# Russian sub stuck on sea floor **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 6, 2005, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-sub-stuck-on-sea-floor/315867 "2005-08-06T10:33:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2005, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-sub-stuck-on-sea-floor/315867/1 "2005-08-06T10:33:37Z")
I figured there must be a thread on this somewhere… so forgive me if I’m duplicating (and lock if necessary) but I can’t find it. Anyway, latest news is that the American and British cargo planes carrying unmanned rescue vehicles have arrived. I haven’t heard much about the capability of the British vehicle, but the American one claims to be able to cut through steel cables. It looks like the story of what is keeping it down there is changing now… > [@](#): > > Although initial reports said the propeller of the sub, an AS-28, became stuck on some fishing nets or cable, Interfax later reported the sub was fitted with a coastal observation aerial, held to the ocean floor by at least one anchor. > > The apparatus is keeping the sub from rising, and Interfax said the anchors were to be blown up. An earlier plan to cut the antenna and anchors apparently was abandoned. It was unclear whether a fishing net or cable was also involved. I can’t really picture what exactly they’re talking about… the sub is stuck because it can’t get loose of an anchor? Hopefully once one of the robotic subs gets down there they can figure out what’s going on, and do something about it. Here’s the latest CNN [story](http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/08/06/russia.sea/index.html) As of 4 a.m. ET the Russians are saying the crew has about 24 hours of oxygen left (that number has been bouncing around, but obviously time is of the essence). Let’s hope for the best… ---
**Author:** ![Spatial\_Rift\_47](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a8b319/32.png) [@Spatial\_Rift\_47](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spatial_Rift_47)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2005, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-sub-stuck-on-sea-floor/315867/2 "2005-08-06T12:39:46Z")
> [@zuma](#): > > **Russian sub stuck on sea floor** Again? Didn’t this happen just a few years ago with the Kursk? These Ruskies need to get their subs straightened out. ---
**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2005, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-sub-stuck-on-sea-floor/315867/3 "2005-08-06T12:57:02Z")
[Here’s](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4125674.stm) the BBC report of the incident, which mentions the Kursk sub. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2005, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-sub-stuck-on-sea-floor/315867/4 "2005-08-07T03:55:02Z")
Supposedly, [it’s up.](http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050807/ap_on_re_eu/russia_navy_accident) No news yet on how they’re doing, though. ---
**Author:** ![Nic2004](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/4491bb/32.png) [@Nic2004](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nic2004)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2005, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-sub-stuck-on-sea-floor/315867/5 "2005-08-07T04:04:50Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > Supposedly, [it’s up.](http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050807/ap_on_re_eu/russia_navy_accident) No news yet on how they’re doing, though. Thank you for that link in this late hour. I’ve been trying to follow this a hoping for a happy ending. Nice to hear just before going to sleep. Now to get the shuttle home safe. Night. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2005, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-sub-stuck-on-sea-floor/315867/6 "2005-08-07T04:14:54Z")
[http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050807/ap\_on\_re\_eu/russia\_navy\_accident;\_ylt=AkjmMes8yALhFEV.8UPfJXKs0NUE;\_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050807/ap_on_re_eu/russia_navy_accident;_ylt=AkjmMes8yALhFEV.8UPfJXKs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--) > [@](#): > > Russian Sub Surfaces; All Seven Crew Alive By VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV, Associated Press Writer > 2 minutes ago > > PETROPAVLOVSK-KAMCHATSKY, Russia - Seven crew members aboard a Russian mini-submarine trapped for three days beneath the Pacific Ocean were pulled to safety Sunday after a British remote-controlled vehicle cut away the undersea cables that had snarled it, Russian naval officials said. Great job from the UK team! [http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/08/06/international/i184701D37.DTL](http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/08/06/international/i184701D37.DTL) > [@](#): > > A British remote-controlled vehicle on Sunday cut away the cables that had snarled a Russian mini-submarine and its seven-man crew deep under the Pacific Ocean, and rescuers were preparing for the sub to surface, a naval spokesman said. > Capt. Igor Dygalo told The Associated Press that the Super Scorpio had freed the mini-sub from the military antenna that had tangled it some 625 feet below the surface. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2005, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-sub-stuck-on-sea-floor/315867/7 "2005-08-07T04:19:01Z")
So cool. Yeah Brits. People learning to work together. May be some hope for this world yet. Glad Russian were quick to ask for help. Glad UK, USA and Japan were quick to respond. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2005, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-sub-stuck-on-sea-floor/315867/8 "2005-08-07T05:00:49Z")
So why the Russians had no rescue sub right there? Becouse the Priz submersible is their rescue vehicle itself! :smack: [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4128614.stm](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4128614.stm) ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2005, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-sub-stuck-on-sea-floor/315867/9 "2005-08-07T05:06:17Z")
> [@jrfranchi](#): > > So cool. Yeah Brits. People learning to work together. May be some hope for this world yet. Glad Russian were quick to ask for help. Glad UK, USA and Japan were quick to respond. That’s the key…asking for help immediately! The final threads of the Iron Curtain have fallen. Welcome back to the daylight, guys! ---
**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2005, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-sub-stuck-on-sea-floor/315867/10 "2005-08-07T12:39:38Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > That’s the key…asking for help immediately! The final threads of the Iron Curtain have fallen. > > Welcome back to the daylight, guys! Yes, with the Kursk inciedent they delayed asking for help then cynically lied about the incident. But more recently [Russia learns lessons of Kursk disaster](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3194257.stm) ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2005, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-sub-stuck-on-sea-floor/315867/11 "2005-08-07T14:00:53Z")
Yah! A real feel-ggod story! ---
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2005, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-sub-stuck-on-sea-floor/315867/12 "2005-08-07T15:03:02Z")
Right on. Seems like most news reports and stories have grave endings these days. Nice to see things work out with happy endings and all for once 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2005, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-sub-stuck-on-sea-floor/315867/13 "2005-08-07T15:06:57Z")
My wife, caught on the news, 6 of the 7 crewman have already been released from the Hospital. No word on the 7th yet. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2005, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-sub-stuck-on-sea-floor/315867/14 "2005-08-07T17:49:45Z")
So how does a sub get tangled up in a fishing net to begin with? Ivylad was a sonar tech in the Navy and ain’t no way in hell a fishing net was going to stop one of those babies. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2005, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-sub-stuck-on-sea-floor/315867/15 "2005-08-07T17:51:17Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > So how does a sub get tangled up in a fishing net to begin with? Ivylad was a sonar tech in the Navy and ain’t no way in hell a fishing net was going to stop one of those babies. It was a small rescue sub, not a war vessel. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2005, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-sub-stuck-on-sea-floor/315867/16 "2005-08-07T18:13:19Z")
I bet the skipper has not heard the last of this! ---
**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2005, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-sub-stuck-on-sea-floor/315867/17 "2005-08-07T18:52:12Z")
**jrfranchi** \* It was a small **rescue sub** , not a war vessel.\* Talk about irony. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2005, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-sub-stuck-on-sea-floor/315867/18 "2005-08-07T18:53:37Z")
How long do you think it will be before any of the crew can enter a closet with the shakes? ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2005, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-sub-stuck-on-sea-floor/315867/19 "2005-08-07T19:59:16Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > That’s the key…asking for help immediately! The final threads of the Iron Curtain have fallen. > > Welcome back to the daylight, guys! Welcome back to the world of air and sunshine, guys. I hate to highjack, but the “final threads of the iron curtain” are nowhere even close to falling. In fact, Putin seems to be trying to reweave the thing out of whole fabric and put it right back in place.