# Russia secretly offered bounties to kill US Soldiers

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 26, 2020, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-secretly-offered-bounties-to-kill-us-soldiers/913291 "2020-06-26T23:25:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-secretly-offered-bounties-to-kill-us-soldiers/913291/21 "2020-06-27T21:33:37Z")

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But if they were also paying off Trump, then that makes him _smart_

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-secretly-offered-bounties-to-kill-us-soldiers/913291/22 "2020-06-27T23:16:00Z")

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While the NY Times makes mistakes sometimes, it seems unlikely they would run with such a big story without some corroboration. They aren’t Fox News, after all. Plus, the Trump administration is already denying that he or Pence saw the intelligence, not denying the intelligence itself. They are obviously lying, since it’s a day that ends in Y.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-secretly-offered-bounties-to-kill-us-soldiers/913291/23 "2020-06-27T23:20:29Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> Plus, the Trump administration is already denying that he or Pence saw the intelligence, not denying the intelligence itself.

Yes. The reports are quite plausible.

I’m waiting to hear how Trump’s enablers deal with this. My guess is that Lindsey Graham, MoscowMitch, and the rest, will simply ignore it. There will be no attempts at spin other than maybe ‘it’s unconfirmed’ and the like.

Truly deplorable.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-secretly-offered-bounties-to-kill-us-soldiers/913291/24 "2020-06-28T00:58:05Z")

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The latest from the Lincoln Project:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/kiDkTOKI7Ro/maxresdefault.jpg "Bounty") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiDkTOKI7Ro)

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-secretly-offered-bounties-to-kill-us-soldiers/913291/25 "2020-06-28T10:17:33Z")

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Now, the Director of National Intelligence is also claiming that neither Trump nor Pence was briefed on this murder of American troops. First of all, they’re almost certainly lying, because that’s what this administration does. However, on the tiny probability that they are telling the truth, it’s pretty bad that they are keeping such important intelligence from the president and vice president. I assume the DNI will be resigning immediately. Second, Trump and Pence now definitely know about this, so Trump took the dramatic step of…going out to play golf.

I know we have a few Trump supporters left here – care do defend this behavior, this incompetence (either at the top or at the office of the DNI)? If Trump did know about this and still tried to get Russia into the G8 summit, would you call this actual treason?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-secretly-offered-bounties-to-kill-us-soldiers/913291/26 "2020-06-28T14:10:50Z")

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Nice thing is, they can keep the logo!

[![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/fI-fGMZH6F2iykjN-L4EH6jFiwf7c9kVXUFlZgQJ5ENT4cgjNdJmO1Kf1LZ0DB5154ML1Qy1ewwHaoypButh8VKN7ke4FdH7KijBVP67kLKcvb8o3M2i-p5XzOKt5mToQ4e-Bu0nLw=w600-h315-p-k "New item by John Thornton") ](https://photos.app.goo.gl/MA2HPJZ2wNTqTi6f6)

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-secretly-offered-bounties-to-kill-us-soldiers/913291/27 "2020-06-28T14:13:33Z")

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Not a Trump supporter but were I in the Intelligence community I would be very careful what I presented to Trump because he is stupid and cant keep his mouth shut. Its better to keep secrets away from him and wait for the next President.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-secretly-offered-bounties-to-kill-us-soldiers/913291/28 "2020-06-28T14:17:37Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> Do you mean Soviets?

And the Mujahideen. The Taliban did not exist until Mohammed Omar came to power.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-secretly-offered-bounties-to-kill-us-soldiers/913291/29 "2020-06-28T14:18:38Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> I know we have a few Trump supporters left here – care do defend this behavior, this incompetence (either at the top or at the office of the DNI)? If Trump did know about this and still tried to get Russia into the G8 summit, would you call this actual treason?

Not a Trump supporter, but I know a few very vocal Trump supporters, and the defense is that this is just a lie. I don’t think that even they can manage the cognitive dissonance of applauding a man who hugs the flag while betraying our military, so they just pretend that it doesn’t exist.

