# Russia, with Hamas and Syria today and Turkey tomorrow.

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [May 11, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-with-hamas-and-syria-today-and-turkey-tomorrow/539076 "2010-05-11T18:20:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-with-hamas-and-syria-today-and-turkey-tomorrow/539076/41 "2010-05-18T17:59:23Z")

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This could get interesting:

[**Israel’s Intimidation Tactics Won’t Stop Us: First Ship Sets Sail for Gaza!**](http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19206)

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-with-hamas-and-syria-today-and-turkey-tomorrow/539076/42 "2010-05-18T18:19:15Z")

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> [@wmfellows](#):
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> Pretty much SOP re that interlocutor, [as past discussions have explored.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=556315) A very “special” lens through which all is viewed. Rather circus like actually.

I’m getting sick of _The **FinnAgain** and **wmfellows** Show_. You need to take your dispute to the Pit, whether it’s posting in that thread or starting a new one. That goes for both of you.

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-with-hamas-and-syria-today-and-turkey-tomorrow/539076/43 "2010-05-18T18:26:16Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> This could get interesting:
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> [**Israel’s Intimidation Tactics Won’t Stop Us: First Ship Sets Sail for Gaza!**](http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19206)

I gotta admit, some details of that article made me laugh.

> [@](#):
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> Also present (next to Matthias, in green windbreaker) is former UN Assistant Secretary-General Denis J. Halliday, who is also part of the International Advisory Panel of Perdana Global Peace Organisation, and a signatory of the Kuala Lumpur Initiative to **Criminalise War**.
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> London – At 22:45 local time tonight, the **MV Rachel Corrie** , a 1200-ton cargo ship, part of the eight-vessel Freedom Flotilla, set sail from Ireland on its way to the Mediterranean Sea. There, ships from Turkey and Greece will join her, then sail to Gaza.

[emphasis added]

I’d never heard of the “Kuala Lumpur Initiative to Criminalise War”, so I had to look it up. It is just as much a muddle-headed bit of impracticality as it sounds.

> **["The Criminalization of War" - Global Research](https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-kuala-lumpur-initiative-to-criminalise-war/1594)**
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> Text of Major Declaration following the Kuala Lumpur Peace Forum, 15-17 December 2005

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-with-hamas-and-syria-today-and-turkey-tomorrow/539076/44 "2010-05-18T18:40:35Z")

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This one’s pretty funny too:

Re: Chomsky denied entry.

[**If Israel feels it cannot survive free speech, then it is one step closer to flirting with totalitarianism.**](http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/strenger-than-fiction-israel-is-encouraging-academic-boycott-by-denying-entry-to-chomsky-1.290814)

'cause as we all know 81 year old intellectuals are a serious security risk to The State.

Tell you, the hits just keep on coming! Regular laughthon Israel is.

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-with-hamas-and-syria-today-and-turkey-tomorrow/539076/45 "2010-05-18T18:57:23Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> This one’s pretty funny too:
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> Re: Chomsky denied entry.
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> [**If Israel feels it cannot survive free speech, then it is one step closer to flirting with totalitarianism.**](http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/strenger-than-fiction-israel-is-encouraging-academic-boycott-by-denying-entry-to-chomsky-1.290814)
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> 'cause as we all know 81 year old intellectuals are a serious security risk to The State.
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> Tell you, the hits just keep on coming! Regular laughthon Israel is.

Heh, what is this, the shotgun approach to anti-Israeli bias? If one argument doesn’t hit, try another? 😃

There is no doubt that barring Chomsky is dumb, though no dumber than (say) Canada barring Galloway. Which did not IMO render Canada “totalitarian”, merely acting dumb in this instance.

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-with-hamas-and-syria-today-and-turkey-tomorrow/539076/46 "2010-05-18T19:10:03Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> This one’s pretty funny too:
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> Tell you, the hits just keep on coming! Regular laughthon Israel is.

Not half so funny as guys who evidently think war is bad without qualification (and thus ougt to be “criminalized”) supporting Islamic Jihadists.

From the declaration:

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> 1. All religious leaders must condemn war and promote peace.

Now, _that’s_ comedy gold! 😃

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-with-hamas-and-syria-today-and-turkey-tomorrow/539076/47 "2010-05-18T19:41:16Z")

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> [@Malthus](#):
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> Heh, what is this, the shotgun approach to anti-Israeli bias? If one argument doesn’t hit, try another? 😃

As a proud Token Jew I long ago gave up “arguing” anything to do with Israel with non-members of my tribe. We love to exercise; just not in futility 😉

We inform; you decide.

[**Israel Demands Europe Stop Citizens From Gaza Aid Trip**](http://news.antiwar.com/2010/05/17/israel-demands-europe-stop-citizens-from-gaza-aid-trip/)

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