# Russia wants to invade more of its neighbors

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**Created:** [October 25, 2023, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-wants-to-invade-more-of-its-neighbors/992078 "2023-10-25T14:04:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-wants-to-invade-more-of-its-neighbors/992078/21 "2023-10-30T00:34:39Z")

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I have that very strong feeling too, but would you risk your life for that feeling? That is Putin’s Gambit. It is working so far.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-wants-to-invade-more-of-its-neighbors/992078/22 "2023-10-30T01:22:01Z")

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My speculation is that this is a clumsy negotiation attempt. Putin is losing the war in Ukraine. So he threatens NATO. His hope is that NATO will be scared and will negotiate. Putin will then agree to not attack NATO (which he can’t do anyway) in exchange for NATO withdrawing its support of Ukraine.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-wants-to-invade-more-of-its-neighbors/992078/23 "2023-10-30T01:26:17Z")

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Nah, there’s no evidence that North Korea even has any nuclear weapons at all. They have nuclear bombs, but weapons need a delivery system, if you’re going to nuke anyone but yourself.

And even if 90% (which wouldn’t surprise me) or 99% (which would) of Russia’s arsenal is nonfunctional, their official strength is 6000 weapons. 600 nukes, or even 60, is still plenty enough to ruin a lot of folks’ day.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-wants-to-invade-more-of-its-neighbors/992078/24 "2023-10-30T01:27:43Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> My speculation is that this is a clumsy negotiation attempt.

Putin’s not that idiotic. He knows he can’t do bupkis, and he knows that NATO knows. This is purely for domestic consumption, because a lot of Russians still don’t know.

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-wants-to-invade-more-of-its-neighbors/992078/25 "2023-10-30T07:08:10Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Nah, there’s no evidence that North Korea even has any nuclear weapons at all. They have nuclear bombs, but weapons need a delivery system, if you’re going to nuke anyone but yourself.

What about the rockets they keep testing?

> **[North Korea and weapons of mass destruction](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction)**
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> North Korea has a military nuclear weapons program and, as of early 2020, is estimated to have an arsenal of approximately 30 to 40 nuclear weapons and sufficient production of fissile material for six to seven nuclear weapons per year. North Korea has also stockpiled a significant quantity of chemical and biological weapons. In 2003, North Korea withdrew from the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT). Since 2006, the country has conducted six nuclear tests at increasi Nort...

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**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-wants-to-invade-more-of-its-neighbors/992078/26 "2023-10-30T11:14:11Z")

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And after ruining 20 million people’s lives, they are guaranteed the complete annihilation of Russia as a country, along with its 150 million inhabitants, without the possibility to retaliate afterwards.

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**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-wants-to-invade-more-of-its-neighbors/992078/27 "2023-10-30T13:11:39Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> China is probably happy that Russia is getting their butts kicked, because it improves China’s negotiating position.

China is happy to take advantage of Russia’s need for cash and weapons so that they can get oil at a cheap price.

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