# Ryan\_Liam: Shut the fuck up, you stinking pile of shit **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 21, 2006, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-shut-the-fuck-up-you-stinking-pile-of-shit/361522 "2006-06-21T02:10:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2006, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-shut-the-fuck-up-you-stinking-pile-of-shit/361522/61 "2006-06-22T01:08:24Z")
> [@Ryan\_Liam](#): > > I didn’t imply that you would be happy to see Iraq go down the tubes, only that you would be glad that I would be mistaken in my assertion that Iraq will succeed and overcome the violence. And I’ve repeatedly pointed out that there’s no daylight between those two things. > [@](#): > > Then you have to agree that constantly downgrading the progress Iraq has made can also be damaging to that effect. That would depend on there being progress. > [@Stuffy](#): > > T’aint just you. I had a big case if the “whaaaaaat?” Even before the post that prompted this Pit thread, I was contemplating a thread about **Ryan** ’s recurring intelligibility problems. It ain’t just you, and it ain’t just that post. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2006, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-shut-the-fuck-up-you-stinking-pile-of-shit/361522/62 "2006-06-22T01:25:55Z")
Ah, for the days when the most annoying thing about Ryan\_Liam was his use of the board as a personal journal… ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2006, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-shut-the-fuck-up-you-stinking-pile-of-shit/361522/63 "2006-06-22T01:40:26Z")
> [@](#): > > And I’ve repeatedly pointed out that there’s no daylight between those two things. Yes there is, there is a difference in wanting to see Iraq go down the tubes, and wanting to see someone wrong on the subject. > [@](#): > > That would depend on there being progress. Which there is. > [@](#): > > Even before the post that prompted this Pit thread, I was contemplating a thread about Ryan’s recurring intelligibility problems. It ain’t just you, and it ain’t just that post. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2006, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-shut-the-fuck-up-you-stinking-pile-of-shit/361522/64 "2006-06-22T01:43:08Z")
> [@Stuffy](#): > > T’aint just you. I had a big case if the “whaaaaaat?” I will just say again, if I had any intention to claim I was in the military, I wouldn’t of said it just **once** ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2006, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-shut-the-fuck-up-you-stinking-pile-of-shit/361522/65 "2006-06-22T01:54:33Z")
> [@Ryan\_Liam](#): > > I will just say again, if I had any intention to claim I was in the military, I wouldn’t of said it just **once** Man, how hard is it for you to answer a simple question? Were you in the military? Yes or no? > [@Ryan\_Liam](#): > > Yes there is, there is a difference in wanting to see Iraq go down the tubes, and wanting to see someone wrong on the subject. No there fucking well isn’t, because if you’re wrong on the subject, then that means Iraq has gone down the tubes. There isn’t a single person on the board who doesn’t _desperately_ want you to be right. If you’re right, than thousands of lives haven’t been wasted in vain. You cannot seperate the two issues: they’re one and the same. Besides, you being wrong isn’t some sort of epochal event. We’ve all seen you be wrong about crap plenty of times before. It ain’t exactly special, anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2006, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-shut-the-fuck-up-you-stinking-pile-of-shit/361522/66 "2006-06-22T02:26:30Z")
> [@](#): > > Man, how hard is it for you to answer a simple question? Were you in the military? Yes or no? Lets take a look at what I’m saying; > [@](#): > > Sorry, yeah I remember that post what **I thought you meant was it ok for someone who was a military enthusiast to of been in the military, hence my yeah with a question mark.** > > **Apologies for the mix up.** Which implies I’m not in the military and also means, **NO** > [@](#): > > I will just say again, if I had any intention to claim I was in the military, I wouldn’t of said it just once Which means, **NO** Better? Does it clear everything up for you now? > [@](#): > > Besides, you being wrong isn’t some sort of epochal event. We’ve all seen you be wrong about crap plenty of times before. It ain’t exactly special, anymore. I’ve never been one to not admit I’m wrong, and by that assertion, you’ve read some of my previous threads/posts, make up your own mind. > [@](#): > > No there fucking well isn’t, because if you’re wrong on the subject, then that means Iraq has gone down the tubes. There isn’t a single person on the board who doesn’t desperately want you to be right. If you’re right, than thousands of lives haven’t been wasted in vain. You cannot seperate the two issues: they’re one and the same. Yet many of you have already come to the conclusion Iraq has gone down the tubes and that I’m wrong anyway. So what’s there to argue about? ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2006, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-shut-the-fuck-up-you-stinking-pile-of-shit/361522/67 "2006-06-22T02:46:28Z")
