# Rzorsharp's Gonna Cry... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 2, 2004, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rzorsharps-gonna-cry/272571 "2004-11-02T17:08:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rzorsharps-gonna-cry/272571/181 "2004-11-17T01:46:10Z")
> [@Razorsharp](#): > > Oh, liberals support it alright. > > **Blatant hypocrisy**? It’s acceptable for a liberal candidate for President to have dodged the draft. A conservative is to be vilified. > > **Welfare broodmares**? Liberal’s love 'em, they just sugar-coat 'em with a more pleasant sounding nomenclature. They call 'em “single-moms”. And they really love 'em when they can get their cohorts in the media to paint a caricature of the poor single-mom as one who has been victimized by a man. Nevermind the fact that she is such a shrew that she could never hold the attention of a man any longer than a one-night-stand. > > **Those who play the racecard**? Liberals pee all over themselves when the “reverends”, Jackson and Sharpton, agitate. > > **A “free press” that attempts to influence an election**? As long as it’s for their candidate, they’ll gladly sacrifice the truth for ideology. > > **An entertainment media that attempts to brainwash the populace**? Mention the term “hate-crime”, and the average person will automatically conjure up a mental image of a white persecuting a minority, although, FBI crime statistics reveal that, according to their population, whites are several times more likely to be the victims of a crime perpetrated by a minority, than the vice-versa. Think this “Through the Looking Glass” worldview came about just by happenstance? Ah, now I see **Razorsharp** ’s problem. Like many such cranks, he believes that his own opinions constitute factual evidence for his assertions. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rzorsharps-gonna-cry/272571/182 "2004-11-17T04:03:33Z")
Gosh, I gave some intermittent thought today on how to crush our dull rusty Razor, but it looks like I’ve been beaten to the punch. Good show. ---
**Author:** ![GomiBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@GomiBoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GomiBoy)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rzorsharps-gonna-cry/272571/183 "2004-11-17T08:43:56Z")
Still trying to convince us you’re intellect reincarnated, my delicate little flower? > [@Razorsharp](#): > > **Blatant hypocrisy**? It’s acceptable for a liberal candidate for President to have dodged the draft. A conservative is to be vilified. Anyone who dodges the draft, then attempts to sell himself as a warrior and a fighter, deserves to get villified. And if I recall correctly, when the last ‘draft dodger’ was running for president, he was villified. Still won, but he was villified. > [@Razorsharp](#): > > **Welfare broodmares**? Liberal’s love 'em, they just sugar-coat 'em with a more pleasant sounding nomenclature. They call 'em “single-moms”. And they really love 'em when they can get their cohorts in the media to paint a caricature of the poor single-mom as one who has been victimized by a man. Nevermind the fact that she is such a shrew that she could never hold the attention of a man any longer than a one-night-stand. Ah, the old misogynist is back for another trot 'round the campus. Tell me, do you hate them because they suck up welfare dollars you’d like to try to receive, or simply because they won’t fuck you? You seem like such an attractive person, if you discount personality… > [@Razorsharp](#): > > **Those who play the racecard**? Liberals pee all over themselves when the “reverends”, Jackson and Sharpton, agitate. Conservatives play the racecard too, just play it the other way by telling us we should fear the black man and the brown man and put as many of them in prison as we possibly can and shoot them if they’re a bunch of weasely foreigners. > [@Razorsharp](#): > > **A “free press” that attempts to influence an election**? As long as it’s for their candidate, they’ll gladly sacrifice the truth for ideology. You’re telling me Faux News didn’t sacrifice truth and ethics to fellate the president during this election cycle? You’re saying they weren’t trying to influence the election? I think Rupert Murdoch might take exception to that. > [@Razorsharp](#): > > **An entertainment media that attempts to brainwash the populace**? Mention the term “hate-crime”, and the average person will automatically conjure up a mental image of a white persecuting a minority, although, FBI crime statistics reveal that, according to their population, whites are several times more likely to be the victims of a crime perpetrated by a minority, than the vice-versa. Think this “Through the Looking Glass” worldview came about just by happenstance? Oh, get over it - it’s the job of the media to try to brainwash the populace. Smart people realize this and ignore it, dumb ones don’t, and the really stupid ones get all up in arms about some vast conspiracy when it’s just capitalism at work, selling to the lowest common denominator, just like always. This is fun, to club your arguments to death like the baby seal you are. Care to try again? ---
