# Russia probe reaches White House

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-probe-reaches-white-house/787025>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 19, 2017, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-probe-reaches-white-house/787025 "2017-05-19T19:18:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-probe-reaches-white-house/787025/21 "2017-05-19T20:51:02Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> I hope Trump is pleased with the shitty way he treated the Washington Post during the campaign, that couldn’t possibly come back to bite him. The nimrod. Those guys have been relentless. Good.

The Washington Post could never be able to investigate and report on anything that could possibly harm a president’s reputation. Never happened before, amIright?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-probe-reaches-white-house/787025/22 "2017-05-19T20:53:19Z")

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> [@quimper](#):
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> Probably his bodyguard, Keith Schiller.
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> The current theorycrafting (all unsourced, for what it’s worth) is that [he copied Comey’s computer on May 9th and handed it over to the Russians](https://patribotics.blog/2017/05/17/comeys-fbi-computer-illegally-accessed-data-given-to-russian-diplomats/).
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> [https://www.palmerreport.com/politics/computer-comey-russia/2905/](https://www.palmerreport.com/politics/computer-comey-russia/2905/)

Is this parody or conspiracy theory? So hard to tell anymore.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-probe-reaches-white-house/787025/23 "2017-05-19T21:03:08Z")

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> [@Richard\_Parker](#):
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> Jared

Does he qualify as “an official”?

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-probe-reaches-white-house/787025/24 "2017-05-19T21:06:37Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Does he qualify as “an official”?

It’s an official position. Same one as Stephen Miller holds, apparently. He’s also been put in charge of a few agencies and task forces.

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**Author:** ![skdo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@skdo23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skdo23)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-probe-reaches-white-house/787025/25 "2017-05-19T21:11:15Z")

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It depends on what the article means by “senior advisor”. Jared Kushner and Stephen Miller both hold the title of Senior Advisor to the President. However, the term is not capitalized so it could be referring to any high ranking advisor.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-probe-reaches-white-house/787025/26 "2017-05-19T21:18:20Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> The Washington Post could never be able to investigate and report on anything that could possibly harm a president’s reputation. Never happened before, amIright?

Oh, youareright! 😃  
And they keep track of lots of things, like how frequently Trump attempts to bullshit the American people:

[https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?utm\_term=.06135aec9159](https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?utm_term=.06135aec9159)

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-probe-reaches-white-house/787025/27 "2017-05-19T21:23:31Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> I hope Trump is pleased with the shitty way he treated the Washington Post during the campaign, that couldn’t possibly come back to bite him. The nimrod. Those guys have been relentless. Good.

Let’s not forget “the failing” New York Times. They’re right on his heels too.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-probe-reaches-white-house/787025/28 "2017-05-19T21:26:05Z")

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Cue the “He went to Jared!” jokes.

Yep, gotta be him. The guy who handle all the Responsible Adult stuff Pence can’t.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-probe-reaches-white-house/787025/29 "2017-05-19T21:27:07Z")

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Yes, kudos to them! I particularly enjoy, though, that Trump thought he was putting the Washington Post in their place, as though there was nothing they could do about it.  
ETA: Response to Sunny Daze

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**Author:** ![lazybratsche](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ba8739/32.png) [@lazybratsche](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lazybratsche)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-probe-reaches-white-house/787025/30 "2017-05-19T21:27:22Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Is this parody or conspiracy theory? So hard to tell anymore.

Palmer Report dances on the border between wild-assed speculation and straight out conspiracy theory.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-probe-reaches-white-house/787025/31 "2017-05-19T21:32:15Z")

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Declare the CIA, the FBI, the NYT and WaPo to be your enemies. What could possibly go wrong with that?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-probe-reaches-white-house/787025/32 "2017-05-19T21:40:55Z")

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Did they say anything about how this bodyguard guy got to Comey’s laptop? Did Comey leave it in the lobby? The nearest Starbucks?

Dollar store Tom Clancy.

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-probe-reaches-white-house/787025/33 "2017-05-19T21:44:20Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Declare the CIA, the FBI, the NYT and WaPo to be your enemies. What could possibly go wrong with that?

“Never get into an argument with someone who buys [invisible] ink by the barrel.”

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-probe-reaches-white-house/787025/34 "2017-05-19T21:46:31Z")

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Anyone else see that presser with the President of Columbazuela? It got off right away with a direct question about the Russian undressing, a pitch right over the plate which Trump smacked with a solid “No! Not just no, Hell no!”.

Did it look like a set-up to anybody else? Who was that guy, who signs his press pass? Trump knew who he was, apparently.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-probe-reaches-white-house/787025/35 "2017-05-19T21:46:33Z")

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Nobody knew it was so easy to be investigated.

One wonders when the probe will reach Trump’s, uhm, you know…

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**Author:** ![skdo23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@skdo23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/skdo23)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-probe-reaches-white-house/787025/36 "2017-05-19T21:46:49Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Declare the CIA, the FBI, the NYT and WaPo to be your enemies. What could possibly go wrong with that?

On that note:  
[https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-attacked-the-free-press-and-he-got-exactly-what-he-deserved/2017/05/19/9279366a-3c92-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c\_story.html?hpid=hp\_no-name\_opinion-card-e%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm\_term=.94cc1bf13d8b](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-attacked-the-free-press-and-he-got-exactly-what-he-deserved/2017/05/19/9279366a-3c92-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-e%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.94cc1bf13d8b)

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-probe-reaches-white-house/787025/37 "2017-05-19T21:47:25Z")

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The Russian operation to compromise the Trump administration and destabilize America’s political system has to go down as one of the greatest intelligence operations in history.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-probe-reaches-white-house/787025/38 "2017-05-19T21:53:33Z")

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I still favor the theory that Putin initially got involved to shaft Hillary, who he was pissed at for encouraging the Russian dissent movement. He was amazingly lucky, and might still have reason to regret it. He was pretty close to getting that Exxon deal up and running again, but now? Not so much.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-probe-reaches-white-house/787025/39 "2017-05-19T21:55:23Z")

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That investigations will and probably already do include persons of interest currently serving within the administration at high levels is hardly surprising. Them not would be a shock in fact.

But I am surprised that the FBI side is not be better at not having drib and drab leaks onto the newspaper blotter.

Mind you I’m not complaining, but my expectation was that there would be a period of relative quiet coming as actual serious and non-partisan investigation of possible crimes (up to and including possible “high crimes and misdemeanors”) gets done.

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**Author:** ![Tzigone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Tzigone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tzigone)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2017, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-probe-reaches-white-house/787025/40 "2017-05-19T22:00:03Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Mind you I’m not complaining, but my expectation was that there would be a period of relative quiet coming as actual serious and non-partisan investigation of possible crimes (up to and including possible “high crimes and misdemeanors”) gets done.

I was expecting leaks (from the investigatory side, not from within the White House) to dry up, as well.

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