> [@Ryan\_Liam](#): > > Hey, [you dumb fuck](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5805991&postcount=253), I didn’t support the reasons for the war in the first place, but as I see it, we broke it, **WE** fix it. This assumes that the situation is fixable. And I don’t know what you see that makes you think that this administration has anywhere near the competence to do any fixing. If there’s one thing that characterizes this administration, it’s utter incompetence. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2006, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-shut-the-fuck-up-you-stinking-pile-of-shit/361522/68 "2006-06-22T02:57:10Z")
> [@](#): > > How would things have turned out if we had booked out of Germany in the late 1940’s? Back in the 1940’s, the United States government not only made plans for winning a war (actually two different wars going on simultaneously) but it also realized that it needed to start making plans during the war for what was going to happen after the war ended. I don’t know why the current administration didn’t look back to this historical example of how to do things right. Maybe they didn’t want to risk being tainted by accusations of being Trumanesque. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2006, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-shut-the-fuck-up-you-stinking-pile-of-shit/361522/69 "2006-06-22T03:11:05Z")
Ryan, what is wrong? Victory is for certain Are you flipflopping? -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2006, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-shut-the-fuck-up-you-stinking-pile-of-shit/361522/70 "2006-06-22T03:41:57Z")
> [@Ryan\_Liam](#): > > Lets take a look at what I’m saying; Oh, yes, lets. > [@](#): > > Sorry, yeah I remember that post what I thought you meant was it ok for someone who was a military enthusiast to of been in the military, hence my yeah with a question mark. > > Apologies for the mix up. At what point in that mess of quasi-English syntax do you even come close to providing an answer to the original question? > [@](#): > > I will just say again, if I had any intention to claim I was in the military, I wouldn’t of said it just once. What the fuck does that even mean? It’s like three perfectly good sentences died, then got dug up by a mad scientist who stitched them together into one Frankenstein monster and then unleashed it on a helpless peasant village. > [@](#): > > Better? Does it clear everything up for you now? Not really. At this point, your command of the English language is so transparently pathetic that, when type “NO” in large point font, I figure there at least a 1 in four chance you meant to say “YES” and got confused. > [@](#): > > I’ve never been one to not admit I’m wrong, and by that assertion, you’ve read some of my previous threads/posts, make up your own mind. Make up my mind? About what? I didn’t pose a question in that bit you quoted from my post. I made a statement: no one is sitting around thinking, “Oh boy, oh boy, I hope I can catch **Ryan** in an error!” _Especially_ when proving you wrong on this subject means _tens of thousands of people have died for no fucking reason!_ Of course, people are going to keep doing it anyway, because even if you’re never going to get the point, someone else reading it might, and that’s one more person who is going to support getting out of this quagmire before any more lives are wasted. Which serves well as a reply to this bit: > [@](#): > > Yet many of you have already come to the conclusion Iraq has gone down the tubes and that I’m wrong anyway. So what’s there to argue about? Which is kind of ironic, because that bit doesn’t serve as a reply to a single damn thing in my post. Seriously, do you actually read English, or do you post to this board via Babelfish? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2006, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-shut-the-fuck-up-you-stinking-pile-of-shit/361522/71 "2006-06-22T04:18:50Z")
