# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news\ **Created:** [October 29, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972 "2022-10-29T17:49:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 65
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1294 "2022-12-22T02:11:03Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > So, when it comes to his viewers, he will make sure Russian propaganda wins the day. What a vile, vile piece of shit he is. I’m quite confident that Tucker Carlson is being paid by Putin, and should be sent to jail for the rest of his life. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1295 "2022-12-22T02:20:41Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > He made his appeal most directly to the American people and thanked them profusely for their support while making clear that more help is needed. I particularly liked when he said (paraphrased), “This is not charity. This is an investment.” ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1296 "2022-12-22T02:32:05Z")
Good speech. He was able to make some jokes and even a pun in his speech, very well done. He is not letting go of his gifted flag. I can hold! ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1297 "2022-12-22T02:40:11Z")
This is a gift link to the NYT live blog about Zelenskyy’s visit if anyone is interested. > **[Zelensky Tells Congress ‘You Can Speed Up Our Victory’](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/12/21/world/volodymyr-zelensky-russia-ukraine-news?unlocked_article_code=rHcLsS7BjlqGdkS4f96hUQ28fqBaLT2RdYZyKz2dShQuAddDfiy2o_WQsAHn4D0hpXZki3c1u-pon430-tuXn_uC2XdUhVFjViPjz47NCiAN2EfEskwZKoaUPsYWVMxlpUMNfMoBu8YJ-oKw8v4xpbDDFJrHvnf3zZbKNtIEMSIb0nrOt5_L2zazY0aXHxxE6K0gepawkYfH7kb78QuCZ7zXFiNtzxKXu-pwwjepZVXCbTM0W3QAnOJGG_nS10OjS4Sj3wPPF4KbpA7O-1s4b5ZIKQPTD2b40v7nGyNhFBpYoRCGiM542tvjSndjpkfkgA78ksVME-VvFjBw1Cz153LUFpDiQXbedBCDbpK6nL3vt-0DQLlG&smid=share-url)** > > Making his first trip outside Ukraine since Russia invaded, Zelensky urged a joint session of Congress to continue support for the defense of his country. Some Republicans skipped his speech. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1298 "2022-12-22T02:58:59Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > He derided Zelensky for wearing a sweatshirt to speak in the Capital and told his audience that this lowlife was begging for their tax dollars, not to win a war but to get rid of Putin. Oddly enough, I have exactly zero problems with the result being getting rid of Putin. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1299 "2022-12-22T04:51:15Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > I missed the beginning but did catch at least the last half and yes, it was fantastic. I didn’t see a lot of reaction shots of the chamber so I’m a bit curious if any of the Russian stooges in Congress were present and did they boo or catcall? I watched the whole thing, rather after the fact but it was up on one of the news sites – I’ve forgotten which one, except that it certainly wasn’t Fox. I think most of the chamber got their exercise for the week getting up and down – it seemed that no longer had they sat down when they stood up again for yet another standing ovation. Some members sat at least some of the time, but even they seemed to be applauding. I didn’t hear a single boo or catcall. (I couldn’t tell you who was doing what, I’m partly faceblind and for most of them couldn’t tell who was who. But I think just about all of them were there.) ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1300 "2022-12-22T06:26:04Z")
I saw online that MTG wasn’t there. I made the mistake of checking in on Truth just in case the TFG was ranting. The first post I saw was from Don Jr. It was a picture of Zelensky handing the signed flag to Harris and Pelosi with what I assume was an image of naked Hunter Biden standing next to Zelensky and jerking off. Classy. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1301 "2022-12-22T06:35:29Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > The first post I saw was from Don Jr. It was a picture of Zelensky handing the signed flag to Harris and Pelosi with what I assume was an image of naked Hunter Biden standing next to Zelensky and jerking off. Classy. This pretty much summarizes the MAGA brain trust at this point. Congratulations MAGAts, This is who you are. Be proud. Show it to your mothers. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1302 "2022-12-22T13:59:35Z")
> **[Russia's only aircraft carrier catches fire](https://www.newsweek.com/russia-kuznetsov-murkansk-fire-aircraft-carrier-1768956)** > > The Admiral Kuznetsov has witnessed other mishaps, including a deadly fire in 2019 and a 70-ton crane crashing onto its flight deck in 2018. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1303 "2022-12-22T14:57:00Z")
Tap the Admiral. 🥂 ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1304 "2022-12-22T15:01:31Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > I’m quite confident that Tucker Carlson is being paid by Putin, and should be sent to jail for the rest of his life. Tucker Carlson is the modern Lord Haw-Haw. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1305 "2022-12-22T15:03:13Z")
Well, that story implies that at least some of the recent misfortunes the Russian Navy has suffered may not have been Ukrainian action. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1306 "2022-12-22T15:09:30Z")
🙏 that Zelenskyy gets back safely. > **[How did President Zelensky get to Washington?](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64065527)** > > How Ukraine's president travelled out of his country for the first time since the war began. ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1307 "2022-12-22T15:13:49Z")
**Moderator Note** > [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > I saw online that MTG wasn’t there. > > I made the mistake of checking in on Truth just in case the TFG was ranting. The first post I saw was from Don Jr. It was a picture of Zelensky handing the signed flag to Harris and Pelosi with what I assume was an image of naked Hunter Biden standing next to Zelensky and jerking off. Classy. > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > This pretty much summarizes the MAGA brain trust at this point. Congratulations MAGAts, This is who you are. Be proud. Show it to your mothers. Reminder: This is a breaking news thread. Keep the political comments to a minimum. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1308 "2022-12-22T15:31:21Z")
Frankly, I want America to send him back blatantly openly. Have 30 American fighter jets escort him in a plane all the way back to Kyiv, tell Russia that any attempt to shoot him down is a casus belli. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1309 "2022-12-22T15:41:58Z")
I still can’t understand why we aren’t sending trainers or advisors with the Patriot. We’ve sent in advisors or even special forces into most modern conflicts. Iran sent a entire drone team to Crimea. Iran is directly responsible for a lot of deaths. We don’t have the balls to staff a defensive Patriot system? It would make sense for our men to set up the Patriot and gradually train the Ukrainians. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1310 "2022-12-22T15:44:39Z")
If we were, it’s likely we wouldn’t know it. I have little doubt that for every public announcement of military equipment and other aide, there are lots of secret forms of assistance we’re providing. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1311 "2022-12-22T15:46:08Z")
“Sargent Artillery Instructor, where have you been the last six months?” “Oh, you know, around and about…” ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1312 "2022-12-22T15:53:19Z")
“Visiting my girlfriend in Canada.” ---
**Author:** ![Capn\_Carl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Capn\_Carl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capn_Carl)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2022, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1313 "2022-12-22T15:53:32Z")
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