# Russian ambassador assassinated in Turkey **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 19, 2016, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-ambassador-assassinated-in-turkey/775154 "2016-12-19T17:32:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-ambassador-assassinated-in-turkey/775154/1 "2016-12-19T17:32:53Z")
> **[Russian ambassador to Turkey killed in targeted attack](https://nypost.com/2016/12/19/russian-ambassador-to-turkey-shot-in-targeted-attack/)** > > A former Turkish cop assassinated Russia’s ambassador to Turkey on Monday – shouting “Allahu Akbar!” and vowing revenge for Aleppo as he fired five bullets into the diplomat’s back during an … repercussions? ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-ambassador-assassinated-in-turkey/775154/2 "2016-12-19T17:36:10Z")
None that I can imagine. Russia isn’t going to invade Turkey over an extremist act. ---
**Author:** ![arfurvirus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@arfurvirus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/arfurvirus)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-ambassador-assassinated-in-turkey/775154/3 "2016-12-19T17:36:19Z")
This is how world wars get started. Why is Turkey in NATO again? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-ambassador-assassinated-in-turkey/775154/4 "2016-12-19T17:49:38Z")
[https://twitter.com/agirecudi/status/810895589433049090?ref\_src=twsrc^tfw](https://twitter.com/agirecudi/status/810895589433049090?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) is a video of the shooting, for the morbidly curious. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-ambassador-assassinated-in-turkey/775154/5 "2016-12-19T17:51:34Z")
Depends on who Putin blames. ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-ambassador-assassinated-in-turkey/775154/6 "2016-12-19T17:56:49Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/agirecudi/status/810895589433049090?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) is a video of the shooting, for the morbidly curious. The comments say the assassin was a Turkish policeman… ---
**Author:** ![chizzuk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@chizzuk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chizzuk)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-ambassador-assassinated-in-turkey/775154/7 "2016-12-19T17:58:09Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > None that I can imagine. Russia isn’t going to invade Turkey over an extremist act. Extremist? It was apparently a Turkish special ops police officer on the security detail, not an attacker who busted in off the street. Maybe he was an undercover terrorist, but the narrative is there for the Russians if they want it. Especially since the Turks have been so busy purging anyone with a hint of being anti-Erdogan but apparently overlooked this guy. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-ambassador-assassinated-in-turkey/775154/8 "2016-12-19T18:01:23Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > The comments say the assassin was a Turkish policeman… That’s what I’ve read elsewhere. Turkish policeman, appears to be radicalized Muslim. He got lit up and is now dead too. The source I saw listed his information like this: Mevlüt Mert Altintas Ankara Riot police Born 1994 Graduate from Izmir police school but I have no way of confirming any of that. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-ambassador-assassinated-in-turkey/775154/9 "2016-12-19T18:06:27Z")
What I heard on MSNBC was that he was a cop, but not on duty, so he wasn’t supposed to be there. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-ambassador-assassinated-in-turkey/775154/10 "2016-12-19T18:06:41Z")
Ahhh, shit > > [@](#): > > Ankara, #Turkey - ongoing security incident near US Embassy. All US citizens should avoid area near Embassy compound until further notice. [x.com](https://twitter.com/TravelGov/status/810907879431610369) says, “Reports of shooting near US Embassy Ankara” ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-ambassador-assassinated-in-turkey/775154/11 "2016-12-19T18:23:06Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Ahhh, shit > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/TravelGov/status/810900465336598528/photo/1) > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/TravelGov/status/810907879431610369) says, “Reports of shooting near US Embassy Ankara” They are saying that it’s the same shooting. The embassy is near where the ambassador was assassinated. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-ambassador-assassinated-in-turkey/775154/12 "2016-12-19T18:23:47Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > They are saying that it’s the same shooting. The embassy is near where the ambassador was assassinated. Ahhh, thanks for the clarification. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-ambassador-assassinated-in-turkey/775154/13 "2016-12-19T18:24:48Z")
