# Rutgers paying Snooki $30K to speak **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 2, 2011, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rutgers-paying-snooki-30k-to-speak/576966 "2011-04-02T20:04:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rutgers-paying-snooki-30k-to-speak/576966/41 "2011-04-03T22:14:44Z")
So in reality , she is only going to make 16 k after taxes Declan ---
**Author:** ![cuauhtemoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@cuauhtemoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuauhtemoc)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rutgers-paying-snooki-30k-to-speak/576966/42 "2011-04-03T22:22:58Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > The generation that elected Obama wants to hear a speech from a mush-brained bimbo from NJ! > A good indication of the future course of this country!:D:smack: Speaking of mushy-brainedness, if you’d think about it for five seconds, you’d realize that roughly half the undergraduate student body at Rutgers would’ve been below voting age in 2008. I think you’re getting senile, **ralph**. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rutgers-paying-snooki-30k-to-speak/576966/43 "2011-04-03T22:45:31Z")
> [@Southern\_Yankee](#): > > RU '89 \ > > \ You know, I probably had to check your Pub-Card at one of the Pubs. Just one of a thousand girls who looked Absolutely Amazing in person but looked like they just got told they were pregnant or failing out in the picture on their Pub-Card. Before you accuse me, take a look at yourself… Before you accuse me, take a look at yourself… That DOT pic in your wallet honey, It sure do look like someone else… ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rutgers-paying-snooki-30k-to-speak/576966/44 "2011-04-03T22:53:27Z")
> [@Count\_Blucher](#): > > You know, I probably had to check your Pub-Card at one of the Pubs. Just one of a thousand girls who looked Absolutely Amazing in person but looked like they just got told they were pregnant or failing out in the picture on their Pub-Card. > > Before you accuse me, take a look at yourself… > Before you accuse me, take a look at yourself… > That DOT pic in your wallet honey, > It sure do look like someone else… I can’t tell if you think I’m female, but I’m not. I never had a pub card, nor know what one is. Just a regular, run of the mill, fake driver’s license. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rutgers-paying-snooki-30k-to-speak/576966/45 "2011-04-03T23:09:12Z")
> [@ZipperJJ](#): > > I don’t get the outcry either, really. She’s not doing the commencement speech. Seems like her appearance is just on the same level as getting a comedian to perform or paying for a performer like Katy Perry. Usually quality schools get CEOs or heads of state or people who have made great accomplishments to speak at commencement. They get comedians or Katy Perry for homecoming or Seniors week or whatever. Then again, it’s Rutgers, not Princeton. > [@CalMeacham](#): > > I spent plenty of time time down at Seaside, and those characteristic expressions and attiudes weren’t there until the show aired\*. So the State University of New Jersey is gonna be paying an out-of-stater who’ll talk about ersatz Jersey culture. It’s a perfect match. > \*Now, of course, it’s all over the place. One of the things I love to see at the Jerse Shore every summer is which current pop culture trend it’s going to rip off and sell without paying royalties. Nonsense. My friends and I used to have a house in Belmar in the mid to late 90s and the place was full of guidos and juice heads. I just think everyone in NJ says “we ain’t like that!” because to them it’s all just normal. ---
**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rutgers-paying-snooki-30k-to-speak/576966/46 "2011-04-03T23:15:00Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > Nonsense. My friends and I used to have a house in Belmar in the mid to late 90s and the place was full of guidos and juice heads. I just think everyone in NJ says “we ain’t like that!” because to them it’s all just normal. Absolutely. My shore days were mostly in the mid/late 80s and I knew plenty of people who would have fit right in on _Jersey Shore_. Plenty. ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2011, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rutgers-paying-snooki-30k-to-speak/576966/47 "2011-04-03T23:37:42Z")
> [@cuauhtemoc](#): > > Speaking of mushy-brainedness, if you’d think about it for five seconds, you’d realize that roughly half the undergraduate student body at Rutgers would’ve been below voting age in 2008. I think you’re getting senile, **ralph**. This is an ad hominem attack! I expect this to be dealt with, with the most severe punishments available!:mad: ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rutgers-paying-snooki-30k-to-speak/576966/48 "2011-04-04T01:11:22Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > This is not the comment of someone who is befuddled, flummoxed and bewildered. Or are you really going to spin this as an ingenuous inquiry into Snooki’s act? > > PS: haters gonna hate is a slang phrase meaning some people are gonna hate you