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**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-secretly-offered-bounties-to-kill-us-soldiers/913291/30 "2020-06-28T14:38:11Z")

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Putin won’t just deny it, he will do so “Very strongly”.

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**Author:** ![PlaceboTarget](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/placebotarget/32/1073_2.png) [@PlaceboTarget](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlaceboTarget)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-secretly-offered-bounties-to-kill-us-soldiers/913291/31 "2020-06-28T15:07:17Z")

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Yes, both Putin and Taliban leaders deny this “strongly”, but not convincingly.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-secretly-offered-bounties-to-kill-us-soldiers/913291/32 "2020-06-28T15:39:53Z")

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Honestly, I’m surprised the U.S. military is letting people who kill their troops live long enough to collect a bounty.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-secretly-offered-bounties-to-kill-us-soldiers/913291/33 "2020-06-28T16:07:50Z")

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It’s doubtful that the actual “soldiers\*” on the ground get the payment, but the Taliban leaders.

\*I use the term “soldier” _very_ loosely.

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-secretly-offered-bounties-to-kill-us-soldiers/913291/34 "2020-06-28T18:30:02Z")

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“Silent. Weak. Controlled.”

The Lincoln Project is KILLING it on ads designed to get directly under Trump’s skin.

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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-secretly-offered-bounties-to-kill-us-soldiers/913291/35 "2020-06-28T20:07:26Z")

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This is going to shock you, but it seems that the President and others in his administration, when they denied knowing this information, seems to have been lying!

[https://scontent.fphl2-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/105865840\_10163852788680597\_3447449546169988805\_n.jpg?\_nc\_cat=104&\_nc\_sid=8024bb&\_nc\_ohc=Qzx3mbvGfsUAX-9ju0q&\_nc\_ht=scontent.fphl2-3.fna&oh=dcfea50f6ab1ba8cc3755de59f3d7d56&oe=5F1DEF25](https://scontent.fphl2-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/105865840_10163852788680597_3447449546169988805_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=Qzx3mbvGfsUAX-9ju0q&_nc_ht=scontent.fphl2-3.fna&oh=dcfea50f6ab1ba8cc3755de59f3d7d56&oe=5F1DEF25)

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-secretly-offered-bounties-to-kill-us-soldiers/913291/36 "2020-06-28T20:30:58Z")

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Not that Trump reads the briefings, Or listens to them since he can’t read. But I suspect that here we go again…

Who’s the rat? Who squealed on me? I want to know their name NOW!

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-secretly-offered-bounties-to-kill-us-soldiers/913291/37 "2020-06-28T21:25:32Z")

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I guess even his moron sycophants aides do the right thing a few times.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-secretly-offered-bounties-to-kill-us-soldiers/913291/38 "2020-06-28T21:28:59Z")

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> [@blindboyard](#):
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> A more reliable indicator that the story is untrue would be hard to imagine.

Donald Trump saying it.

See? It was easy to imagine.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-secretly-offered-bounties-to-kill-us-soldiers/913291/39 "2020-06-28T21:31:31Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> Not a Trump supporter but were I in the Intelligence community I would be very careful what I presented to Trump because he is stupid and cant keep his mouth shut. Its better to keep secrets away from him and wait for the next President.

Doesn’t really matter in this case. What’s Trump going to do? Tell Putin?

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-secretly-offered-bounties-to-kill-us-soldiers/913291/40 "2020-06-28T21:33:14Z")

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Here’s what’s being posted as a rebuttal of sorts on the Facebook pages of people I happen to know. I got a headache reading it.

> **[New York Times takes anti-Russian hysteria to new level with report on...](https://www.rt.com/op-ed/493174-nyt-report-russia-afghanistan/)**
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> The New York Times published an article claiming that Russia was paying out monetary bounties to the Taliban to kill US troops in Afghanistan. There’s just one problem — none of what they reported was true.

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