**Author:** ![Razorsharp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@Razorsharp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Razorsharp)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rzorsharps-gonna-cry/272571/184 "2004-11-17T11:44:50Z")
> [@andros](#): > > First of all, that link doesn’t go where you think it does. Here, try this one: [http://www.mediapost.com/dtls\_dsp\_news.cfm?cb=064335A&newsID=276049&newsDate=10/29/2004](http://www.mediapost.com/dtls_dsp_news.cfm?cb=064335A&newsID=276049&newsDate=10/29/2004) > [@](#): > > So I can’t comment on the quality of the reporting. Right, I suppose you require something reputable, like CBS. > [@](#): > > Second, yes. Several. Let’s see 'em. > [@](#): > > But it doesn’t matter to you, does it? You want to buy what they’re selling, the myth of the monolithic liberal media, and nothing I can say will change that. So, you have fun, Sparky. Aw, come on, humor me. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rzorsharps-gonna-cry/272571/185 "2004-11-17T11:58:51Z")
> [@Razorsharp](#): > > Aw, come on, humor me. You only have to humour people when they pose a threat to themselves or others. When they’re petty and harmless, you can safely ridicule them. Loooooo-zer. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rzorsharps-gonna-cry/272571/186 "2004-11-17T12:16:39Z")
Come on Razor, you can do better than that one. The article reads like it is talking about advertising dollars and merchandising. And I quote: > [@](#): > > Asked which candidate would be better for the ad industry specifically, the ratio of pro-Kerry support was essentially the same–55 percent versus 27 percent for Bush–but the percentage of respondents who said they were unsure was much greater (17 percent). > > “Preemptive wars, weak dollar policy and high deficits created by [George W. Bush] negatively affect the U.S. economy, which in turn negatively affects advertising,” said one Kerry supporter, echoing the main sentiments of other pro-Kerry respondents Of course, the network being more concerned about ad revenue was Bryan Ekers point. Are you attempting to find a bridge to compromise here 😕 I know that there are better cites you can give about the liberal media. Certainly you can do better than a 202 person study of “the nation’s media planners and buyers.” Baby seals indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Razorsharp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@Razorsharp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Razorsharp)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rzorsharps-gonna-cry/272571/187 "2004-11-17T12:19:12Z")
> [@GomiBoy](#): > > Still trying to convince us you’re intellect reincarnated, my delicate little flower? “intellect reincarnated”?? With that fabrication, evidently you are trying to portray yourself as such. So, dumbass, when was intellect ever incarnate? > [@](#): > > Anyone who dodges the draft, then attempts to sell himself as a warrior and a fighter, deserves to get villified. And if I recall correctly, when the last ‘draft dodger’ was running for president, he was villified. Still won, but he was villified. Right, just as I said, a conservative gets vilified, a liberal, a la Bill Clinton, gets a pass for draft-dodging. And I bet you thought you made a point of some sorts. > [@](#): > > Ah, the old misogynist is back for another trot 'round the campus. Tell me, do you hate them because they suck up welfare dollars you’d like to try to receive, or simply because they won’t fuck you? You seem like such an attractive person, if you discount personality… One of the techniques liberals use, is to brand their ideological advesaries with a label that has a negative connotation. As those who are critical of such social engineering programs as “affirmative action”, are often labeled racist, you label me a misogynist for being critical of liberal social programs that are directly responsible for encouraging those who are incapable of adequately supporting themselves, to procreate. > [@](#): > > Conservatives play the racecard too, just play it the other way by telling us we should fear the black man and the brown man and put as many of them in prison as we possibly can and shoot them if they’re a bunch of weasely foreigners. Got any examples of such, or