regardless so give their opinion the attention it deserves(none to almost none) and move on. I don’t hate her, that would require more effort that I’m willing to spend on her. And I really dislike that “haters gonna hate” thing, again it implies that I care enough about her to hate her. Not sure why you think I can’t actually be confused about the appeal of her “act”. I’ve passed this show when changing channels and tried to watch to see the appeal and never could stand more than a minute or two. Most of it is unintelligible and they have to caption it. I’ve also seen plenty of clips of the show and seen the “stars” on various talk shows. I never found any of them even vaguely interesting. So yes, I am totally confused why anyone would want to watch them for free on TV, let alone spend $32,000 dollars to hear one of them give a talk. > [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > But that is what she does on the show. Why is it such a weird comment? If he was asking about some actress with a tawdry off screen persona, it would be insulting, but that’s Snooki’s shtick. Get drunk, look for gorilla juice heads, make comment on her vagina, fall over, lather, rinse, repeat. > [@VinylTurnip](#): > > The word “hate” has been rendered meaningless by its relentless application toward any form of criticism, regardless of how richly deserved it may be. Also, what they said. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rutgers-paying-snooki-30k-to-speak/576966/49 "2011-04-04T01:18:35Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > You missed the point. Students at this school are FORCED to pay into a slush fund for partying. Then the students should take it up with whatever organization is in charge of selecting entertainment. If they don’t, I would assume they had a perfectly wonderful time with her. Why do you begrudge students their relaxation? > [@VinylTurnip](#): > > The word “hate” has been rendered meaningless by its relentless application toward any form of criticism, regardless of how richly deserved it may be. Translation: People aren’t giving my opinion the consideration I think it deserves so I will pout. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rutgers-paying-snooki-30k-to-speak/576966/50 "2011-04-04T01:32:51Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > Usually quality schools get CEOs or heads of state or people who have made great accomplishments to speak at commencement. They get comedians or Katy Perry for homecoming or Seniors week or whatever. > > Then again, it’s Rutgers, not Princeton. Yeah, and according to the article, Snooki is **NOT SPEAKING AT COMMENCEMENT**. Toni Morrison is. This is JUST an entertainment thing, paid for by the student entertainment budget, for the entertainment of students. ---
**Author:** ![kittenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@kittenblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kittenblue)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rutgers-paying-snooki-30k-to-speak/576966/51 "2011-04-04T01:55:09Z")
But once again…what exactly will she DO as entertainment? ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rutgers-paying-snooki-30k-to-speak/576966/52 "2011-04-04T02:05:46Z")
Stupid Rutgers kids, could have got a couple bands _and_ a club DJ, had a real party. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rutgers-paying-snooki-30k-to-speak/576966/53 "2011-04-04T02:32:38Z")
> [@](#): > > Nonsense. My friends and I used to have a house in Belmar in the mid to late 90s and the place was full of guidos and juice heads. I just think everyone in NJ says “we ain’t like that!” because to them it’s all just normal. nonsense back at you. I never heard “guidos” used as a common description at the Jersey Shore until that show came out. You sure as hell didn’t see it on the beachwear. “Gym, Tan, Laundry”? Ditto. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rutgers-paying-snooki-30k-to-speak/576966/54 "2011-04-04T02:59:14Z")
“GTL” is definitely something that the boys from Jersey Shore made up, and I don’t think they’ve ever claimed that it was a common phrase outside of their group. As for guidos…I definitely had heard the term before the show. I remember looking online at sites that made fun of those sorts of guys, marveling at their tans and “bling.” Maybe the term took off more with MySpace, where dudes were posting a lot of pics of themselves. I think I first read about it on [Hot Chicks with Douchebags](http://hotchickswithdouchebags.com/) (which did not originate the term “guido”, I’m just saying I probably learned it there.) ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rutgers-paying-snooki-30k-to-speak/576966/55 "2011-04-04T05:05:24Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Then the students should take it up with whatever organization is in charge of selecting entertainment. If they don’t, I would assume they had a perfectly wonderful time with her. Why do you begrudge students their relaxation? > . The students should take it up with the university for forcing them to pay a fee that has ZERO to do with their education. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rutgers-paying-snooki-30k-to-speak/576966/56 "2011-04-04T05:34:11Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Translation: People aren’t giving my opinion the consideration I think it deserves so I will pout. Translation: I can’t actually argue with the statement because it’s true, but I can sure use words like “pout” and “haters” to throw ad hominem attacks. “Haters gonna hate” is used so that you don’t have to address why the person is criticizing you or your views. It’s the stuff used on deviantart where you can get banned for criticizing someone’s art. It’s entire purpose is to coddle people who can’t take criticism. It belittles the person making the argument, so they can justify not listening to them. It’s ignorant B.S., and, on this message board, we don’t have to put up with it. If you want to fight ignorance, you have to listen to dissenting views. BTW: I’m pretty sure that, knowing a lot of college aged students, Snooki is being invited “ironically.” Everyone in that age bracket knows it’s stupid, but stupid is cool right now (ala the hipster movement). Heck, even the fact that so many people would get upset by it is probably a bonus. It’s all just a big joke to them. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rutgers-paying-snooki-30k-to-speak/576966/57 "2011-04-04T16:46:14Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Translation: People aren’t giving my opinion the consideration I think it deserves so I will pout. Translation… actually, I have no idea what this means. In an alternate historical timeline, discussion boards teem with pro-Hitler fanboys saying “dont listen 2 the haterz, Adolf!” and “ok u think u can do better, lets hear UR final solution!!@” ---
**Author:** ![cuauhtemoc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecb155/32.png) [@cuauhtemoc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cuauhtemoc)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rutgers-paying-snooki-30k-to-speak/576966/58 "2011-04-04T17:20:04Z")
Hitler would have been just fine with paying Snooki $32K for a speech, I’m certain of it. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rutgers-paying-snooki-30k-to-speak/576966/59 "2011-04-04T17:22:26Z")
> [@ZipperJJ](#): > > Yeah, and according to the article, Snooki is **NOT SPEAKING AT COMMENCEMENT**. Toni Morrison is. > > This is JUST an entertainment thing, paid for by the student entertainment budget, for the entertainment of students. Oh. Then who cares? That’s what the entertainment budget is for. > [@ZipperJJ](#): > > “GTL” is definitely something that the boys from Jersey Shore made up, and I don’t think they’ve ever claimed that it was a common phrase outside of their group. > > As for guidos…I definitely had heard the term before the show. I remember looking online at sites that made fun of those sorts of guys, marveling at their tans and “bling.” Maybe the term took off more with MySpace, where dudes were posting a lot of pics of themselves. I think I first read about it on Hot Chicks with Douchebags (which did not originate the term “guido”, I’m just saying I probably learned it there.) I’ve heard the term “guido” used since the 80s. Back then a guido typically drove an IROC-Z, wore gold chains, Z Cavaricci pants and one of those “8 Ball” leather jackets. The term “grenade” is an old one as well. At least since the early 90s. I don’t know if the show ever explains the technical meaning. Basically, when you and your friends are trying to get with a group of girls, there is usually one who is some combination of ugly, fat or unpleasent. She is a “grenade” because some poor unfortunate hero is going to have to “jump on her” and sacrifice himself for the rest of the squad. The usage has been expanded, however, to include any ugly, fat or unpleasent girls or to disparage the overal quality of the venue (e.g. “This place is full of grenades.”) ---
**Author:** ![Gus\_Gusterson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85f322/32.png) [@Gus\_Gusterson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gus_Gusterson)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rutgers-paying-snooki-30k-to-speak/576966/60 "2011-04-04T20:11:44Z")
> [@Mr.Excellent](#): > > Wouldn’t there have to be? I mean, the real woman must have some capacity for thoughtfulness, planning - at the very least, the ability to solicit, evaluate and accept good business advice. She needs a brain - has she displayed one on Jersey Shore? If not, this suggests she’s playing a role on that program. She surely has nothing to do with booking her appearances. She has a manager and an agent, among other people who handle her business affairs. She doesn’t have to do anything but show up to her appearances and her manager probably makes sure she does that, too. She’s probably getting half or less of the $32,000 after she pays all of the people who handle her affairs, and that’s _before_ paying taxes on her cut. She is a product being pushed by people who know how to exploit her fame. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rutgers-paying-snooki-30k-to-speak/576966.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rutgers-paying-snooki-30k-to-speak/576966.md?page=4)