# Russia shipping Ukrainians to far-off depressed areas of Russia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-shipping-ukrainians-to-far-off-depressed-areas-of-russia/961646>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** ukraine-invasion\
**Created:** [March 24, 2022, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-shipping-ukrainians-to-far-off-depressed-areas-of-russia/961646 "2022-03-24T18:39:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-shipping-ukrainians-to-far-off-depressed-areas-of-russia/961646/41 "2022-04-04T11:11:04Z")

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> [@Kedikat](#):
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> The ongoing stability would be the best outcome.

The best outcome would be Russia being economically crippled to the point where it can’t even think about pulling this crap for the next few decades.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-shipping-ukrainians-to-far-off-depressed-areas-of-russia/961646/42 "2022-04-04T11:22:39Z")

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The _best_ outcome would be Putin and a couple hundred other Russian civilian and military officials sitting in cells for the rest of their lives after being convicted in public war-crimes trials, but of course that’s never going to realistically happen.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-shipping-ukrainians-to-far-off-depressed-areas-of-russia/961646/43 "2022-04-04T14:21:08Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> unwitting (I assume)

Why give them the benefit of the doubt?

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-shipping-ukrainians-to-far-off-depressed-areas-of-russia/961646/44 "2022-04-04T14:27:17Z")

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I’m just assuming that they are just misinformed because of their shitty news sources rather than an actual Russian troll (or Russian sympathizer) purposely spreading misinformation to further their cause.

Lord knows there are enough people around who are fooled by their shitty news source.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-shipping-ukrainians-to-far-off-depressed-areas-of-russia/961646/45 "2022-04-04T14:31:36Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> I’m just assuming that they are just misinformed because of their shitty news sources

You have to _actively_ work at getting RT nowadays, don’t you?

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-shipping-ukrainians-to-far-off-depressed-areas-of-russia/961646/46 "2022-04-04T14:41:53Z")

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I don’t think so – I just typed in [rt.com](http://rt.com) and it went right there.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-shipping-ukrainians-to-far-off-depressed-areas-of-russia/961646/47 "2022-04-04T14:56:26Z")

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> [@Kedikat](#):
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> Which parts of the “Based on this…” Do you disagree with? I put forth several things.

Sounds like you’re “just asking questions”, ala Fox News.

K: “Chocolate bars are not a superfood. Try this - it’s better. We should try new foods”

M: It looks like a piece of dog shit

K: Maybe it’s a delicious superfood! Try it!

M: It smells like dog shit. I’m pretty sure it’s dog shit.

K: We won’t know if you don’t try it! Maybe it’s better than your chocolate bar!

M: Dude, we both saw this come out of a dog’s ass. It’s dogshit, and I won’t put it in my mouth

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-shipping-ukrainians-to-far-off-depressed-areas-of-russia/961646/48 "2022-04-04T15:24:05Z")

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Aah, I was thinking of the TV channel, not the website.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-shipping-ukrainians-to-far-off-depressed-areas-of-russia/961646/49 "2022-04-04T15:41:04Z")

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> [@Kedikat](#):
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> It could have been avoided.

Please expand; by whom could “It could have been avoided,” and with what concessions? Did Ukraine violate some kind of norms by seeking to be a more democratic nation, free of control by post-Soviet Russia? Should, as John Mearsheimer (who I’m morally certain you are referencing) suggest, Ukraine have submitted to Russian security ‘oversight’ as a bipolar counterbalance to NATO? Shoudl we now eject the Baltics and maybe some of the Balkan nations from NATO to appease Putin’s need to be large and in charge? Why not just gift Poland over to whatever security alliance Russia will lead; I’m sure they won’t mind and have no memory of leading the charge against the Warsaw Pact and what it did to their economy and civil liberties. You know, all sides make good points, and the world was a pretty cozy and safe place during the Cold War, so lets wind back the clock to sequential proxy wars and pointless escalations by senile old men who are as paranoid about their domestic opponents as they are about world affairs that either might justify global nuclear conflict.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-shipping-ukrainians-to-far-off-depressed-areas-of-russia/961646/50 "2022-04-04T16:51:39Z")

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Apparently Ukraine is at fault because they goaded Russia by continuing to exist.

And now, it’s clear that all Ukranians are nazis because they did not welcome the Russian invaders. So the entire population must be exterminated.

This is the line from Russia now. Anyone who repeats Russian propaganda is in favor of genocide, and is a piece of shit.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-shipping-ukrainians-to-far-off-depressed-areas-of-russia/961646/51 "2022-04-04T16:57:06Z")

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Yeah, I’m sure if Putin secretly called up NATO and offered to split Poland and that would the end of his territorial ambitions, we should totally believe that will be the end of it and will avoid further hostilities. I’m sure that’s always worked in the past.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2022, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-shipping-ukrainians-to-far-off-depressed-areas-of-russia/961646/52 "2022-04-05T04:53:26Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Yeah, I’m sure if Putin secretly called up NATO and offered to split Poland and that would the end of his territorial ambitions,

Just offer him the Sudetenland and surely the Ukrainians will have peace in our time.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2022, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-shipping-ukrainians-to-far-off-depressed-areas-of-russia/961646/53 "2022-04-05T05:23:27Z")

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Those were historically and ethnically Russians, right? We should let them be with their people after all

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