# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news\
**Created:** [October 29, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972 "2022-10-29T17:49:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2022, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1374 "2022-12-26T21:28:10Z")

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So apparently Putin says he’s willing to negotiate. Bullshit. He just wants to buy some time to get more weapons from Iran, and get some more cannon fodder lined up.

The only thing this excrement will understand is a position of total strength.

You want to negotiate, Putin? Fine, first thing is to bring all those people back to life THAT YOU KILLED, YOU ASSHOLE. That is a start. Can’t manage that? Then fuck you.

> **[Putin says Russia ready to negotiate over Ukraine, Kyiv says Moscow doesn't...](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-says-russia-ready-negotiate-over-ukraine-2022-12-25/)**
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> The Kremlin says it will fight until all its aims are achieved while Kyiv says it will not rest until every Russian soldier is ejected from all of its territory.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2022, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1375 "2022-12-26T21:50:27Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> So apparently Putin says he’s willing to negotiate.

There will be a change in the organization of the US government in a little over a week. It appears that Vlad may be counting on a favorable shift in the international political climate.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2022, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1376 "2022-12-26T22:12:25Z")

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Ukraine is asking for a peace summit around the anniversary of the invasion. That’s also when a new major Russian offensive is predicted.

I guess Ukraine is trying to deflect that possible 2nd attack with a peace summit?

> **[Ukraine aims for UN-backed peace summit in February](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/dec/26/ukraine-aims-for-un-backed-peace-summit-with-russia-in-february)**
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> Russia can only be invited if it has faced a war crimes tribunal first, says foreign minister, Dmytro Kuleba

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2022, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1377 "2022-12-26T22:13:37Z")

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> **Hid Political Post**
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> > [@eschereal](#):
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> > There will be a change in the organization of the US government in a little over a week. It appears that Vlad may be counting on a favorable shift in the international political climate.
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> Putin is already lining up his comrades/turncoats:
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> [Russian state TV celebrates 'brave' Lauren Boebert and Matt Gaetz for undermining Ukraine](https://www.rawstory.com/russian-media-boebert-gaetz/)

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2022, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1378 "2022-12-26T22:46:42Z")

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> **Hid political Post**
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> Putin’s Russia is the modern Republicans’ endgame/wet dream.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2022, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1379 "2022-12-26T22:48:21Z")

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Belarusian soldiers preparing for war:

> <https://twitter.com/AndrewPerpetua/status/1607067284060930049>

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**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2022, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1380 "2022-12-26T22:57:44Z")

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why were there no female dancers?

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**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2022, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1381 "2022-12-26T23:15:59Z")

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It’s more of a circus show than a dance. In one of the final scenes of the movie Patton, the Russian soldiers perform this very dance for General Patton to celebrate the shared victory.

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**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2022, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1382 "2022-12-26T23:35:52Z")

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Just how many oligarchs are (were) in Russia? Seems they started running out of convenient windows in country and have started tossing them out of windows all over the place.

All these that are out of Russia, did they move their funds also? Is Putin “inheriting” all the dead oligarch cash and businesses? I can’t see him letting that go to family members. If he manages to successfully flee the country, he’s going to need all the billions he can hold on to to keep up his lifestyle.

> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Happens all the time.

Maybe it’s genetic and only effects super rich Russians. Too much of the good vodka and caviar probably triggers it. 🙂 [Wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Russian_businessmen_mystery_deaths#List_of_deaths) says 23 dead so far in “accidents.”

> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> Belarusian soldiers preparing for war:
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> [https://twitter.com/AndrewPerpetua/status/1607067284060930049](https://twitter.com/AndrewPerpetua/status/1607067284060930049)

What the hell is that? I did some time in combat and I never had to do a backflip, help another guy do a backflip or bend over with my ass sticking out so another guy could jump off my ass to do a backflip. I guess I missed out on the elite training Belarus offers.

> [@Si\_Amigo](#):
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> It’s more of a circus show than a dance. In one of the final scenes of the movie Patton, the Russian soldiers perform this very dance for General Patton to celebrate the shared victory.

Huh, learn something new every day. Looked like a really pathetic gymnastics floor exercise.

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**Author:** ![Bootb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@Bootb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootb)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2022, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1383 "2022-12-26T23:40:23Z")

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> [@mordecaiB](#):
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> What the hell is that? I did some time in combat and I never had to do a backflip, help another guy do a backflip or bend over with my ass sticking out so another guy could jump off my ass to do a backflip. I guess I missed out on the elite training Belarus offers.

They must have discovered that physical agility is the most important element to winning battles.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2022, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1384 "2022-12-26T23:41:46Z")

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> [@Bootb](#):
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> They must have discovered that physical agility is the most important element to winning battles.

IIRC, the Italian Air Force in WWII were excellent at aerobatics. Actual dogfighting… not so much.

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**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2022, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1385 "2022-12-26T23:44:44Z")

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> [@Bootb](#):
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> They must have discovered that physical agility is the most important element to winning battles.

Well, they got that wrong. Staying alive is the most important thing. Taking an enemy position while doing back flips is a good way not to stay alive. Unless the enemy is laughing so hard they drop their rifles.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2022, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1386 "2022-12-26T23:58:37Z")

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Maybe they intend to challenge the Ukrainians to a dance-off.

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2022, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1387 "2022-12-27T00:10:44Z")

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An episode of zelenskyys-zeroes?

> [@Zelenskyy's Zeroes - The Sitcom](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/zelenskyys-zeroes-the-sitcom/975330/89):
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> If you go with a Mr. T type, he can get increasingly frustrated over the course of the episode/season that thee bad guys he’s trying to beat up keep hurting themselves before he ever gets to them. Maybe he can get some release by punching out Russian washing machines.

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**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2022, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1388 "2022-12-27T00:31:32Z")

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**Simone Biles** they ain’t!

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2022, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1389 "2022-12-27T00:44:56Z")

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Is that a mall? I think Debbie Gibson and Tiffany have found the opening act for their come back tour.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2022, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1390 "2022-12-27T00:46:25Z")

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Good analysis of a complicated situation.

> **[Ukraine war: Five ways conflict could go in 2023](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63987113)**
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> As the conflict enters its second calendar year, experts predict what could happen on the ground.

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**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2022, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1391 "2022-12-27T01:47:48Z")

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Zeleneskyy can dance the pants off of any living Russian!

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2022, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1392 "2022-12-27T02:01:48Z")

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Moderating:

> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#):
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> Putin’s Russia is the modern Republicans’ endgame/wet dream.

What part of “no political swipes in breaking news threads” do you not understand?

This might merit more than a mod note, but I’m my phone on an airplane, so I’m going to ask @What_Exit to take a look.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2022, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1393 "2022-12-27T02:38:10Z")

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Lets leave it to a strong **Modnote** : **No politics in the Breaking News Thread.**

Also I hid the 2 offending posts.

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