# Ryder Cup 2010 Discussion! **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 29, 2010, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryder-cup-2010-discussion/555519 "2010-09-29T20:52:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryder-cup-2010-discussion/555519/41 "2010-10-02T22:23:14Z")
> [@Dahu](#): > > > [@John\_Mace](#): > > > > Not very big. It’s nothing like a major. But then golf is a pretty minor sport here in the first place compared to Football/Basketball/Baseball. > > I understand that golf is nowhere near as big as your big 3 sports (same here in Britain sort of). But I’m quite surprised to find out it’s nothing like a major. Really? So the Open (the British Open) gets more press than the Ryder Cup? What about when the RC is held in the US? I wasn’t thinking so much about press, but viewership. Non-golf fans have a hard enough time understanding the rules and scoring in stroke play golf, and the Ryder Cup, with it’s multiple format matches is just really confusing. Even some of my golfing buddies don’t fully understand the different formats. Would it be bigger if it happened outside of football season? Maybe, but I doubt it. It’s just not easy for non-golf fans to appreciate. I have to wonder, too, how many golf fans there are like me. I watch a lot of golf, but I just can’t get into it as a team sport. I like routing for my favorite golfers and don’t really care what country they’re from. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryder-cup-2010-discussion/555519/42 "2010-10-02T23:13:04Z")
There is more than 9 holes for teams to play before singles can begin. Rain (surprise) is in the forecast. It is likely that they will not finish and Monday will be the end. They may not finish by then either. Would they just count the scores completed at that point? ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2010, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryder-cup-2010-discussion/555519/43 "2010-10-02T23:42:06Z")
They are going to play as long as possible, until Monday at Sunset. ~6:45 pm local time. If there are any matches still on the course on Monday at sunset, those matches will automatically be called a draw. IMO, they will complete the matches tomorrow if there is no more than an hour weather delay. If there is a delay of more than an hour, the matches will go into Monday. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryder-cup-2010-discussion/555519/44 "2010-10-03T01:08:01Z")
This was good for the US. The European team had all the momentum . ---
**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryder-cup-2010-discussion/555519/45 "2010-10-03T12:06:44Z")
[Why it is in October](http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/iaincarter/2010/10/politics_to_blame_not_wales.html). ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryder-cup-2010-discussion/555519/46 "2010-10-03T15:26:15Z")
The Tiger team got their horns honked, 5 and 4. They will have plenty of rest before Mondays singles, assuming it does not rain out. Phil is not having a good cup either. Our biggest names failing on the biggest stage. ---
**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryder-cup-2010-discussion/555519/47 "2010-10-03T16:55:24Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > The Tiger team got their horns honked, 5 and 4. They will have plenty of rest before Mondays singles, assuming it does not rain out. Phil is not having a good cup either. Our biggest names failing on the biggest stage. It was actually 6 & 5. The Europeans take the session 5.5 - 0.5 to lead 9.5 - 6.5 going into the singles. Tremendous play by the Europeans, and the Americans struggled with the slow greens. Never have I seen so many putts for a win or half left short. ---
**Author:** ![4Given](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/bbe5ce/32.png) [@4Given](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/4Given)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryder-cup-2010-discussion/555519/48 "2010-10-03T17:34:48Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I’m not a big fan of the Ryder Cup, but I’ve got it on while I’m doing some other stuff. Who is responsible for those lavender vests the US guys are wearing!?? They look totally… unmasculine. No kidding, ad what’s with the white belts? The rule is, never wear a white belt after Labor Day…1969 ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryder-cup-2010-discussion/555519/49 "2010-10-03T19:09:25Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > > [@Dahu](#): > > > > This to the colonials on here - how big is the Ryder Cup over there? > > Not very big. It’s nothing like a major. But then golf is a pretty minor sport here in the first place compared to Football/Basketball/Baseball. It is very big. It is bigger than normal golf. Casual fans seem to follow it . That is my experience. Except this one comes on at 3 AM, which certainly limits the viewership. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryder-cup-2010-discussion/555519/50 "2010-10-03T19:11:06Z")
> [@amarone](#): > > > [@gonzomax](#): > > > > The Tiger team got their horns honked, 5 and 4. They will have plenty of rest before Mondays singles, assuming it does not rain out. Phil is not having a good cup either. Our biggest names failing on the biggest stage. > > It was actually 6 & 5. The Europeans take the session 5.5 - 0.5 to lead 9.5 - 6.5 going into the singles. > > Tremendous play by the Europeans, and the Americans struggled with the slow greens. Never have I seen so many putts for a win or half left short. It might dry out a bit. The forecast is for dry tomorrow. In my area it starts at 4AM. ---
