# Ryan and the congressional Republicans to investigate the FBI.

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 6, 2016, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229 "2016-07-06T16:23:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/61 "2016-07-07T16:26:35Z")

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I just yelled out an “Atta girl!” to the representative from the Virgin Island, who just stated she wishes this were an investigation into the use of lethal force by LEOs. Brava.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/62 "2016-07-07T16:56:15Z")

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No doubt well intended, but Great Googly-Moogly, one huge goddam problem at a time!

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/63 "2016-07-07T17:17:53Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Well, we’ve had all the investigations, so it’s now time for the investigations into the investigations. And when they turn up nothing, we’ll have investigations into the investigations into the investigations.

In our post-apocalyptic GOP-led future, there will be only investigations.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/64 "2016-07-07T18:24:01Z")

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Well this is a whole new level of stupidity. Ryan suggests withholding intelligence briefings for our Presidential Democrat candidate. Keeping our two Presidential candidates briefed is pretty darn important.

Rep. Adam Schiff does a nice job explaining this to Ryan.

> **[Ryan formally asks DNI to block Clinton's access to classified info | CNN...](https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/07/politics/paul-ryan-hillary-clinton-emails-dni/index.html)**
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> House Speaker Paul Ryan sent a letter to Director of National Intelligence James Clapper Wednesday requesting he deny any classified information to Hillary Clinton for the rest of the 2016 campaign.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/65 "2016-07-07T18:43:18Z")

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So how long before Comey is characterized as “evasive and uncooperative”?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/66 "2016-07-07T18:52:27Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Well this is a whole new level of stupidity. Ryan suggests withholding intelligence briefings for our Presidential Democrat candidate. Keeping our two Presidential candidates briefed is pretty darn important.
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> Rep. Adam Schiff does a nice job explaining this to Ryan.
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> [http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/07/politics/paul-ryan-hillary-clinton-emails-dni/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/07/politics/paul-ryan-hillary-clinton-emails-dni/index.html)

Just wait until Trump tweets out “WOW! Cannot believe what I heard. #NSA got it going on! Watch out @China - next Tues is gonna be HUGE!”

😃

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/67 "2016-07-07T18:54:16Z")

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> [@](#):
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> So how long before Comey is characterized as “evasive and uncooperative”?

I’ve been watching. Stunned, mouth agape, signs and wonders. A Republican of integrity, honesty, and a mind sharp enough to cut diamonds. Well, fuck me with a ferret!

Someone needs to come in quick with damning examples of this man acting with partisan cunning and/or stupidity. Otherwise, go a buttload of presumed parameters to realign.

Did I really just see what I think I did? Flashback, swamp gas, sunspots, neuro-spastic disorders? Da fuq?

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/68 "2016-07-07T18:55:40Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I’ve been watching. Stunned, mouth agape, signs and wonders. A Republican of integrity, honesty, and a mind sharp enough to cut diamonds. Well, fuck me with a ferret!
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> Someone needs to come in quick with damning examples of this man acting with partisan cunning and/or stupidity. Otherwise, go a buttload of presumed parameters to realign.
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> Did I really just see what I think I did? Flashback, swamp gas, sunspots, neuro-spastic disorders? Da fuq?

Care to translate this to someone not watching?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/69 "2016-07-07T19:03:51Z")

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Go watch, then _you_ come tell _me_! No doubt that there will be clips and such on the various outlets. They’ll pick the cashews out of the mixed nuts for you. Me, I’m gonna ride my bike down to the store, get some popcorn for Rachel Maddow tonight.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/70 "2016-07-07T19:06:54Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Care to translate this to someone not watching?

Comey is just being very clear and direct with his answers and refusing to be drawn in to speculation or making conclusions not part of his investigation.

Chaffetz has worked it hard. Not so casually bringing up whether the Clinton Foundation is part of this or any other investigation. Comey:“I’m not going to answer that”. Chaffetz might have scored some points with hammering on why Hillary asking her lawyers to review her emails wasn’t a blatant violation.

Eta: despite what some here hoped though, didn’t see a lot of soundbites that Hillary will be in any rush to use.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/71 "2016-07-07T19:13:47Z")

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He tied enough knots in Chaffetz’s tail to qualify as macramé.

(Translating for the weird. The rest of you need not bother.)

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/72 "2016-07-07T19:15:12Z")

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There’s a [youtube livestream](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_OKvGnv1ig), as well.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/73 "2016-07-07T19:35:04Z")

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The Pubbies had to know they weren’t going to get what they wanted, so they turned it into an hours-long Slam Hillary infomercial. At taxpayer expense, of course.

Sorry it’s not working out for you guys. (Not.)

