# Russian olympians are teh eeeeevil!!!!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [November 9, 2015, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-olympians-are-teh-eeeeevil/737136 "2015-11-09T20:36:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-olympians-are-teh-eeeeevil/737136/21 "2015-11-10T16:46:09Z")
Even with the political component, this is best suited to The Game Room. I’ll relocate it. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-olympians-are-teh-eeeeevil/737136/22 "2015-11-10T16:57:33Z")
> [@Diceman](#): > > 1. The World Anti-Doping Agency is run by the International Olympic Committee. When it comes to corruption, those guys are right up there with the United Nations, and I wouldn’t trust them to give me the correct time of day. If they are corrupt, wouldn’t they be more likely to \*favor \*the Russians? ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-olympians-are-teh-eeeeevil/737136/23 "2015-11-10T17:39:31Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > If they are corrupt, wouldn’t they be more likely to \*favor \*the Russians? Nothing is how it seems in conspiracy-land. As it happens of course WADA is not run by the IOC, it has equal representation from Governments but of course I’m sure that’ll just be taken as even more evidence of an anti-Russian conspiracy. Never mind the fact that the original evidence came from an independent media investigation in Germany, obviously they must be government shills as well. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-olympians-are-teh-eeeeevil/737136/24 "2015-11-10T17:50:36Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > This comes as no surprise to anyone who has watched Rocky IV. Or [Top Secret!](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/aHBbInxJ4Is/hqdefault.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![jsquire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ce73a5/32.png) [@jsquire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsquire)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2015, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-olympians-are-teh-eeeeevil/737136/25 "2015-11-10T20:31:29Z")
For an offshoot of a newspaper column that deals entirely with facts, people on this board tend to spout off without actually doing much reading. There’s a ton of information in the report, but CNN summarizes the five most damning things: > **[Russia doping scandal: 5 of the most shocking allegations | CNN](https://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/10/sport/russia-doping-report-shocking-things/)** > > A stunning report this week has rocked the athletics world with detailed allegations of a state-sponsored doping program in Russia. It’s not that a lot of Russians broke the rules, it’s that Russia’s entire system was in violation of international anti-doping regulations. For example, when you are supplied with false documents so as to hide your identity from drug testers while abroad, it goes beyond individual actors. The whole thing came from a few fed-up Rusdian athletes who went “Deep Throat” to Germam journalist Hajo Seppelt, the Woodward/ernstein in this story. The end result was a commission set up under one of the few relatively honest men in the IOC, and here you go. There is, however, a lot more coming. Anything currently under investigation by Interpol and/or French authorities was redacted. Yes, the Russians are far from the only violators but they are likely the only ones doing it on a national, almost industrial level. ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-olympians-are-teh-eeeeevil/737136/26 "2015-11-19T00:29:30Z")
> [@Diceman](#): > > 1. Given recent events in global politics, surely I’m not the only person who finds the timing of this report a bit suspicious? Have we started the Cold War, Part II? This is what I’m thinking. The US ain’t done jack s— about ISIS, and can’t allow Russia to upstage them, so, they just put a little pressure on the IOC, and, voila! “Who’s ISIS? What we really need to focus on is Russia in the Olympics of 3 years ago!” > [@](#): > > 1. Why did it take World Anti-Doping Agency 3 years to come to this conclusion? Italian murder trials take place in less time than that. This is hilarious. > [@](#): > > 1. The World Anti-Doping Agency is run by the International Olympic Committee. When it comes to corruption, those guys are right up there with the United Nations, and I wouldn’t trust them to give me the correct time of day. I seem to recall them being real bastards about something in…88? Something really petulant and childish…can’t remember what. Also, didn’t they also change some rules quite idiotically and arbitrarily around that time? Can’t remember…grr… 4) The sanctions being advocated seem rather harsh (“Kick the Russians out of the 2016 Olympics !!!”) I suppose we’ve forgotten about the cheating scandals that have occurred after pretty much every Olympics in modern times. Have I forgetten about when we banned France from the Olympics after that judging scandal? Or banned China from gymnastics for sending girls that were almost certainly well under the minimum age (16 years old)? [/QUOTE] They don’t count…they aren’t rubbing Obama’s nose in anything, or crossing Biden on oil deals… ---
**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-olympians-are-teh-eeeeevil/737136/27 "2015-11-19T01:28:22Z")
[Doping threatens Kenya’s credibility at Rio Olympics: Rudisha’s coach](http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/15/us-athletics-kenya-doping-idUSKCN0T410G20151115) > [@](#): > > This week, Kenyan Olympic Committee chairman Kipchoge Keino warned that the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) was “seriously considering” banning Kenya from track and field for four years. > > Athletics Kenya said it had received no written threat of sanctions. There must be a conspiracy motivating this too. Maybe it’s birthers on the US Olympic Committee going after Obama. ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-olympians-are-teh-eeeeevil/737136/28 "2015-11-19T10:40:38Z")
Ok, I’ve got a question. What if doping was allowed and everyone was just expected to do it? I mean isnt there a limit on its advantages? ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-olympians-are-teh-eeeeevil/737136/29 "2015-11-19T15:18:21Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Ok, I’ve got a question. > > What if doping was allowed and everyone was just expected to do it? > > I mean isnt there a limit on its advantages? [Here’s](http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/update-all-drug-olympics/n9691) what happens. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-olympians-are-teh-eeeeevil/737136/30 "2015-11-19T15:47:53Z")
The suggestion that a WADA report is somehow evidence of an intergovernmental conspiracy would be amusing, except that this isn’t the YouTube comments section. Are you people fucking serious? ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-olympians-are-teh-eeeeevil/737136/31 "2015-11-19T16:16:25Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > The suggestion that a WADA report is somehow evidence of an intergovernmental conspiracy would be amusing, except that this isn’t the YouTube comments section. Are you people fucking serious? The truth! boring gullible people into creating fantasies since 1428. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2015, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-olympians-are-teh-eeeeevil/737136/32 "2015-11-19T18:39:54Z")
> [@Diceman](#): > > Have we started the Cold War, Part II? I for one look forward to a Civil War between Russia and the IOC. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-olympians-are-teh-eeeeevil/737136.md?page=1)