# Ryan and the congressional Republicans to investigate the FBI. **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 6, 2016, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229 "2016-07-06T16:23:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/121 "2016-07-11T17:47:00Z")
Not so much proud as having less to be ashamed of. That, and still being capable of it. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/122 "2016-07-11T17:57:56Z")
> [@UberArchetype](#): > > Sorry, but I’ll just leave you and your ilk to wallow in the bright light of justice and political correctness Ms. Lynch and Mr. Comey have bestowed upon you and yours. 😉 As a comentator at MediaMatters puts it. “The real criminal negligence was for the Republicans to allow Donald Trump to become their nominee for president.” ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/123 "2016-07-11T18:00:50Z")
> [@UberArchetype](#): > > Sorry, but I’ll just leave you and your ilk to wallow in the bright light of justice and political correctness Ms. Lynch and Mr. Comey have bestowed upon you and yours. 😉 So we’ll just take it you have no cites or evidence to show charges should have been brought, just like the FBI found. Thanks for clearing that up. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/124 "2016-07-11T18:09:00Z")
> [@UberArchetype](#): > > Sorry, but I’ll just leave you and your ilk to wallow in the bright light of justice and political correctness Ms. Lynch and Mr. Comey have bestowed upon you and yours. 😉 So you (and any ‘ilk’ you may have) have no known credentials that would lend credence to your opinions, or any evidence to back up your assertions, but you expect everyone to agree with you because…you’re you. Or something. Got it. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/125 "2016-07-11T18:29:00Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > So according to you, Ms. Lynch owed Mr. Clinton a political favor of some sort. When and how was this debt incurred? > > . Not saying there is anything to it but Mr Clinton is the one who appointed her U.S. Attorney for Eastern District of New York, her first federal appointment. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/126 "2016-07-11T18:42:13Z")
Yep. Let’s view a rushed, two-day poll with a small sample size that was taken almost directly after the fact as gospel. ---
**Author:** ![UberArchetype](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/2bfe46/32.png) [@UberArchetype](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UberArchetype)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/127 "2016-07-11T18:49:54Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > So we’ll just take it you have no cites or evidence to show charges should have been brought, just like the FBI found. Thanks for clearing that up. Oh, looks like you missed the part where the FBI found what they were told to find. Sorry 'bout that. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/128 "2016-07-11T18:53:53Z")
> [@UberArchetype](#): > > Oh, looks like you missed the part where the FBI found what they were told to find. > > Sorry 'bout that. :rolleyes: Then link to it. And then explain why charges are warranted. ---
**Author:** ![wbkski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c5a1d2/32.png) [@wbkski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wbkski)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/129 "2016-07-11T19:32:49Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Obviously, not this planet. > Did you even hear or read [Comey’s statement](https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/statement-by-fbi-director-james-b.-comey-on-the-investigation-of-secretary-hillary-clintons-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system)? > > He made it _very_ clear why charges weren’t recommended. > > why don’t you explain why charges should be brought? Hopefully, you can cite previous cases. He made it very clear why he didn’t recommend charges. He indicated that he got his orders from the AG. “no reasonable prosecutor”… well…guess who would be prosecuting…the AG’s Department. It was a clear dog whistle. ---
**Author:** ![wbkski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c5a1d2/32.png) [@wbkski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wbkski)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/130 "2016-07-11T19:35:11Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > She should ask her husband. “deliberate lie”… is there any other kind? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/131 "2016-07-11T19:55:37Z")
> [@wbkski](#): > > He made it very clear why he didn’t recommend charges. **He indicated that he got his orders from the AG. “no reasonable prosecutor”** … well…guess who would be prosecuting…the AG’s Department. It was a clear dog whistle. Care to quote what he said? ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/132 "2016-07-11T20:25:44Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > Yep. Let’s view a rushed, two-day poll with a small sample size that was taken almost directly after the fact as gospel. “Rushed” seems like a silly term to use here. An event happens, you call people and you ask them about it. It’s not as though they were in a big hurry and forgot to ask half the questions or phrased them very poorly. But obviously, we’ll see what the true results are in the upcoming weeks. Right now, it’s the first bit of evidence in the effect this whole thing is having. ---
**Author:** ![Pashnish\_Ewing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8797f3/32.png) [@Pashnish\_Ewing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pashnish_Ewing)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/133 "2016-07-11T20:45:01Z")
> [@wbkski](#): > > He made it **very clear** why he didn’t recommend charges. He **indicated** … (my bold) I swear, are you guys even _trying_? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/134 "2016-07-11T20:50:56Z")
> [@wbkski](#): > > He made it very clear why he didn’t recommend charges. He indicated that he got his orders from the AG. “no reasonable prosecutor”… well…guess who would be prosecuting…the AG’s Department. It was a clear dog whistle. … and yet _you_ heard it. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/135 "2016-07-11T23:13:34Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > So according to you, Ms. Lynch owed Mr. Clinton a political favor of some sort. When and how was this debt incurred? . . . And why would it have been called in publicly? Why would someone go to all the trouble to suborn a criminal investigation…in a public place? That’s the trouble with this kind of conspiracy fantasy: it requires that wicked people have secret mastery of all kinds of hidden power and unguessed secrets – and at the same time be totally stupid. (One paranoid goofball on a right-wing hate-radio interview explained how Clinton’s entire career is based on bribery; he named the dummy corporation that distributes Bill Clinton’s speaking fees, and how they are all quid pro quo payments for favors. Okay… How does this jerkwad on the radio know this…but the FBI can’t figure it out?) ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2016, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/136 "2016-07-12T00:51:15Z")
> [@wbkski](#): > > He made it very clear why he didn’t recommend charges. He indicated that he got his orders from the AG. “no reasonable prosecutor”… well…guess who would be prosecuting…the AG’s Department. It was a clear dog whistle. Dog whistles are bullshit. In any case, they dont prosecute for these sort of violations. They are administrative. You get a letter in your file, have to go for training, that sort of stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2016, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/137 "2016-07-12T02:23:10Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > “Rushed” seems like a silly term to use here. An event happens, you call people and you ask them about it. It’s not as though they were in a big hurry and forgot to ask half the questions or phrased them very poorly. > > But obviously, we’ll see what the true results are in the upcoming weeks. Right now, it’s the first bit of evidence in the effect this whole thing is having. As opposed to presidential polls, which average 4-7 days. Sounds like they wanted to beat everyone to the news cycle on Monday. Sure seems rushed to me. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2016, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/138 "2016-07-12T02:40:06Z")
> [@UberArchetype](#): > > Oh, looks like you missed the part where the FBI found what they were told to find. > > Sorry 'bout that. :rolleyes: And you have repeatedly failed to provide a cite to anything supporting that. C’mon, get with program and at least make an effort. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2016, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/139 "2016-07-12T04:30:03Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > As opposed to presidential polls, which average 4-7 days. Sounds like they wanted to beat everyone to the news cycle on Monday. Sure seems rushed to me. The average general election poll on RCP right now is 3.25 days (low end of 1 day and high end of 6 days). Less than even the low end of your supposed range. But you seem pretty vested in insisting that this poll must be wrong so go ahead and roll with that. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2016, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229/140 "2016-07-12T05:14:42Z")
Heh your ‘low-end’ happened in 3 of 108 GE polls that RCP lists going back over a year. It just happened to show up once in the last two weeks, which is obviously where you got your average. But hey, you’re right, polls taken immediately after the fact always reflect people’s decision-making 4 months down the road. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan-and-the-congressional-republicans-to-investigate-the-fbi/759229.md?page=8)