Let’s run a piece of **Ryan** -speak through Babelfish, say from English (?) to Spanish and back to English: > [@](#): > > Sorry, yeah I remember that post what I thought you meant was it ok for someone who was a military enthusiast to of been in the military, hence my yeah with a question mark. > [@](#): > > Apesadumbrado, recuerdo sí ese poste qué pensé que usted significó estaba aceptable para alguien a quien era un entusiasta militar del sido en los militares, por lo tanto mi sí con un signo de interrogación. > [@](#): > > Grieved, memory yes that post what I thought that you meant you were acceptable for somebody to whom she was an enthusiastic military man of be in the military, therefore my yes with a question mark. Wow… it _almost_ make sense now! Maybe if we try it in French: > [@](#): > > Désolé, ouais je me rappelle ce poteau ce que j’ai pensé que vous avez voulu dire était ce correct pour quelqu’un à qui était un fervent militaire d’été dans les militaires, par conséquent mon ouais avec un point d’interrogation > [@](#): > > Afflicted, I ouais remember this post what I thought that you wanted to say was this correct for somebody with whom was an enthusiastic soldier of summer in the soldiers, consequently my ouais with a question mark Yup, that’s the authentic **Ryan** voice that comes through all right. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2006, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-shut-the-fuck-up-you-stinking-pile-of-shit/361522/72 "2006-06-22T05:01:30Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Seriously, do you actually read English, or do you post to this board via Babelfish? Weird. I was about to ask him the same thing. Except I was wondering if it was some third rate rip-off of Babelfish designed by people whose fluency in English is limited to having briefly seen the cover of a dictionary once. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2006, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-shut-the-fuck-up-you-stinking-pile-of-shit/361522/73 "2006-06-22T05:06:12Z")
> [@Excalibre](#): > > having briefly seen the cover of a dictionary once. but wasn’t the cover torn off? ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2006, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-shut-the-fuck-up-you-stinking-pile-of-shit/361522/74 "2006-06-22T12:27:23Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Wow… it _almost_ make sense now! Maybe if we try it in French: > Yup, that’s the authentic **Ryan** voice that comes through all right. > > 😉 I’m sorry, but I think you just killed him. Translating something right-wing wargasming moron into **FRENCH**? I think that’s like a matter/antimatter thing…or possibly that one little floaty guy saying his name backwards. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2006, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-shut-the-fuck-up-you-stinking-pile-of-shit/361522/75 "2006-06-22T12:49:53Z")
> [@Ryan\_Liam](#): > > Which there is. Ah, the traditional **Ryan\_Liam** argument by assertion. Good to know there are some eternal constants. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2006, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-shut-the-fuck-up-you-stinking-pile-of-shit/361522/76 "2006-06-22T13:18:53Z")
So, **Ryan** , is bombing for peace anything like fucking for virginity – in your world I mean? [**Massacre of Civilians Was Inevitable**](http://www.lewrockwell.com/margolis/margolis35.html) Imbecile. ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2006, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-shut-the-fuck-up-you-stinking-pile-of-shit/361522/77 "2006-06-22T21:40:49Z")
> [@](#): > > **Miller** > At what point in that mess of quasi-English syntax do you even come close to providing an answer to the original question? Let me go through it again I thought he said did people who were in the military, and were also military enthusiasts, could contribute, then I said > [@](#): > > Yeah? Which is the reason why I responded in such a manner. > [@](#): > > **Merijeek** > I’m sorry, but I think you just killed him. Translating something right-wing wargasming moron into FRENCH? I think that’s like a matter/antimatter thing…or possibly that one little floaty guy saying his name backwards. All ‘Chickenhawks’ hate the French 🙂 > [@](#): > > **Miller** > Not really. At this point, your command of the English language is so transparently pathetic that, when type “NO” in large point font, I figure there at least a 1 in four chance you meant to say “YES” and got confused. Sorry to dissapoint, but NO actually meant no this time 😃 > [@](#): > > What the fuck does that even mean? It’s like three perfectly good sentences died, then got dug up by a mad scientist who stitched them together into one Frankenstein monster and then unleashed it on a helpless peasant village It means there would of