# Ryle Dup gets how many free passes?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryle-dup-gets-how-many-free-passes/199721>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 5, 2003, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryle-dup-gets-how-many-free-passes/199721 "2003-09-05T13:48:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2003, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryle-dup-gets-how-many-free-passes/199721/21 "2003-09-06T00:41:50Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Jessity \*  
> \*\*I can quite sympathize with his problems, and dearly hope he gets the help he needs, whatever that may be. That said, he’s 14 years old. Perhaps the internet isn’t the best place for him to be working out these problems? \*\*

What she said.  
Seriously, he’s fourteen? Oy, that’s a bit young. I don’t think he should be thrown out, but if someone could contact his family, maybe that would help?

I don’t think the SDMB should be playing psychiatrists. Supportive, yes, definitely. But I’ve had people use me as their version of therapy in the past, and it’s incredibly overwhelming.

It’s not fair to us, and it’s not fair to him, either.

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**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2003, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryle-dup-gets-how-many-free-passes/199721/22 "2003-09-06T01:13:03Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*  
> But I’ve had people use me as their version of therapy in the past, and it’s incredibly overwhelming.

What version of therapy are you useful for?

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**Author:** ![teleute12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@teleute12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teleute12)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2003, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryle-dup-gets-how-many-free-passes/199721/23 "2003-09-06T01:34:29Z")

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**cole burner** , I haven’t noticed Ryle Dup trying to get out of anything. He was called on starting the Canvas Shoes thread, and he didn’t say anything about his past suicidal thoughts in the Jessity thread, or try to back out of getting the thread closed or anything. If you feel uncomfortable with him knowing that he has trouble with depression, that’s your problem, not his.

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**Author:** ![RoundGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/90ced4/32.png) [@RoundGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RoundGuy)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2003, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryle-dup-gets-how-many-free-passes/199721/24 "2003-09-06T01:46:07Z")

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What the hell is a 14-year old doing on the SDMB?

Shouldn’t he be out skateboarding, roller blading, playing basketball, or reading J.R.R Tolkien?

WTF? He needs to get a life. The SDMB is not a life. It’s a diversion.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2003, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryle-dup-gets-how-many-free-passes/199721/25 "2003-09-06T01:48:59Z")

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We wouldn’t want to make **cole burner** _uncomfortable_ now would we ? **Please** everyone, let’s try to hold back from saying or discussing anything that would make **cole burner** uncomfortable. In polite society, everyone _except_ **cole burner** has a responsibility to “watch their steps.” Let’s not forget that, or the terrorists will win !

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**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2003, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryle-dup-gets-how-many-free-passes/199721/26 "2003-09-06T01:56:18Z")

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Oh **Squink** , since Ryle has free passes the terrorists have already won!

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**Author:** ![StanDup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e5b9ba/32.png) [@StanDup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StanDup)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2003, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryle-dup-gets-how-many-free-passes/199721/27 "2003-09-06T02:14:52Z")

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> \*Originally posted by RoundGuy \*  
> \*\*What the hell is a 14-year old doing on the SDMB?
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> Shouldn’t he be out skateboarding, roller blading, playing basketball, or reading J.R.R Tolkien?
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> WTF? He needs to get a life. The SDMB is not a life. It’s a diversion. \*\*

Listen to me, RoundGuy (I’m not even going to acknowledge you by bolding your name), I’m fourteen years of age, I skateboard, I rollerblade, I read Tolkien. I know Ryle Dup, and he’s one of the most active guys I know. If you are so narrow-minded and dickheaded as to believe that 14 year olds can’t contribute to the boards like these adults do (some of them definitely don’t act like adults, you included.), then I feel sorry for you. If you can’t accept the fact that, yes 14 year olds ARE on the SDMB, then tough shit. I’m ALSO sorry for you because it seems like you judge people by their ages. I didn’t want to have to do this, but you can’t say something like that and not expect to get called out for it. By the way, has it occurred to you that this was during summer vacation, the time where there is a lot of free time? Dick.:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Bandanaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3ab097/32.png) [@Bandanaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bandanaman)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2003, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryle-dup-gets-how-many-free-passes/199721/28 "2003-09-06T02:28:30Z")

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Wonder what’ll happen if I throw this penny on the tracks.

