska-anchorage-summit-ukraine) > [@](#): > > Trump returned from Anchorage empty-handed for other reasons. Successful summits require painstaking advance work by leaders’ subordinates; this one was arranged in haste. Given the rush, it was unsurprising that the Anchorage talks [ended hours ahead of time](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/08/15/trump-putin-alaska-ukraine-zelensky/). (The working lunch the two delegations were to have was cancelled.) During his post-summit press conference, Trump gamely praised Putin’s goodwill and said that they had agreed on “[many points](https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/16/trump-putin-alaska-summit-ukraine-no-breakthrough-.html)” during discussions that he described as “productive”. Yet he failed to identify a single point of agreement and, atypically, didn’t stay to answer reporters’ questions. ---
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7977 "2025-08-17T19:55:25Z")
> **Please don't reply in this thread.** > > Did Putin really win anything in Alaska? > > I think pretty much all the world outside of MAGA is aware that Trump is a doddering old fool whose brains (which he never had many of to start) are turning into mush. Making him look like a fool is kind of like shooting fish in a barrel. It doesn’t enhance Putin’s standing to show up Trump, and we aren’t any worse off than we already are given the political balance of power in Congress. > > I’m inclined to think that this doesn’t really change anything. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7979 "2025-08-17T19:59:30Z")
**Moderating:** Keep politics out of #breaking-news, this post is over the line. I’ll be hiding your post. This is the second time I had to hide one of your posts in this thread, last was 2 years ago. So no warning. But next one will be a thread ban. > **How to Reply as a linked Topic** > > Click Reply, in the upper left corner of the reply window is the reply type button, _looks like a curving arrow point to the right_. > > Choose **Reply as linked topic** and it starts a new thread. As an example, you can choose GD, IMHO or The Pit for it. > > That is actually the best method. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2025, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7980 "2025-08-17T20:11:35Z")
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2025, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7981 "2025-08-21T20:16:51Z")
[Russian airstrikes hit a U.S. factory in western Ukraine](https://www.npr.org/2025/08/21/g-s1-84146/russia-ukraine-american-factory) > KYIV, Ukraine — Two Russian cruise missiles slammed into an American electronics factory in a remote corner of far western Ukraine before dawn Thursday, causing extensive damage and more than a dozen injuries, according to Ukrainian officials. … > > The company that was hit, [Flex](https://flex.com/company#about-us), produces civilian electronic components and products… The company was founded in the U.S., is listed on NASDAQ, and has headquarters in both Austin, Texas, and Singapore. … > > Russia did not say why the plant was targeted. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7982 "2025-08-22T06:28:40Z")
Of course they didn’t _say._ But they’ve left a calling card. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7983 "2025-08-22T15:06:27Z")
Attacks on Russian energy should be more effective than bombing a base with drones. Link [Ukraine attacks pipeline that sends Russian oil to Hungary and Slovakia | Ukraine | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/22/ukraine-attacks-pipeline-that-sends-russian-oil-to-hungary-and-slovakia) > [@](#): > > Ukraine has hit a key pumping station on the Druzhba oil pipeline bringing fuel to Europe from Russia, knocking out supplies to Hungary and [Slovakia](https://www.theguardian.com/world/slovakia), the only remaining EU member states still receiving Russian oil. > > As [Ukraine](https://www.theguardian.com/world/ukraine) targets infrastructure crucial to Moscow’s war effort in response to the Russian onslaught, the commander of Ukraine’s Unmanned Systems Forces, Robert Brovdi, announced the attack on the Unecha pumping station in the Bryansk region. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2025, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7984 "2025-08-22T17:18:27Z")
Ukraine has also attacked a couple oil trains bring fuel to Crimea. Video of one below, but I believe they hit another one a few days before this. > **[Ukrainian drones destroy Russian train and general: FPV attack shocks the...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzrQ-sxbxII%2F)** > > Ukrainian FPV drones have once again proven their deadly precision!A top Russian general barely survived a targeted attack, losing both limbs, while a fuel t... ---
**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2025, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7985 "2025-09-02T21:27:39Z")
Trump’s 50 day deadline to Russia to stop attacking Ukraine has expired today. Of course I have no doubt he will follow through on all his threats against Putin. > **[Donald Trump's 50-day deadline to Russia expires](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-50-day-deadline-russia-expires-2123116)** > > The U.S. president threatened tariffs on Moscow if there was no deal to end to the war within the seven-week time frame. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7986 "2025-09-03T05:28:05Z")
As if he might remember something longer than a orange goldfish. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7987 "2025-09-03T11:09:07Z")
Ah, the “stop, or I’ll say stop again!” tactic. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7988 "2025-09-10T02:40:52Z")
Russian drones in Poland airspace tonight… > **[Poland says it has shot down drones that entered its airspace during Russian...](https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/09/europe/poland-scramble-jets-russian-drone-reports-intl-hnk-ml?cid=ios_app)** > > Poland’s military said early Wednesday that it had shot down drones that violated its airspace during a Russian attack on neighboring Ukraine, in what is potentially a major provocation for Europe. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2025, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7989 "2025-09-27T04:50:12Z")
NATO should shadow every single Russian ship with a small commercial ship. Monitor them for drones, dragging anchors, undersea craft and anything else they can try and slip by. ---
**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2025, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7990 "2025-10-09T07:35:25Z")
> **[The hedgehog (@the-hedgehog.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/the-hedgehog.bsky.social/post/3m2pfhdthdc2e)** > > Ukrainian drone followed a Russian drone back to its home, hit the Russian drone operator ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2025, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7991 "2025-10-13T01:59:43Z")
Wow. That’s some serious flying by the drone operator. It drops down to 2 or 3 feet off the ground and flies into the open doorway. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2025, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7992 "2025-10-20T20:00:38Z")
trump has very nicely (HAH!) suggested that the war end by giving Russia everything it wants- > **[Trump calls for Ukraine war to halt with Russia in control of occupied...](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-russia-ukraine-war-zelenskyy-putin-ceasefire/)** > > Trump wants Russia and Ukraine to freeze the war on the current battlelines, with Moscow holding a huge swathe of eastern Ukraine. _President Trump reiterated his call on Sunday for an immediate halt to the three-and-a-half-year full-scale war in Ukraine, saying the battle lines should be frozen where they currently stand, with Russia’s invading forces occupying most of Ukraine’s eastern Donbas region._ _Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has repeatedly rejected the idea of forfeiting the Donbas, or any other occupied ground, to Moscow in the years since Vladimir Putin ordered Russia’s full-scale invasion on Feb. 24, 2022._ ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2025, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7993 "2025-10-20T21:49:36Z")
I have a suggestion that’s almost as good: Just end the war right now at the borders that Russia already agreed to by treaty. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2025, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7994 "2025-10-21T06:47:46Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > the borders that Russia already agreed to by treaty. Those, indeed, that _Putin_ agreed to: > **[Treaty on the Russian–Ukrainian border](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_on_the_Russian%E2%80%93Ukrainian_border)** > > The Treaty on the Russian–Ukrainian border is a bilateral international treaty between the Russian Federation and Ukraine, which delineated the land border line between the two countries. > The Treaty defines the "Russia–Ukraine state border" as the line and vertical surface passing along this line, separating the state territories (land, waters, subsoil, and airspace) of the Contracting Parties from the point of junction of the state borders of the Russian Federation, Ukraine, and the Republic ... ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2025, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/7995 "2025-10-22T05:15:02Z")
If I were a country on the Russian border I’d be focusing on Putin the soldier going forward. All’s fair in love and war and he would be the first casualty. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972.md?page=392) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972.md?page=394)