do you just willingly consume all the pabulum that oozes from the telescreen? > [@](#): > > You’re telling me Faux News didn’t sacrifice truth and ethics to fellate the president during this election cycle? You’re saying they weren’t trying to influence the election? I think Rupert Murdoch might take exception to that. Give me an example of Fox News sacrificing the truth, that even approaches what CBS did. > [@](#): > > Oh, get over it - it’s the job of the media to try to brainwash the populace. Smart people realize this and ignore it, dumb ones don’t, and the really stupid ones get all up in arms about some vast conspiracy when it’s just capitalism at work, selling to the lowest common denominator, just like always. > > This is fun, to club your arguments to death like the baby seal you are. Care to try again? You keep on fantasizing, punk. You ain’t clubbed nuthin’, you’ve been bitch-slapped every time. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rzorsharps-gonna-cry/272571/188 "2004-11-17T12:19:39Z")
Ah, found the thread I was looking for. Don’t mean to post again, but the search was slow :o Here’s the most recent debates thread on the “liberal media.” Maybe you can find something in [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=284221) Razor. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rzorsharps-gonna-cry/272571/189 "2004-11-17T12:25:14Z")
> [@Razorsharp](#): > > One of the techniques liberals use, is to brand their ideological advesaries with a label that has a negative connotation. Wow, there’s more irony in here than an anvil factory. ---
**Author:** ![Razorsharp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@Razorsharp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Razorsharp)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rzorsharps-gonna-cry/272571/190 "2004-11-17T12:35:41Z")
> [@Harborwolf](#): > > Come on Razor, you can do better than that one. The article reads like it is talking about advertising dollars and merchandising. > > Of course, the network being more concerned about ad revenue was Bryan Ekers point. Are you attempting to find a bridge to compromise here 😕 > > I know that there are better cites you can give about the liberal media. Certainly you can do better than a 202 person study of “the nation’s media planners and buyers.” At this point, I ain’t addressing Eker’s “through the Looking Glass” point-of-view. I’m addressing **andros’** contention that “media bosses” voted Bush. This would be the pertinant quote. > [@](#): > > By a margin of nearly two-to-one, media executives would like to see John Kerry elected president versus George W. Bush, according to results of a survey of the MediaPost Advisory Panel conducted online this week by InsightExpress. It would help if you could keep track. (And to think that you were patting yourself on the back with your “baby seals” comment.) At least you could use your own material. ---
**Author:** ![GomiBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@GomiBoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GomiBoy)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rzorsharps-gonna-cry/272571/191 "2004-11-17T12:58:04Z")
> [@Razorsharp](#): > > “intellect reincarnated”?? With that fabrication, evidently you are trying to portray yourself as such. Never have I, and never will I, portrayed myself as anything other than what I am. While I know that I am smarter, more well-read, and better educated than you, I don’t presume for a minute to be the bearer of all knowledge, and know when I don’t know something and ask. I also defer to those I believe know more than I do, and attempt to learn from them, even if it’s just a little thing like common human courtesy. A lesson you can’t seem to learn in any forum. You, on the other hand, seem to think merely saying something, loudly and frequently, makes it true. I have yet to see you prove anything, other than how idiotic your arguments are and how completely uncivil you choose to be in every discussion you choose to start or take part in. You’re awful tough behind your keyboard, throwing out the insults and all, but you’re ignorant, paranoid, and a coward, and the frequent dogpiles you are subjected to in every thread you start or join are a great indicator of that. I know you’re a legend in your own mind, and I hope that keeps you happy. As for bitch-slapping, why should I bother when you do it all yourself? ---
**Author:** ![norinew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/eb9ed0/32.png) [@norinew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/norinew)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rzorsharps-gonna-cry/272571/192 "2004-11-17T13:15:57Z")
> [@GomiBoy](#): > > As for bitch-slapping, why should I bother when you do it all yourself? Perhaps he has it confused with masturbation 😛 . ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rzorsharps-gonna-cry/272571/193 "2004-11-17T13:16:36Z")