been the off chance of me claiming to be in the military more than that one time. > [@](#): > > Make up my mind? About what? I didn’t pose a question in that bit you quoted from my post. I made a statement: no one is sitting around thinking, “Oh boy, oh boy, I hope I can catch Ryan in an error!” Especially when proving you wrong on this subject means tens of thousands of people have died for no fucking reason! Fair do’s, I didn’t know you made a statement. > [@](#): > > Of course, people are going to keep doing it anyway, because even if you’re never going to get the point, someone else reading it might, and that’s one more person who is going to support getting out of this quagmire before any more lives are wasted. Which serves well as a reply to this bit: But lives aren’t being wasted to ensure a country has the ability to fend for itself. > [@](#): > > Which is kind of ironic, because that bit doesn’t serve as a reply to a single damn thing in my post. Seriously, do you actually read English, or do you post to this board via Babelfish? Babelfish all the way 😉 > [@](#): > > **Yookeroo** > This assumes that the situation is fixable. And I don’t know what you see that makes you think that this administration has anywhere near the competence to do any fixing. If there’s one thing that characterizes this administration, it’s utter incompetence. Elections, a increasing capable Iraqi Army, first national unity government since 2003, a written and elected constitution, seems to me despite the incompetence they’re on the right track. > [@](#): > > **Redfury** > So, Ryan, is bombing for peace anything like fucking for virginity – in your world I mean? > > Massacre of Civilians Was Inevitable > > Imbecile. Doesn’t any of your insults **not** eminate from the Genitals? As for your cite, [QUOTE] **Redfury Cite Homepage** \*The Invention of the AIDS Virus Harvey Bialy on fast-food etiology.[/\*QUOTE] :wally ---
**Author:** ![Wakinyan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wakinyan/32/352_2.png) [@Wakinyan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wakinyan)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2006, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-shut-the-fuck-up-you-stinking-pile-of-shit/361522/78 "2006-06-22T23:58:17Z")
> [@Little Nemo](#): > > There are some people who regard politics as being the equivalent of a football game. They feel that you pick a team, you follow that team, there is an opposing team, you score points on the field, and your team wins if it scores more points. Their political ideal is for their group to go undefeated in every contest and win the trophy. > > Other people see politics as being the equivalent of a religion. They believe that they are underlying truths in political issues. Some people are aware of these truths and it is their duty to reveal these truths to those who aren’t aware of them. By doing so, these people will be converted and the faith will grow. Their political ideal is for everyone to join the faith. > > Politics is not a football game or a religion. But when the followers of these two metaphors meet, the conflicts between their world views usually lead to problems. Yes. And while these games are going on, people are dying en masse. For what good? “Whom does it benefit?” ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2006, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-shut-the-fuck-up-you-stinking-pile-of-shit/361522/79 "2006-06-23T00:12:49Z")
> [@Happy Clam](#): > > I can’t remember where I’m stealing this from, but I once read this tactic on behalf of the right\* described as a conversation between a concerned liberal (CL) and a conservative about to jump out of a window (Conservatice Jumper, or CJ for short): I don’t know where you stole it from, either, and I don’t care: GO PUT IT BACK!! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2006, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-shut-the-fuck-up-you-stinking-pile-of-shit/361522/80 "2006-06-23T00:43:37Z")
> [@Happy Clam](#): > > I can’t remember where I’m stealing this from, but I once read this tactic on behalf of the right\* described as a conversation between a concerned liberal (CL) and a conservative about to jump out of a window (Conservatice Jumper, or CJ for short):\*Obligatory disclaimer: Not all right-wingers do this. **Ryan\_liam** does. Just to confuse matters futehre wrt the provenance of the story, here is [America: A Brief Parable.](http://www.workingforchange.com/comic.cfm?itemid=19945) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-shut-the-fuck-up-you-stinking-pile-of-shit/361522.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryan_liam-shut-the-fuck-up-you-stinking-pile-of-shit/361522.md?page=5)