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/74 "2016-07-07T19:42:19Z")

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I stopped watching as I had to make an errand, but not before this happened (Paraphrased)

**Republican Congress Critter** dripping condescension: Are you aware about how people that were close to Clinton had their email and systems compromised by top British hackers?

**Comey** (well duh! to you sir): Yes, and no, the hacks were of the less sophisticated variety, as in stealing their password in the real world -or guessing or by stealing some personal information to gain access with a third party.-

**Republican Congress Critter** dripping condescension: Are you aware that those top British hackers could had also broke into to the Clinton email…  
That last line I translate thus: "I will show all people how dumb I’m by ignoring what you already told us, you did drop a ton of bricks already on my talking point here because on those cases I mentioned there actually was no sophisticated attract here by hackers, so clearly there is less evidence then that the server being discussed was hacked by these “top” British hackers that we are making hay with…

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/75 "2016-07-07T19:43:28Z")

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I’m a little surprised they shot their load so quick, frankly. Instead of an “emergency session” they shoukd have drawn it out. Set the questioning for a week or so away. Basically they plopped the follow up into the same newscycle. Sad!

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/76 "2016-07-07T19:50:02Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> I’m a little surprised they shot their load so quick, frankly. Instead of an “emergency session” they shoukd have drawn it out. Set the questioning for a week or so away. Basically they plopped the follow up into the same newscycle. Sad!

There was a great rush to make fools of themselves before someone beat them to it.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/77 "2016-07-07T20:45:01Z")

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My final take on today’s hearing. This “emergency hearing” was a total waste of time. All it did was make Comey look like a well organized, sincere and honest public servant who, along with his staff, did their best in this investigation and resolving the matter.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/78 "2016-07-07T21:38:35Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I’ve been watching. Stunned, mouth agape, signs and wonders. A Republican of integrity, honesty, and a mind sharp enough to cut diamonds. Well, fuck me with a ferret!  
> Someone needs to come in quick with damning examples of this man acting with partisan cunning and/or stupidity. Otherwise, go a buttload of presumed parameters to realign.  
> Did I really just see what I think I did? Flashback, swamp gas, sunspots, neuro-spastic disorders? Da fuq?

I was very impressed, too. Certainly the example we saw today–of a registered Republican I can respect–will deter any overly-hasty generalizations about “Republicans” I might otherwise be tempted to offer.\*

As I said in another thread: if the GOP delegates were truly courageous, they’d buck the hopes and dreams of their most racist/authoritarian voters and dump the clown–then nominate Comey, instead. He’s formidable.

\*On the other hand, most of the GOP Representatives who spoke today only _enforced_ the negative generalizations.

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**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/79 "2016-07-07T22:57:35Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> I’m a little surprised they shot their load so quick, frankly. Instead of an “emergency session” they shoukd have drawn it out. Set the questioning for a week or so away. Basically they plopped the follow up into the same newscycle. Sad!

I have a strong feeling they plan to come back to this at some point in the future to try to bring HRC down. I found this bit from the [NYT coverage](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/08/us/politics/james-comey-fbi-testimony-hillary-clinton-emails.html?_r=0) to be very interesting in that regard:

> [@](#):
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> Mr. Comey said F.B.I. investigators did not examine whether Mrs. Clinton had lied to Congress about her use of emails because the agency did not get a “referral” from the legislative branch to investigate her statements under oath. Representative Jason Chaffetz, the Republican chairman of the committee, promised that would soon change.
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> “You’ll have one,” Mr. Chaffetz said. “You’ll have one in the next few hours.”

Sounds like the basis for Investigation #2 into Emailgate.

> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> I was very impressed, too. Certainly the example we saw today–of a registered Republican I can respect–will deter any overly-hasty generalizations about “Republicans” I might otherwise be tempted to offer.\*
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> As I said in another thread: if the GOP delegates were truly courageous, they’d buck the hopes and dreams of their most racist/authoritarian voters and dump the clown–then nominate Comey, instead. He’s formidable.

He’s just a normal registered Republican so he can afford to be a decent, respectable person. All those other yahoos are elected and too scared of alienating the looney right and losing their seat in Congress to have any real principles they believe are worth defending.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/80 "2016-07-07T23:08:48Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> As I said in another thread: if the GOP delegates were truly courageous, they’d buck the hopes and dreams of their most racist/authoritarian voters and dump the clown–then nominate Comey, instead. He’s formidable.

No, he’s Hillary/Obama’s lapdog, or he would have recommended an indictment! They got to him, probably by threatening his family, or offering him a cushy job in the Clinton Global Initiative. He’s a RINO!

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