> [@Razorsharp](#): > > At this point, I ain’t addressing Eker’s “through the Looking Glass” point-of-view. I’m addressing **andros’** contention that “media bosses” voted Bush. This would be the pertinant quote. Did you actually read that whole article? Their use of the term “media executives” is a little confusing. They’re talking about ad executives and ad buyers. In fact, one of the reasons given for media buyers supporting Kerry is: > [@](#): > > “No. 2,” continued the panelist, “Bush has FCC Chairman [Michael] Powell in his pocket. The new FCC has already tried to divert more power to TV broadcasting moguls, which would work against the benefits of free competition, and end up raising advertising prices and generally stifling the advertising industry. Advertising would be out of the reach of smaller entities.” So, these guys are so worried that Bush will give the broadcasters (like CBS) more power that they’re voting for Kerry, but supposedly CBS’s higher-ups are also going to vote against the guy giving them all this power. Say what with the who again? ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rzorsharps-gonna-cry/272571/194 "2004-11-17T15:05:21Z")
Razor, you should read your own cites a bit better. and again I quote from your own cite. > [@](#): > > **among the nation’s media planners and buyers** And the thread posted was for your benefit, not mine. From what I read, the people in there have a much better idea as to where to find proof of the liberal media. You clearly need the help. Like I said Razor, surely you can do better than this. Sell me on this liberal media line. Make me believe in the power of Limbaugh (can I get a "Praise Murdoch from the congregation!). Better yet, back up any of your broad sweeping painting with the big brush generalizations. How about this one. posted by **razorsharp** > [@](#): > > **Blatant hypocrisy**? It’s acceptable for a liberal candidate for President to have dodged the draft. A conservative is to be vilified. So when Clinton ran for President his draft dodging was no big deal from the conservatives? Hypocrisy runs rampant amongst both parties. posted by **you know who** > [@](#): > > **Welfare broodmares**? Liberal’s love 'em, they just sugar-coat 'em with a more pleasant sounding nomenclature. They call 'em “single-moms”. And they really love 'em when they can get their cohorts in the media to paint a caricature of the poor single-mom as one who has been victimized by a man. Nevermind the fact that she is such a shrew that she could never hold the attention of a man any longer than a one-night-stand. [IRISH COP] That’s right. Move along people. Nothing offensive here. Just move along[/IRISH COP] Lumping a lot of people into this one aren’t you. It really does sound like you hate women. Mommy didn’t hug you enough? Back this one up with _anything_. posted by **a person with a lot of issues** > [@](#): > > **Those who play the racecard**? Liberals pee all over themselves when the “reverends”, Jackson and Sharpton, agitate. Again, back it up. You don’t even have to provide proof of them peeing. Give me anything that shows that a large number of liberals support everything that these two do. Yeah, **it’s Razor again**. > [@](#): > > **An entertainment media that attempts to brainwash the populace**? Mention the term “hate-crime”, and the average person will automatically conjure up a mental image of a white persecuting a minority, although, FBI crime statistics reveal that, according to their population, whites are several times more likely to be the victims of a crime perpetrated by a minority, than the vice-versa. Think this “Through the Looking Glass” worldview came about just by happenstance? I honestly don’t know where this is going. You start with “entertainment media” which makes me think celebrities. Then you move on to hate crimes, which not many people without white hoods on their head think is entertaining. Care to specify on this one. Come on Razor, put some effort into this. Your just starting to get entertaining. Don’t let me down. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Razorsharp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@Razorsharp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Razorsharp)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rzorsharps-gonna-cry/272571/195 "2004-11-17T16:05:12Z")