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**Author:** ![Ryle\_Dup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Ryle\_Dup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryle_Dup)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2003, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryle-dup-gets-how-many-free-passes/199721/29 "2003-09-06T02:28:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by RoundGuy \*  
> \*\*What the hell is a 14-year old doing on the SDMB?
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> Shouldn’t he be out skateboarding, roller blading, playing basketball, or reading J.R.R Tolkien?
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> WTF? He needs to get a life. The SDMB is not a life. It’s a diversion. \*\*

Stop beating your wife, you wife beating alchohalic lowlife loser.  
See? I can make assumptions too.

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**Author:** ![StanDup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e5b9ba/32.png) [@StanDup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StanDup)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2003, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryle-dup-gets-how-many-free-passes/199721/30 "2003-09-06T02:52:29Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lord Ashtar \*  
> \*\*Some do, which is why it should be taken seriously. My understanding (which is perhaps wrong, I’m willing to admit that) is that most of the time when someone yells, “I’m going to kill myself!” it’s no more than a cry for attention. Then again, I seem to remember in the other thread someone saying they knew **Ryle Dup** IRL and that he was having problems. In which case, ignore what I said earlier. \*\*

**L A** , I understand what you are trying to say, but I’ve told people I was going to kill myself, and have gone through with it. If only people took me seriously, it would have saved me many years of pain, stays at the hospital, medications and shrinks.

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**Author:** ![Scotticher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Scotticher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scotticher)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2003, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryle-dup-gets-how-many-free-passes/199721/31 "2003-09-06T03:03:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by cole burner \*  
> \*\*There is a REASON to bring up the past, even if its embarrssing, and that reason is to prevent problems in the future.
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> I don’t like the idea that I have to watch my step around a poster.\*\*

Then don’t. Don’t watch your step around him. Say whatever you normally would. If you feel like it, make him feel worse about himself than he already does. THAT would be classy.

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> \*\*If I’m Pitted, I feel it’s my right to give back as strongly as I get. But now we have a poster who’s still free to enter the Pit and attack people, but has a magical Get-Out-of-Jail-Free card. He’s like the little brother who hits the big brother, confident that if Big Bro gets pissed and starts whaling on him, he can always cry, “Moooom!” And of course Mom’s response will be, “Don’t hit your baby brother!”

\*\*

Yeah, got your meaning. Your analogy is sound. Your little brother is going to complain to mom because you hit him. Say, is that going to prevent him from getting UP in the morning?

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> \*\*Yes, he’s 14, yes, he’s got real problems. I wish him the best in solving them. But who here thinks that the best way for a severely depressed, suicidal fourteen-year-old to cope with his problems is a message board?

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Well, this is apparently the place he chose to ask for help. So, we shoud tell him to “buzz off” and find someone ELSE to talk to? Because he is “only fourteen” and this is an adult forum? So adults cannot help? Or adults do not care?

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> \*\*Sorry. I think that if you choose to play here, you don’t get to play the suicide card to get out of trouble, it’s a form of emotional blackmail and I don’t agree that catering to it is right. As someone who’s not an adult, he doesn’t necessarily have the right to decide to kill himself, but he doesn’t have the right to trash people here and then hide behind the threat either. \*\*

I’m not sure I LIKE you all that much.

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**Author:** ![RoundGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/90ced4/32.png) [@RoundGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RoundGuy)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2003, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryle-dup-gets-how-many-free-passes/199721/32 "2003-09-06T03:59:27Z")

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> Listen to me, RoundGuy (I’m not even going to acknowledge you by bolding your name), I’m fourteen years of age, I skateboard, I rollerblade, I read Tolkien.

It’s so nice to see that 14-year olds actually act like 14-year olds.

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> Dick.

It’s so nice to see that 14-year olds actually act like 14-year olds.

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> By the way, has it occurred to you that this was during summer vacation, the time where there is a lot of free time?

Yes, but unfortunatley now that school has started, it doesn’t seemed to have stopped you from posting. Go play.

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**Author:** ![Ryle\_Dup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Ryle\_Dup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryle_Dup)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2003, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryle-dup-gets-how-many-free-passes/199721/33 "2003-09-06T04:08:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by RoundGuy \*  
> \*\*It’s so nice to see that 14-year olds actually act like 14-year olds.
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> It’s so nice to see that 14-year olds actually act like 14-year olds.
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> Yes, but unfortunatley now that school has started, it doesn’t seemed to have stopped you from posting. Go play. \*\*

It’s so nice to see that some germans fit the stereotypical german nazi type.  
Unfortunatley you seem to have some method of supporting yourself that allows you to continue posting, while our ‘occupation’ is learning, we still have free time too.

