# Ryan\_Liam, a moment please...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-a-moment-please/141174>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 7, 2002, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-a-moment-please/141174 "2002-12-07T19:41:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![samarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@samarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samarm)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-a-moment-please/141174/21 "2002-12-07T21:52:58Z")

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Don’t jiggle them in my face!

OK OK I clicked the link, and got… a timeout? Oh well, after all that! ☹

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-a-moment-please/141174/22 "2002-12-07T21:55:57Z")

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Click away. There’s rules about posting naughty links 😃

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**Author:** ![porcupine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac91a4/32.png) [@porcupine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/porcupine)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-a-moment-please/141174/23 "2002-12-07T21:59:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Jonathan Chance \*  
> \*\*So I’m not the only one who thought this when the new rule was announced, eh? \*\*

Nope. There have probably been quite a number of posters in the past who could have inspired the new rule - I think this is just the latest to cross the “annoyance threshold” enough for the mods and admins to finally make it part of the registration agreement.

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**Author:** ![Geobabe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/geobabe/32/3908_2.png) [@Geobabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geobabe)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-a-moment-please/141174/24 "2002-12-07T22:56:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Miller \*  
> \*\ ***Geobabe** , I think a conservative 90% of the posts here are clutter we have to wade through to get posts with substance. Singling out **Ryan\_Liam** as being especially stupider than, say, almost anything in IMHO seems a little cruel to me. \*\*

The difference being that they’re not all from the same person. At least there’s a bit of variety to it. And I think a lot of people agree with me that’s it’s inherently annoying to see the same person’s name over and over and over again on the forum page as the thread starter.

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**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-a-moment-please/141174/25 "2002-12-07T23:03:24Z")

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Ryan, remember this [conversation](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=146147)?

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> _originally posted by Ryan Liam:_  
> \*\*Again I sounded like an ass. Forget the post. lets just let it die eh? Bad thing to do when I’m a newbie!  
> \*\*

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> _originally posted by me:_  
> \*\*You don’t sound like an ass, Ryan, sorry if it sounded like that’s what I was saying, 'cause I wasn’t. Just trying to get the OP clarified a bit, is all.
> 
> Trust me–when you really do sound like an ass, the Teeming Millions will let you know.
> 
> In words of one syllable.\*\*

This is what I was talking about, babe. Just breathe deep and hang onto your seat, it’ll be over soon. 😃

And–get a Live Journal page or something, 'kay? 😉

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**Author:** ![Tir\_Tinuviel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@Tir\_Tinuviel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tir_Tinuviel)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-a-moment-please/141174/26 "2002-12-07T23:16:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Duck Duck Goose \*  
> \*\*And–get a Live Journal page or something, 'kay? 😉 \*\*

Now, now, do it **NOW!**

hee hee hee! 😃

you know those “BuyMeaHooker”, “PayMyDebts” & “HelpMeLeaveMyHusband” websites, I vote we start a “GetRyanLiamaLJ” campaign. Afterall we **all** want him to get one!

tee hee

[sub]I am getting over excited, time to put myself to bed.[/sub]

**Hardy!** lookie, just for you, post 350!  
_smooooooch_

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**Author:** ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2002, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-a-moment-please/141174/27 "2002-12-07T23:56:14Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Geobabe \*  
> \*\*\<snip\>  
> And I think a lot of people agree with me that’s it’s inherently annoying to see the same person’s name over and over and over again on the forum page as the thread starter. \*\*

Yep, it sure is.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2002, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-a-moment-please/141174/28 "2002-12-08T00:05:13Z")

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I think **Ryan** is benign, but over-enthusiastic. One of his positive attributes is that he admits when he’s made a boo-boo, which is a great asset. Some of his threads are thought provoking. He’s just overly excessive. Cool down the amount of threads you start, and you’ll be fine, young **Ryan**.

