# Russian "Whites" propaganda poster imagery question

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**Created:** [October 26, 2016, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-whites-propaganda-poster-imagery-question/769742 "2016-10-26T00:39:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![rat\_avatar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rat_avatar/32/255_2.png) [@rat\_avatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rat_avatar)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-whites-propaganda-poster-imagery-question/769742/1 "2016-10-26T00:39:47Z")

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While going to moving sales and antique stores looking for a small library card catalog for my lab I ended up buying an original ~1920 Russian Whites propaganda poster which is called Vozmezdie (Retribution).

While I understand most of the imagery I am confused by one portion.

The poster depicts the Russian nationalists driving numerous Bolshevik leaders to hell. Here is a link to an image from the British Library.

[http://www.bl.uk/learning/images/Campaign\_MAI/posters/large92587.html](http://www.bl.uk/learning/images/Campaign_MAI/posters/large92587.html)

The portion of the poster that confuses me is the man sitting on the knee of the devil with a white sack labeled “30”.

What is in the sack, whom is this person and what is the intended meaning of him sitting on he devils knee?

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-whites-propaganda-poster-imagery-question/769742/2 "2016-10-26T00:48:24Z")

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Shot in the dark: Judas?

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**Author:** ![Sterling\_Archer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Sterling\_Archer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sterling_Archer)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-whites-propaganda-poster-imagery-question/769742/3 "2016-10-26T00:55:22Z")

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30 pieces of silver was the reward for betraying Jesus

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-whites-propaganda-poster-imagery-question/769742/4 "2016-10-26T01:40:08Z")

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Judas Iscariot, by Duran Duran

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**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-whites-propaganda-poster-imagery-question/769742/5 "2016-10-26T01:52:03Z")

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Thank you,

I am not sure why I didn’t think of Judas.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-whites-propaganda-poster-imagery-question/769742/6 "2016-10-26T04:05:08Z")

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> [@rat\_avatar](#):
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> whom is this person

who

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**Post date:** [October 26, 2016, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russian-whites-propaganda-poster-imagery-question/769742/7 "2016-10-26T04:37:32Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> who

Your incomplete sentence and lack of punctuation have been duly noted. 🙂