Any word from Russia yet? Are they mad at Turkey? ISIS? Both? ---
**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-ambassador-assassinated-in-turkey/775154/14 "2016-12-19T18:34:28Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Any word from Russia yet? Are they mad at Turkey? ISIS? Both? From what I have seen in the news, this is not ISIS, since the gunman was ranting about Aleppo. AFAIU ISIS is not a big player in Aleppo. ---
**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-ambassador-assassinated-in-turkey/775154/15 "2016-12-19T18:40:59Z")
According to the BBC newsfeed (available here: [Live: Russian ambassador shot dead in Turkey - BBC News](http://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-europe-38370362) ), Erdogan and Putin were talking shortly after the attack, and a Russian spokesman said that this would not affect the relationship between Russia and Turkey: > [@BBC](#): > > Russia: No weakening of ties with Turkey > > BBC Monitoring > News from around the globe > Posted at > 19:22 > “There will be no fresh cooling in relations between Moscow and Ankara, no matter how strongly our strategic opponents in Ankara and the West want this,” said Leonid Slutsky, who heads the international affairs committee of the Russian Duma. > > “This is not going to happen. There are differences between us. It’s a horrendous tragedy, but relations between our states will not suffer.” > > * * * > > Erdogan and Putin speak on the phone - reports > Posted at > 19:29 > Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has spoken on the phone with his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin after the shooting, Reuters reports, quoting CNN Turk. So, I guess that this will not particularly affect Russia-Turkey relations… And, given how Russia tends to react to these things, very likely there will be massive retaliatory bombardment of Aleppo and other rebel-held areas courtesy of the Russian military in Syria. Whoever this idiot was, his killing the Russian ambassador will only increase by a LOT the suffering on the ground in Syria. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-ambassador-assassinated-in-turkey/775154/16 "2016-12-19T18:42:28Z")
> [@Okrahoma](#): > > From what I have seen in the news, this is not ISIS, since the gunman was ranting about Aleppo. AFAIU ISIS is not a big player in Aleppo. Maybe it is ISIL. Totally different thing. ---
**Author:** ![TheSeaOtter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ed655f/32.png) [@TheSeaOtter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheSeaOtter)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-ambassador-assassinated-in-turkey/775154/17 "2016-12-19T18:50:47Z")
> [@arfurvirus](#): > > This is how world wars get started. > Why is Turkey in NATO again? World wars start when there are nations who want to fight world wars. The actual ‘triggering events’ are a pretext. If Turkey shooting down a Russian plane didn’t kick off a war, I think that’s pretty good evidence that they don’t want to fight that badly, and thus this incident will likewise be smoothed over. ---
**Author:** ![TheSeaOtter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ed655f/32.png) [@TheSeaOtter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheSeaOtter)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-ambassador-assassinated-in-turkey/775154/18 "2016-12-19T18:57:19Z")
Additional developing stories: CNN: Shooting near Zurich Islamic Center - three people injured, described as ‘ongoing incident’ > **[Three people wounded in Zurich Islamic center shooting | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2016/12/19/europe/zurich-islamic-center-shooting)** > > Three people were injured in a shooting at an Islamic center in Zurich, Switerland. RT: Police lockdown in Brussels. [https://www.rt.com/news/370804-brussels-lockdown-searches-police/](https://www.rt.com/news/370804-brussels-lockdown-searches-police/) ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-ambassador-assassinated-in-turkey/775154/19 "2016-12-19T20:09:26Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > Depends on who Putin blames. > [@Okrahoma](#): > > The comments say the assassin was a Turkish policeman… The [alt-right Alex Jones etc. crazies](https://www.google.com/search?q=russian+ambassador+false+flag&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=russian+ambassador+assassination+false+flag) are already saying this is a false flag op by either Obama or Erdogan. [Vladimir Zhirinovsky](http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-ambassador-shooting-turkey-nato-security-services-andrey-karlov-a7485296.html) is already blaming it on NATO. I’m sure President-elect Trump will have a reasonable, well considered response. Not. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2016, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-ambassador-assassinated-in-turkey/775154/20 "2016-12-19T20:13:28Z")
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