# Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Tags:** ukraine-invasion, breaking-news\ **Created:** [October 29, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972 "2022-10-29T17:49:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 90
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1797 "2023-01-20T20:54:32Z")
A Pantsir has recently been placed on the Ministry of Defense building in Moscow. It would be great if it accidentally killed Putin. > ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1798 "2023-01-20T21:33:20Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > A Pantsir has recently been placed on the Ministry of Defense building in Moscow. It would be great if it accidentally killed Putin. I’m rather surprised it hasn’t fallen through the roof yet. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1799 "2023-01-20T21:38:13Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > Chief propagandist Solovyov prepares Russian soldiers for their upcoming deaths: And, of course, he’s going to back up his rhetoric by leading the charge, right? _Right??_ ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1800 "2023-01-20T21:45:54Z")
> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#): > > Countries like Estonia would be next up on Putin’s menu if the world allowed Russia to roll through Ukraine. Estonia would be unlikely, IMO, since it’s in NATO. Moldova would be my guess. Or Georgia. Kazakhstan has been making a little movement away from Russia recently, Putin might try to squash that too. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1801 "2023-01-20T21:50:22Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > Pantsir In a completely juvenile response, my reaction to reading this name is to keep thinking that the Russians are busy pulling everyone’s pants down around their ankles. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1802 "2023-01-20T22:25:04Z")
Pantsir? I don’t even know 'er! ---
**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1803 "2023-01-20T22:41:21Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > “_You’re an Imperial Stormtrooper, Lance, you miss **everything** _.” 🤣 😂 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1804 "2023-01-20T22:44:45Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > I also wonder how they are shipped to Europe. Are they sent on USN cargo ships with emergency priority for port logistics or does the Pentagon invite bids from Hapag-Lloyd and Evergreen and risk the long delays inherent in the current state of transoceanic shipping. > [@Al128](#): > > IIRC most of the past bang-bang-stuff was airlifted and arrived pretty soon in Ukr. Yes, the ammo mostly goes by air. Lots of seaport restrictions on ammunition shipments in both the US and Europe. Vehicles: “Vehicle Cargo Ships are Roll-On/Roll-Off (RO/RO) ships used to rapidly transport US military unit equipment such as tanks, helicopters, wheeled vehicles and other heavy equipment, to support deployed forces worldwide. These ships are normally maintained in a reduced operating status, capable of being fully activated within a few days. A nucleus crew maintains each ship, with additional crew members coming aboard for activation. The ships are activated periodically to participate in exercises and operations. The Vehicle Cargo Ships are operated by a private sector company under contract with the Military Sealift Command and crewed by U.S. Merchant Marine personnel.” [Vehicle Cargo Ships - AKR](https://www.navysite.de/akr/) And we (US) have Stinger missiles (Avenger) on the White House roof and some other DC buildings. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1805 "2023-01-20T23:07:52Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > And we (US) have Stinger missiles (Avenger) on the White House roof and some other DC buildings. If recently installed, though, it could be an indication that Moscow is feeling increasingly nervous about the distance that Ukraine is able to strike at targets in Russia. > [https://twitter.com/AlexandruC4/status/1616524830119186433](https://twitter.com/AlexandruC4/status/1616524830119186433) > > > NOELREPORTS 🇪🇺 🇺🇦 @NOELreports ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1806 "2023-01-20T23:12:58Z")
Looks like they fear their own territory will be attacked from above. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1807 "2023-01-20T23:31:53Z")
Those are all coup targets. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1808 "2023-01-20T23:56:30Z")
That, too. ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2023, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1809 "2023-01-21T01:31:10Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > A Pantsir has recently been placed on the Ministry of Defense building in Moscow. It would be great if it accidentally killed Putin. going from “_We will conquer Kiew in 3 days_” to “_We must defend Moscow against Ukr. air-attacks_” in less than a year … That - on a macro level - tells you a lot how this war is going for russia ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2023, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1810 "2023-01-21T02:27:54Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > Here’s a video of an Archer. It can arrive at a location, fire off three rounds and depart before the first round has even hit the ground, The video should be accompanied by the Willie Nelson song “On the Road Again” ---
**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2023, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1811 "2023-01-21T07:55:53Z")
US to [designate Russia’s Wagner Group](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/20/us-russia-wagner-group-transnational-criminal-organisation) as ‘transnational criminal organization’. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2023, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1812 "2023-01-21T16:06:06Z")
I’m a little surprised it wasn’t already. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2023, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1813 "2023-01-21T16:18:14Z")
Here’s a member of the Russian parliament posing with the specially-engraved Wagner sledgehammer that commemorates the execution of prisoners with sledgehammers. > ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2023, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1814 "2023-01-21T16:31:02Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Maintenance falls behind in a war. A lot of skilled people have fled the country. Or have shifted their efforts to maintaining military equipment. I’m sure the Ukrainian military is paying well for anyone who knows how to keep a helicopter flying. ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2023, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1815 "2023-01-21T18:38:19Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > > [@Tamerlane](#): > > > > It has been claimed that even chips removed from e-waste like old microwaves and **washing machines** can do the job. > > A-HA!! So there _was_ a reason for all the washing machine theft! Blame the CIA for not uncovering that threat. Once again, it takes a Doper to uncover the plot. Thumbs up to @Tamerlane, you may have just found a way to shorten the war!! > [@Al128](#): > > russian Pantsir Anti-Air-System? What the hell is even going on there? Is there a drunk guy in there or can that thing fire by itself? Target acquisition seems to be a little off. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Duality](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.duality/32/4098_2.png) [@Mr.Duality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Duality)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2023, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972/1816 "2023-01-22T10:35:25Z")
> [@mordecaiB](#): > > What the hell is even going on there? Is there a drunk guy in there or can that thing fire by itself? Target acquisition seems to be a little off. Not seeing any evidence of a drunk guy. It could pass for normal operation to my mind. It can likely fire by itself. The US has had the Phalanx system for at least 40 years. I looks for targets moving at least 150mph and radially decreasing (getting closer). It fires of its own volition. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972.md?page=89) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-2/973972.md?page=91)