**Author:** ![Busy\_Scissors](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@Busy\_Scissors](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Busy_Scissors)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryder-cup-2010-discussion/555519/51 "2010-10-03T20:01:15Z")
The Ryder cup has been frequently described as the ‘third most watched sporting event in the world’ in the press build up over here. [here, for example](http://www.rydercup.com/2008/news/2008/europe/01/04/1000days010408/index.html) [and here](http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2010/sep/30/ryder-cup-countdown-celtic-manor) No idea on the source for this, and it could well be pulled from a golfing journalist’s hole, but it is certainly a few levels above any other golf tournament in terms of interest over here. Americans with a mountain to climb - can their rugged individuality assert itself in the singles? I kindly doubt it, but we shall see. Some exquisite choke artistry on display. You expect it from Phil at this stage in the season, in fact I kind of admire the brass neck of the man to not give a fuck playing in the ‘third most-watched sporting event in the world’. Dustin Johnson though, damn. The lad couldn’t hit a cow’s arse with a banjo. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryder-cup-2010-discussion/555519/52 "2010-10-03T20:56:19Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > The Tiger team got their horns honked, 5 and 4. They will have plenty of rest before Mondays singles, assuming it does not rain out. Phil is not having a good cup either. Our biggest names failing on the biggest stage. Tiger and Stricker are responsible for about 30% of the U.S. teams points. Mickleson has contributed nothing. He’s now the losingest player in Ryder Cup history. I wonder if it’s just that he’s bad in this kind of format or if people just don’t like playing with him. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryder-cup-2010-discussion/555519/53 "2010-10-03T22:32:56Z")
I doubt that while on the course you think about your partners jerkiness or ego. If you did Colon Montgomery would not be the winningest Ryder Cupper of all time. I wonder who faces Tiger tomorrow. They don’t have to put their star against him. They can put a Molinari on him and have a good chance. Phil will not draw Westwood either. Mcilroy and Tiger would be interesting. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryder-cup-2010-discussion/555519/54 "2010-10-03T22:36:47Z")
[http://voices.washingtonpost.com/early-lead/2010/10/ryder\_cup\_singles\_matches\_begi.html](http://voices.washingtonpost.com/early-lead/2010/10/ryder_cup_singles_matches_begi.html) And here they are. Tiger vs Molinari. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryder-cup-2010-discussion/555519/55 "2010-10-03T22:48:18Z")
Stricker v Westwood. The Euros are trying to derail Stricker with their best Cink v Mcilroy experience against youth Furyk v Donald good match Furyk finished strong this season Johnson v Kaymer tossup Kuchar v Polter Kuchar has been choking and Polter is seasoned Overton v Fisher who v who Bubba v Jimenez battle of the rocket launchers. Dustin better relax Tiger v F. Molinari should have been an insult but is not now Fowler v E. Molinari If Fowler relaxes he can win it Phil v hanson Another insult that makes sense now Johnson v harrington harringtons cousin was a lousy QB so he deserves to lose Mahan v McDowell Last match. Crank up the stress on Hunter and see if he can survive. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryder-cup-2010-discussion/555519/56 "2010-10-03T23:02:55Z")
> [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > Tiger and Stricker are responsible for about 30% of the U.S. teams points. Not as impressive when you realize they are playing the scrubs of the Euro team. They got the easiest draw in the first two sessions. But when they played someone that was actually ranked in the top 15 in the world rankings, they got beat like the proverbial drum. We might as well nickname his partner, **Strickertariet** because Tiger rode him like a thoroughbred. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2010, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryder-cup-2010-discussion/555519/57 "2010-10-03T23:50:48Z")
> [@](#): > > Montgomerie struggled to contain his amazement – and delight – at Pavin’s bizarre selection decision. > > “I am trying to be as diplomatic as possible throughout this week, and I continue to be that way,” said Montgomerie. “But it does surprise me that Match 8 and Match 10 contain the No. 1 and [No.] two in the world.” [http://sports.yahoo.com/golf/pga/news?slug=ro-woods100310](http://sports.yahoo.com/golf/pga/news?slug=ro-woods100310) ---
**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryder-cup-2010-discussion/555519/58 "2010-10-04T00:21:08Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Stricker v Westwood. The Euros are trying to derail Stricker with their best Europe > [@](#): > > Cink v Mcilroy experience against youth US > [@](#): > > Furyk v Donald good match Furyk finished strong this season US > [@](#): > > Johnson v Kaymer tossup Europe > [@](#): > > Kuchar v Polter Kuchar has been choking and Polter is seasoned Europe > [@](#): > > Overton v Fisher who v who Europe (Fisher carried Harrington). > [@](#): > > Bubba v Jimenez battle of the rocket launchers. Dustin better relax Jiminez is no “rocket launcher” and has a poor Ryder Cup record, so US. > [@](#): > > Tiger v F. Molinari should have been an insult but is not now US, but the other Molinari would beat Tiger. > [@](#): > > Fowler v E. Molinari If Fowler relaxes he can win it Europe > [@](#): > > Phil v hanson Another insult that makes sense now US > [@](#): > > Johnson v harrington harringtons cousin was a lousy QB so he deserves to lose US - Harrington is so out of form. > [@](#): > > Mahan v McDowell Last match. Crank up the stress on Hunter and see if he can survive. If this match counts, McDowell has the better nerves, so Europe. Where does that leave us? 6-6, so Europe regains the cup. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryder-cup-2010-discussion/555519/59 "2010-10-04T02:25:53Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Tiger v F. Molinari should have been an insult but is not now An insult by whom; how are the various matchups selected? Does each captain list their players in order (without knowing the order of the other team), or is there a back-and-forth of some kind so each captain can get some of the pairings he wants? ---
**Author:** ![amarone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e0b2c6/32.png) [@amarone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarone)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryder-cup-2010-discussion/555519/60 "2010-10-04T02:31:02Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > > [@gonzomax](#): > > > > Tiger v F. Molinari should have been an insult but is not now > > An insult by whom; how are the various matchups selected? Does each captain list their players in order (without knowing the order of the other team) Yes. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryder-cup-2010-discussion/555519.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryder-cup-2010-discussion/555519.md?page=4)