> [@GomiBoy](#): > > Never have I, and never will I, portrayed myself as anything other than what I am. While I know that I am smarter, more well-read, and better educated than you,… Yeah, hence “intellect reincarnated”. Obviously, you are neither of the three. Let me rephrase, out of the three, you may be better educated, that I cannot tell. What I can tell, is that you don’t show it. Of course, today’s education, as a result of academe’s infection with liberalism, is not up to the same standards as it was forty years ago. As for the rest of your rant, look dickhead, you made the decision to start it with me. Since you have allowed yourself to be put into such a tizzie, I am obviously out of your league. Oh, and me being behind a keyboard ain’t got nuthin’ to do with me callin’ it, like I see it. You don’t want to fuck with a fifty-three year-old man like me. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rzorsharps-gonna-cry/272571/196 "2004-11-17T16:33:39Z")
> [@Razorsharp](#): > > Yeah, hence “intellect reincarnated”. Obviously, you are neither of the three. Let me rephrase, out of the three, you may be better educated, that I cannot tell. What I can tell, is that you don’t show it. _Of course, today’s education, as a result of academe’s infection with liberalism, is not up to the same standards as it was forty years ago_. [GRANPA SIMPSON]Ya damn right it don’t. Back in my day we appreciated the education we got. Comes from walking dikkety miles in the snow just to get to school. We had to use the word dikkety cause the kaiser had stolen our word twenty. I chased after him, but got tired after dikkety-three miles. Anyways, there I am sitting in my class with an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time, when Timmy Matthews sasses the school marm. Well, she fetched him a whuppin he tweren’t never gonna fergit. He appreciated his education that day I tell you what. 😃 [/GRANPA SIMPSON] So Razor, I hope you are going to provide some back up for this statement too. Please don’t leave us young-uns out in the cold without your wisdom to warm ourselves with. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Razorsharp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@Razorsharp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Razorsharp)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rzorsharps-gonna-cry/272571/197 "2004-11-17T17:48:43Z")
> [@Harborwolf](#): > > Razor, you should read your own cites a bit better. > > and again I quote from your own cite. You must have gone through the same education system that **Gomiboy** did. The cite that I linked is not my own cite. It is a cite that I used to counter **andros’** claim that media bosses preferred Bush over Kerry. I don’t know for sure whether they do or not, that was the only cite I could find. But, neither could I find a cite that confirmed **andros’** proclaimation, and neither has **andros** provided a link that confirms his/her statement. > [@](#): > > Like I said Razor, surely you can do better than this. Sell me on this liberal media line. My previous link should have been sufficient, but, as they say, “there are none so blind as those who absolutely refuse to see.” **…study after study shows that Rather, Jennings and Brokaw are wrong: the newsrooms of major media outlets are not filled with non-ideological “common sense moderates,” nor do they reflect a diverse range of ideological viewpoints. Surveys over the past 25 years have consistently found journalists are much more liberal than rest of America. Their voting habits are disproportionately Democratic,…** [http://www.mediaresearch.org/Specia...rt063004\_p1.asp](http://www.mediaresearch.org/Specia...rt063004_p1.asp) > [@](#): > > Better yet, back up any of your broad sweeping painting with the big brush generalizations. > How about this one. So, when Clinton ran for President his draft dodging was no big deal from the conservatives? Hypocrisy runs rampant amongst both parties. I see you too are struggling to make a point. Here, I’ll go slow for ya. Yes, conservatives did **attempt** to make Clinton’s actual draft-dodging an issue. However, liberals claimed that Clinton’s draft-dodging was inconsequential to his Presidential aspirations. The media’s presentation of Clinton’s draft-dodging was kept to a CYA minimum. Now, to the converse. Liberals compared Bush’s service in the Guard to draft-dodging. (as though dodging the draft really was a liberal concern. Hell-fire, it was a fuckin’ masquerade.) Their media allies trumpeted the liberal accusations against Bush, whereas, the media whispered the details of Clinton’s draft-dodging. Here’s the deal… Bush did serve, Clinton left the country to avoid the draft and the keeping of a promise to join the University of Arkansas ROTC, after he got Senator William Fulbright to pull strings for him. Do you get it now? > [@](#): > > Lumping a lot of people into this one aren’t you. It really