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**Author:** ![hyperjes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/df705f/32.png) [@hyperjes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hyperjes)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2003, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryle-dup-gets-how-many-free-passes/199721/34 "2003-09-06T04:10:09Z")

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**cole burner** , did you seriously just Pit a fourteen year old child- one who is hurting, none-the-less, and needs love and support from wherever he may find it- for _irritating_ you?! :rolleyes:

Yes, yes you did.

Ye Gods, man. Were you never fourteen? It’s their natural right to irritate you, if you choose to associate with them. Many kids that age are still working out social and societal boundaries. (Notice the qualifier, _many_, **Ryle**. I can’t say with any certainty that this is the case for you.)

Frankly, if you can’t deal with him, why even open his threads or read his posts? The board is huge. There must be something that would bother you less.

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**Author:** ![StanDup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e5b9ba/32.png) [@StanDup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StanDup)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2003, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryle-dup-gets-how-many-free-passes/199721/35 "2003-09-06T04:13:52Z")

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> \*Originally posted by RoundGuy \*  
> \*\*It’s so nice to see that 14-year olds actually act like 14-year olds.
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> It’s so nice to see that 14-year olds actually act like 14-year olds.
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> Yes, but unfortunatley now that school has started, it doesn’t seemed to have stopped you from posting. Go play. \*\*

It’s nice to see that adults actually act like adults who tell fourteen year olds to “go play”.

May I reiterate?

Dick.

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**Author:** ![RoundGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/90ced4/32.png) [@RoundGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RoundGuy)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2003, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryle-dup-gets-how-many-free-passes/199721/36 "2003-09-06T04:38:09Z")

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> It’s so nice to see that some germans fit the stereotypical german nazi type.

Oh God. That sure didn’t take long, did it…

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> It’s nice to see that adults actually act like adults who tell fourteen year olds to “go play”.

Look, you little piece of rat shit, I’ve lived on this earth a score and five years longer than you have. I’ve _forgotten_ more about life than you’ve yet experienced.

If you can provide evidence that it is acceptable, sound treatment for a depressed, suicidal 14-year old to vent on a _fucking Internet message board_ then I will listen, and will be appreciative of the enlightenment.

But if you can’t, then may I say, in words you can understand – piss off you little snot-nosed fuck.

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**Author:** ![Ryle\_Dup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Ryle\_Dup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryle_Dup)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2003, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryle-dup-gets-how-many-free-passes/199721/37 "2003-09-06T04:42:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by RoundGuy \*  
> \*\*  
> If you can provide evidence that it is acceptable, sound treatment for a depressed, suicidal 14-year old to vent on a _fucking Internet message board_ then I will listen, and will be appreciative of the enlightenment.  
> \*\*

Before I posted it, I was cutting my wrists slowly daily with broken glass.

I met Topaz and others, now it’s alot better, proof enough?

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2003, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryle-dup-gets-how-many-free-passes/199721/38 "2003-09-06T04:55:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by RoundGuy \*  
> **If you can provide evidence that it is acceptable, sound treatment for a depressed, suicidal 14-year old to vent on a _fucking Internet message board_ then I will listen, and will be appreciative of the enlightenment.**

If it’s a bad idea, it’s because of fucks like you.

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**Author:** ![Scotticher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Scotticher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scotticher)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2003, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryle-dup-gets-how-many-free-passes/199721/39 "2003-09-06T05:02:03Z")

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> \*Originally posted by RoundGuy \*  
> \*\*Oh God. That sure didn’t take long, did it…
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> Look, you little piece of rat shit, I’ve lived on this earth a score and five years longer than you have. I’ve _forgotten_ more about life than you’ve yet experienced.
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> If you can provide evidence that it is acceptable, sound treatment for a depressed, suicidal 14-year old to vent on a _fucking Internet message board_ then I will listen, and will be appreciative of the enlightenment.
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> But if you can’t, then may I say, in words you can understand – piss off you little snot-nosed fuck. \*\*

To Whom, MAY I ask, are you addressing this?

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**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2003, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ryle-dup-gets-how-many-free-passes/199721/40 "2003-09-06T05:02:39Z")

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This is getting ugly.

Let’s respect people. No matter what age, no matter what nationality, okay?

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