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**Author:** ![hardygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2002, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-a-moment-please/141174/29 "2002-12-08T00:20:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tir Tinuviel \*  
> \*\*Now, now, do it **NOW!**
> 
> hee hee hee! 😃
> 
> you know those “BuyMeaHooker”, “PayMyDebts” & “HelpMeLeaveMyHusband” websites, I vote we start a “GetRyanLiamaLJ” campaign. Afterall we **all** want him to get one!
> 
> tee hee
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> [sub]I am getting over excited, time to put myself to bed.[/sub]
> 
> **Hardy!** lookie, just for you, post 350!  
> _smooooooch_ \*\*

**TirBabe!** You remembered! _smoooooooooooch_ 😛

As for the OP, I can think of a few people this new rule may have been inspired by…think twice, post once kids. Take my word for it.

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**Author:** ![kiz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7feea3/32.png) [@kiz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kiz)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2002, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-a-moment-please/141174/30 "2002-12-08T02:58:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jjimm \*  
> \*\*I think **Ryan** is benign, but over-enthusiastic. One of his positive attributes is that he admits when he’s made a boo-boo, which is a great asset. Some of his threads are thought provoking. He’s just overly excessive. Cool down the amount of threads you start, and you’ll be fine, young **Ryan**. \*\*

:applauds:

…'cause that’s exactly what I was going to say! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2002, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-a-moment-please/141174/31 "2002-12-08T03:21:55Z")

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**Ryan** , for what it’s worth I don’t want you to go away. The SDMB can be like crack, very addictive. I see you as being off at college, a little lonely and in need of some validation.

It’s a little bit like “Peter and the Wolf”. If you continue to start so many threads every day, you are not likely to be taken seriously. I think you are an intelligent person and I look forward to reading some very thoughtful posts from you in the future.

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**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2002, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-a-moment-please/141174/32 "2002-12-08T04:19:57Z")

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[I have a LiveJournal code](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=148787).

Get 'em while they’re hot.

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**Author:** ![DeadlyAccurate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@DeadlyAccurate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadlyAccurate)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2002, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-a-moment-please/141174/33 "2002-12-08T06:57:34Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Jonathan Chance \*  
> \*\*So I’m not the only one who thought this when the new rule was announced, eh? \*\*

Nope, I thought this, too.

Thanks, **Kwyjibo** , for starting this. I was about to make my very first Pit thread about a another poster to be about Ryan\_Liam’s obsession with himself. I was getting decidedly annoyed.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2002, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-a-moment-please/141174/34 "2002-12-08T08:17:54Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Geobabe \*  
> \*\*The difference being that they’re not all from the same person. At least there’s a bit of variety to it. And I think a lot of people agree with me that’s it’s inherently annoying to see the same person’s name over and over and over again on the forum page as the thread starter. \*\*

Seems that would make it less annoying, since you know precisely which threads to avoid. None of this, “I wonder if this is interesting. Nope! Same old crap!” rigamorale. You can tell right from the forum page wether you want to read the thread or not. Just look for the **Ryan\_Liam** label. I think you people are being far too harsh with the poor guy, especially considering the self esteem problems he evidently already has. I don’t have a problem with Pitting someone because they’re assholes, or jerks, or borderline trolls, but Pitting someone just because they’re annoying you is mean. Not to mention whiney.

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**Author:** ![reprise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@reprise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/reprise)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2002, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-a-moment-please/141174/35 "2002-12-08T08:37:15Z")

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Like we’ve never had over-enthusiastic or attention-seeking posters around here before…

Are we complaining about the amount of threads **Ryan\_Liam** is starting, or we complaining about the fact that he doesn’t confine himself to starting them in **IMHO** and **MPSIMS**? A number of posters have pointed out to him that if you’re going to start threads in **GQ** and **GD** , you might need to wait a couple of days before the person best able to address your post is online. Perhaps the best thing we can all do is encourage him to follow more closely the forum descriptions and let him know about all the instant messaging services and IRC channels which are available if he feels the need for instant communication with the online community.

I suspect that this particular poster’s anthem is **not** a _Red Hot Chili Peppers_ song.

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**Author:** ![Geobabe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/geobabe/32/3908_2.png) [@Geobabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Geobabe)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2002, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-a-moment-please/141174/36 "2002-12-08T17:15:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Miller \*  
> \*\*I think you people are being far too harsh with the poor guy, especially considering the self esteem problems he evidently already has. I don’t have a problem with Pitting someone because they’re assholes, or jerks, or borderline trolls, but Pitting someone just because they’re annoying you is mean. Not to mention whiney. \*\*

Eh, I don’t have a dog in this fight, I just think “If you don’t like it, don’t read it!” is a poor response to a complaint about someone’s threads. If you disagree with the OP, say why.