does sound like you hate women. Mommy didn’t hug you enough? Back this one up with _anything_. Perhaps I did paint with too broad a stroke on this one, but, what can I say, if the shoe doesn’t fit, then don’t force it on your foot. Anyways, like I said, liberal sponsored legislation has resulted in those, who cannot adequately support themselves, finding it advantageous to procreate at society’s expense. > [@](#): > > Again, back it up. You don’t even have to provide proof of them peeing. Give me anything that shows that a large number of liberals support everything that these two do. Good God, what else can explain four decades of such charlatans being center-stage of the Democratic party, other than an adoration that can only be described as peeing on oneself? > [@](#): > > I honestly don’t know where this is going. You start with “entertainment media” which makes me think celebrities. Then you move on to hate crimes, which not many people without white hoods on their head think is entertaining. Care to specify on this one. You need to get out more. Every year, Hollywood comes out with several films of the “Mississippi Burning” and “A Time to Kill” genre. This, in turn, greases the skids for the populace to embrace the establishment media/press, when it comes time to agitate, a la the “reverends”, by accusing Whitey of running rampant all along the South, burning down Black churches. Is it all coming clear to you now? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rzorsharps-gonna-cry/272571/198 "2004-11-17T17:53:49Z")
> [@Razorsharp](#): > > You must have gone through the same education system that **Gomiboy** did. The cite that I linked is not my own cite. It is a cite that I used to counter **andros’** claim that media bosses preferred Bush over Kerry. These words are different: “site” and “cite”. That is all. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rzorsharps-gonna-cry/272571/199 "2004-11-17T18:22:57Z")
> [@Razorsharp](#): > > You must have gone through the same education system that **Gomiboy** did. The cite that I linked is not my own cite. My fault I guess. I’ll clarify my sentence. “The cite that you used…” Is that better or is nitpicking a hobby of yours. By the by Razor, still no proof on how much better your education was. > [@Razorsharp](#): > > It is a cite that I used to counter **andros’** claim that media bosses preferred Bush over Kerry. I don’t know for sure whether they do or not, that was the only cite I could find. But, neither could I find a cite that confirmed **andros’** proclaimation, and neither has **andros** provided a link that confirms his/her statement.My previous link should have been sufficient, but, as they say, “there are none so blind as those who absolutely refuse to see.” > > **…study after study shows that Rather, Jennings and Brokaw are wrong: the newsrooms of major media outlets are not filled with non-ideological “common sense moderates,” nor do they reflect a diverse range of ideological viewpoints. Surveys over the past 25 years have consistently found journalists are much more liberal than rest of America. Their voting habits are disproportionately Democratic,…** > [http://www.mediaresearch.org/Specia...rt063004\_p1.asp](http://www.mediaresearch.org/Specia...rt063004_p1.asp) > I see you too are struggling to make a point. If that’s the best you can do, then you are struggling. Come on Razor, google me some proof. Spin me a web of media conspiracies so tight with logic that I cannot escape. The cite you gave before shows more how the media is out for profit than political gain. The link you give above does not work. As stated, surely you can do better. > [@Razorsharp](#): > > Here, I’ll go slow for ya. Careful there Razor, starting to sound like a frustrated adolescent From post #166 > [@Razorsharp](#): > > What’s more, I have reduced you to name-calling, like a frustrated adolescent. Toeing the line a bit aren’t you? > [@Razorsharp](#): > > Yes, conservatives did **attempt** to make Clinton’s actual draft-dodging an issue. However, liberals claimed that Clinton’s draft-dodging was inconsequential to his Presidential aspirations. The media’s presentation of Clinton’s draft-dodging was kept to a CYA minimum. > > Now, to the converse. > > Liberals compared Bush’s service in the Guard to draft-dodging. (as though dodging the draft really was a liberal concern. Hell-fire, it was a fuckin’ masquerade.) Their media allies trumpeted the liberal accusations against Bush, whereas, the media whispered the details of Clinton’s draft-dodging. > > Here’s the deal… Bush did serve, Clinton left the country to avoid the draft and the keeping of a promise to join the University of Arkansas ROTC, after he got Senator William Fulbright to