# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news\ **Created:** [October 29, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972 "2022-10-29T17:49:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 54
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2022, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1064 "2022-12-09T20:49:39Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > It was a cartoon. Robert S. Johnson [would disagree](https://realhistory.co/2018/05/23/robert-s-johnson-p47-thunderbolt/). ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2022, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1065 "2022-12-09T20:51:21Z")
wrong thread ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2022, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1066 "2022-12-09T20:53:32Z")
wrong thread ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2022, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1067 "2022-12-09T20:53:46Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Paredes Pretty sure you are in the wrong thread. Look for a World Cup one. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2022, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1068 "2022-12-09T20:54:11Z")
Yup! Oops. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2022, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1069 "2022-12-09T20:55:43Z")
Not a problem~I enjoyed googling ‘paredes’-now I know. Check out the mundane and pointless forum, we natter back and forth about footy and the World Cup frequently. ---
**Author:** ![JohnGalt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johngalt/32/184_2.png) [@JohnGalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnGalt)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2022, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1070 "2022-12-09T23:26:58Z")
Just gotta share this gift article from the Washington Post about [David Letterman’s surprise trip to Ukraine](https://wapo.st/3UGukPr). His interview with Zelensky will be shown on Netflix starting on Monday. It’s a great article and I’m sure it will be a great interview. ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1071 "2022-12-10T01:27:23Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > This smells to high heaven, where in South America would he flee to?, If he came to Argentina our government would deliver him to his enemies so fast he wouldn’t even be able to eat a choripán here. > May be Brazil, where they don’t have an extradition treaty? Doubtful. yep, I agree! the way things are going in LatAm you have had left-right-left-right swings every couple of years (e.g. Arg. Chile, Perú, Colombia, Brasil, Ecuador … the list goes on) … he might be OK with left governments, but then just look at what happened in Perú this week … and those hardcore commy countries (cuba, venezuela) can implode any second… I doubt he will make his “golden years (months?)” dependent on some democratic processes in countries whose culture he doesnt understand - hoping the russian loving left win elections. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1072 "2022-12-10T01:38:20Z")
“Russia loving Left”? ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1073 "2022-12-10T02:42:14Z")
They are probably thinking 40 years ago, when left governments were more associated with Communist USSR. These days, Russia is authoritarian, not Communist, and that seems to be the domain of the Right. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1074 "2022-12-10T03:15:53Z")
The right in South America is supported, like it or not, by the USA, so the left supports, and is supported by whoever is against the USA. It’s game theory more than true political preferences. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1075 "2022-12-10T04:59:54Z")
Thank you for the gift link! ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1076 "2022-12-10T19:21:11Z")
The latest drawdown of DoD stocks for Ukraine on Friday. .$275 Million in Additional Assistance for Ukraine Dec. 9, 2022 | Today, the Department of Defense (DoD) announces the authorization of a Presidential Drawdown of security assistance valued at up to $275 million to meet Ukraine’s critical security and defense needs. This authorization is the Biden Administration’s twenty-seventh drawdown of equipment from DoD inventories for Ukraine since August 2021. This security assistance package will provide Ukraine with new capabilities to boost its air defenses in addition to providing critical equipment that Ukraine is using so effectively to defend itself on the battlefield. Capabilities in this package include: • Additional ammunition for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS); _no indication of which warhead (unitary or tungsten BBs._ • 80,000 155mm artillery rounds; _Standard HE rounds, mostly M795. No indication of anti-armor mine carrying projectiles. No indication of Excalibur rounds._ • Counter-Unmanned Aerial Systems equipment; • Counter air defense capability; _probably Avenger HMMWVs with Stinger missiles. HAWK missiles may also be included._ • High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (HMMWVs) Ambulances and medical equipment; • Approximately 150 generators; • Field equipment. I note that details are becoming sketchier lately about exactly what is in the packages. Better for OPSEC. Italics are my comments. > **[$275 Million in Additional Assistance for Ukraine](https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/3241679/275-million-in-additional-assistance-for-ukraine/)** > > The U.S. has committed more than $19.3 billion to Ukraine since the beginning of Russia's unprovoked invasion on February 24. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1077 "2022-12-10T19:27:12Z")
do not want to hijack, sorry ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1078 "2022-12-10T21:36:18Z")
seems like UKR got new toys - or at least longer range missiles for HARMS … they seem to shell the f\*ck out of far-behind-the-frontline-targets … Crimea, etc… > > > > > and what seems to be another Wagner-hotel-coup: . > ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1079 "2022-12-10T21:46:27Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > They are probably thinking 40 years ago, when left governments were more associated with Communist USSR. These days, Russia is authoritarian, not Communist, and that seems to be the domain of the Right. you can’t undo 70 years of Communists vs. USA support (in LatAm) in a matter of months … ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1080 "2022-12-10T22:02:55Z")
In the vote to condemn Russia’s attempted annexations, Nicaragua voted “No”. Abstentions in Central and South America: - Bolivia - Cuba - Honduras. No vote recorded: - El Salvador - Venezuela > **[UN votes 143-5 to condemn Russia's land-grabs in Ukraine - but China and...](https://inews.co.uk/news/world/un-general-assembly-russia-vote-list-in-full-world-condemns-russias-illegal-annexations-ukraine-1908831)** > > The vote 'is a powerful demonstration of the international community’s widespread condemnation of Russia’s outrageous, illegal' actions, the UK Foreign Secretary said ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1081 "2022-12-10T22:27:36Z")
I can’t believe Israel will sit back and watch Russia arm Iran. Israel has always reacted proactively. They’ll Bomb the drone plant or airfields before missiles are delivered. Guardian blog > [@](#): > > Iran’s backing for the Russian military is likely to grow in coming months and Moscow will probably offer Tehran an “unprecedented” level of military support in return, the UK Ministry of Defence has said. The ministry’s latest intelligence update said Iran had become one of Russia’s top military backers since Russia invaded Ukraine in February and that Moscow was now trying to obtain more weapons, including hundreds of ballistic missiles. This is Israel acting to protect its interests. [https://thehill.com/policy/international/middle-east-north-africa/572947-israel-killed-iranian-scientist-with-high-tech/](https://thehill.com/policy/international/middle-east-north-africa/572947-israel-killed-iranian-scientist-with-high-tech/) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1082 "2022-12-10T22:31:16Z")
They’re trading… military support? to Iran? That’s what they don’t have, and what they’re trying to get FROM Iran. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1083 "2022-12-10T22:35:05Z")
I’d guess it may be aid to Iran’s nuclear program or other advanced weaponry. Russia has been devloping a satellite killer. The S-550 Missile has been tested. Russia probably has EMP weapons. A pact between Russia and Iran would be a threat to Israel and NATO. Helping Russia certainly hurts Ukraine. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972.md?page=53) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972.md?page=55)