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**Author:** ![Kwyjibo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/59ef9b/32.png) [@Kwyjibo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kwyjibo)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2002, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-a-moment-please/141174/37 "2002-12-08T17:17:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Miller \*  
> **Seems that would make it less annoying, since you know precisely which threads to avoid. None of this, “I wonder if this is interesting. Nope! Same old crap!” rigamorale.**

Um, I don’t recall saying ALL of his threads were stupid. Just most of them. There were some where he has something interesting to say.

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> \*Originally posted by Miller \*  
> **You can tell right from the forum page wether you want to read the thread or not. Just look for the Ryan\_Liam label.**

Again. See above.

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> \*Originally posted by Miller \*  
> **I think you people are being far too harsh with the poor guy, especially considering the self esteem problems he evidently already has.**

I agree he has self esteem problems, but that does not make his ‘attention getting’ any less annoying…like I had told him in one of his other threads. Don’t try so hard to get attention and be yourself.

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> \*Originally posted by Miller \*  
> \*\*I don’t have a problem with Pitting someone because they’re assholes, or jerks, or borderline trolls, but Pitting someone just because they’re annoying you is mean. Not to mention whiney. \*\*

Well, ya see? That’s the thing. I already got tripped up by the “T” word, so where does that leave us?

He isn’t ‘trolling’ in the strictest definition of the word, so you can’t rightfully report a single thread because he isn’t doing anything wrong _in_ that thread. But put all of his threads together, and it is obvious he is just trying to get attention.

And that, for lack of a better word, is annoying.

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**Author:** ![Kwyjibo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/59ef9b/32.png) [@Kwyjibo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kwyjibo)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2002, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-a-moment-please/141174/38 "2002-12-08T17:31:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by reprise \*  
> **Like we’ve never had over-enthusiastic or attention-seeking posters around here before…**

Granted, but I have been visiting the boards on a more frequent basis now that they are running better, so where as I have _heard_ of others, I have not seen it for myself so much. This was a situation that I watched from the beginning.

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> \*Originally posted by reprise \*  
> \*\*Are we complaining about the amount of threads **Ryan\_Liam** is starting, or we complaining about the fact that he doesn’t confine himself to starting them in **IMHO** and **MPSIMS**? \*\*

My beef is with the number of threads in the short time he has been here. That and the fact that the topics on most of them are so bloody silly, to me is seems like he is racking his brains for any old question so he can post it and get noticed.

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> \*Originally posted by reprise \*  
> \*\*A number of posters have pointed out to him that if you’re going to start threads in **GQ** and **GD** , you might need to wait a couple of days before the person best able to address your post is online. \*\*

Again, I only know of two of his threads that were in the wrong place. We all slip up like that once in a while. (and with the amount of threads he made and considering the short time span, he was bound to get them wrong once in a while.)

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> \*Originally posted by reprise \*  
> \*\*Perhaps the best thing we can all do is encourage him to follow more closely the forum descriptions and let him know about all the instant messaging services and IRC channels which are available if he feels the need for instant communication with the online community. \*\*

Like Tir said, am a big teddy bear. 😉 I’m not completely heartless. I would welcome him to LJ and chat. Gawd knows we all can get pretty silly and inane in there. That’s what it is there for. 🙂

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**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-a-moment-please/141174/39 "2002-12-09T14:06:30Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Jonathan Chance \*  
> \*\*So I’m not the only one who thought this when the new rule was announced, eh? \*\*

I thought it was also inspired by the repeated time travel threads.

😉

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**Author:** ![Early\_Out](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Early\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Early_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2002, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-a-moment-please/141174/40 "2002-12-09T14:13:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by elf6c \*  
> \*\*I thought it was also inspired by the repeated time travel threads.
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> 😉 \*\*

Well, gee, if Superman flew backwards around the world really, really fast, and made time go backwards, couldn’t we prevent the time-travel-thread posters from making those posts in the first place?

::d&r::

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