pull strings for him. Wait, back to the liberal media again. Haven’t sold me on that one yet. As I said, hypocrisy is a part of both sides. The burden is on you to put it squarely as a liberal trait since you made that claim. > [@Razorsharp](#): > > Do you get it now?Perhaps I did paint with too broad a stroke on this one, but, what can I say, if the shoe doesn’t fit, then don’t force it on your foot. Anyways, like I said, liberal sponsored legislation has resulted in those, who cannot adequately support themselves, finding it advantageous to procreate at society’s expense. My turn to go slowly. P.R.O.V.E. I.T. Give me something to work with here. Convince me how “liberal sponsered legislation” has done this. Show me the evils of the single mother. It’s her fault for getting knocked up in the first place right. She’s the one that couldn’t close her legs. Tell me how the liberals and the single mothers are bankrupting the government. > [@Razorsharp](#): > > Good God, what else can explain four decades of such charlatans being center-stage of the Democratic party, other than an adoration that can only be described as peeing on oneself? I know what you mean. Just think of how close Al Sharpton was to winning the presidency this year. :rolleyes: Center stage… :rolleyes: Look, I’m a baby seal just laying here looking all cute. Club me with your reason. > [@Razorsharp](#): > > You need to get out more. Every year, Hollywood comes out with several films of the “Mississippi Burning” and “A Time to Kill” genre. This, in turn, greases the skids for the populace to embrace the establishment media/press, when it comes time to agitate, a la the “reverends”, by accusing Whitey of running rampant all along the South, burning down Black churches. This has to be the most ridiculous thing that I have ever read, and I’ve read Michael Moore. So Hollywood is making whitey hate itself which allows non-whites to play the race card? :eek: Please tell me that you are not saying that. Here, I’ll make it easy on you. A couple of years back some black students in Texas (if memory serves) started a brawl at a football game which resulted in suspensions being handed out. The whole thing was caught on home video. Jesse Jackson came down and protested saying that the students were suspended because they were black. Just connect Jesse Jackson to peeing liberals and you’re home free. > [@Razorsharp](#): > > Is it all coming clear to you now? Not even close. Speculation and personal belief do not a fact make. Keep trying though. ---
**Author:** ![GomiBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@GomiBoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GomiBoy)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2004, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rzorsharps-gonna-cry/272571/200 "2004-11-17T18:51:49Z")
> [@Razorsharp](#): > > Yeah, hence “intellect reincarnated”. Obviously, you are neither of the three. Let me rephrase, out of the three, you may be better educated, that I cannot tell. What I can tell, is that you don’t show it. Of course, today’s education, as a result of academe’s infection with liberalism, is not up to the same standards as it was forty years ago. > > As for the rest of your rant, look dickhead, you made the decision to start it with me. Since you have allowed yourself to be put into such a tizzie, I am obviously out of your league. > > Oh, and me being behind a keyboard ain’t got nuthin’ to do with me callin’ it, like I see it. You don’t want to fuck with a fifty-three year-old man like me. Sorry, old man, I do enjoy making you holler. Now that I have you spewing petty insults like an adolescent, I can sit back satisfied that I have accomplished the task I have set for myself. Guess you braindead cranks have your own sacred cows that don’t like goring, really… If you call that a rant, you must have been sheltered beyond belief for your entire 52 years of wasted oxygen. I used to rant when arguing with you. Then I figured that was what you wanted and stopped. now I just enjoy jerking your chain. I would say that my school, in Central Montana, was not exactly overrun with liberals judging by the number of gunracks and cowboy boots in the student body. Of course, most of my liberalism came from interacting with the rest of the world. People like you, who I am sure have never traveled outside the US except in the safety of a group, would never have that. And I pity you for it. Hope you like your little tiny neck of the woods, and I really hope you never leave it. You might actually learn something. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rzorsharps-gonna-cry/272571.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/rzorsharps-gonna-cry/272571.md?page=11)