# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news\ **Created:** [October 29, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972 "2022-10-29T17:49:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 67
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1334 "2022-12-23T16:43:02Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Propagandists report that Shtepa burned alive in the car. I would have preferred that he fall out a window. It would be a fine message to Putin that the Ukrainians are now adept at the new Russian sport of window-falling. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1335 "2022-12-23T16:45:09Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > the new Russian sport of window-falling. Imagine the betting opportunities. [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAkvM0Tzd3I) ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1336 "2022-12-23T16:55:10Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > I would have preferred that he fall out a window. It would be a fine message to Putin that the Ukrainians are now adept at the new Russian sport of window-falling. Well, ill-advised cigarette smoking is another well-known Russian problem. ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1337 "2022-12-23T17:21:25Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > I would have preferred that he fall out a window. Into a burning car. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1338 "2022-12-23T17:44:42Z")
Filled with killer bees. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1339 "2022-12-23T19:07:26Z")
Bit unfair to the bees. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1340 "2022-12-23T19:10:08Z")
Or in a smoking accident with a cigarette with killer bees and when he smokes the killer bees shoot out. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1341 "2022-12-23T19:25:07Z")
We’ve got to work polonium in here somehow… Maybe the bees are radioactive? ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1342 "2022-12-23T19:36:10Z")
Where’d the other 4 fallers go? Peterson should have landed on a heap, not on a sidewalk. ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1343 "2022-12-23T19:46:11Z")
England has an efficient government service for that. [![](https://legal-planet.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/bringouryourdead.png?w=300) ](https://legal-planet.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/bringouryourdead.png?w=300) ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1344 "2022-12-23T20:26:49Z")
![](https://media.giphy.com/media/d6nvFKK6Dr9YbBDeNQ/giphy.gif) ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2022, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1345 "2022-12-23T21:25:51Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > We’ve got to work polonium in here somehow… Maybe the bees are radioactive? The bees have very small, polonium and ricin tipped umbrellas. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2022, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1346 "2022-12-24T00:35:27Z")
A few of the survivors are in the US for physical and psychological treatment. I can’t imagine anyone that survived Mariupol will ever escape the trauma of PTSD. > **[‘No one came out of there unchanged’: the Ukrainian soldiers who survived the...](https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/dec/23/ukrainian-soldiers-survived-siege-azovstal-steelworks-mariupol)** > > Thousands took shelter in the tunnels of the steelworks in Mariupol for more than two months as Russia bombarded it with missiles. It remains unclear how many are now in captivity ---
**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2022, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1347 "2022-12-24T02:23:03Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I can’t imagine anyone that survived Mariupol will ever escape the trauma of PTSD. Nor will [the theatre the Russian murdered hundreds of people in](https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/dec/23/russia-ukraine-war-live-north-korea-denies-supplying-russias-wagner-group-with-weapons-air-raid-sirens-sound-in-mykolaiv?page=with:block-63a5d1c08f085ce9739c47e7#block-63a5d1c08f085ce9739c47e7). ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2022, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1348 "2022-12-24T03:28:01Z")
Russia’s losses in Ukraine haven’t [stopped them from expanding into the Arctic](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yag0tPiXpG0). ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2022, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1349 "2022-12-24T03:55:38Z")
Who is Russia so paranoid about? NATO has never shown any interest in taking Russian territory. Ukraine’s possible membership would primarily been defensive. Russia could be doing really well. Nord Stream 2 would have made a lot of money and increased dependency on Russian gas. Putin has his own reasons. They don’t seem very logical. I hate seeing the Arctic militarized. ---
**Author:** ![glowacks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/glowacks/32/5548_2.png) [@glowacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glowacks)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2022, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1350 "2022-12-24T04:25:31Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Who is Russia so paranoid about? They’re projecting their own thought patterns onto the West. If they were in the West’s position, they’d be swooping in and “claiming” the countries for their own. They fail to see how most of the former Soviet bloc intentionally joined NATO and the EU, or think it was done through subterfuge and lying, because that’s exactly how they would have done it. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2022, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1351 "2022-12-24T04:38:04Z")
> [@glowacks](#): > > They’re projecting their own thought patterns onto the West. If In other words, “every accusation is a confession”. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2022, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1352 "2022-12-24T04:54:37Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Ukraine’s possible membership would primarily been defensive. Which would have functionally prevented him from taking/vassalizing Ukraine. Some analysts think Putin wanted to go down in history as having restored the old borders of the USSR. Either actually or de facto by proxy (i.e. a bit like Belarus now). NATO had already cock-blocked him in the Baltics. Allowing Ukraine to remain independent, hostile and untouchable was not a tolerable option for him. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2022, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1353 "2022-12-24T04:59:45Z")
What it feels like to be on the receiving end of artillery. A British mercenary/volunteer gives an interview. I know I would go stark raving mad if I had to face this for 6 months and would eventually just stand out in the open hoping to get blown up. > **[r/UkraineRussiaReport - Ua Pov: British Mercenary/volunteer Joe Mcdonald talks...](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/ztnwkp/ua_pov_british_mercenaryvolunteer_joe_mcdonald/)** > > 133 votes and 103 comments so far on Reddit [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972.md?page=66) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972.md?page=68)