# S.h.i.e.l.d 3.4.14 t.a.h.i.t.i **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 5, 2014, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899 "2014-03-05T03:07:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/21 "2014-03-05T16:27:12Z")
Something else that was interesting. Rather than hiding their Secret Base using encryption, they hid it using…ASCII Art? ---
**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/22 "2014-03-05T16:29:15Z")
> [@simster](#): > > Skye was only mostly dead - Coulson was completely dead. :smack: Yeah, and that. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/23 "2014-03-05T16:55:41Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > Something else that was interesting. Rather than hiding their Secret Base using encryption, they hid it using…ASCII Art? I ignored that whole scene. Worse User Interface ever! ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/24 "2014-03-05T17:03:30Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > And of course… what does T.A.H.I.T.I stand for? The alien housed inside the institute. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/25 "2014-03-05T17:05:19Z")
If you want a wild ass guess from outside of Marvel continuity, it’s Frankenstein’s monster. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/26 "2014-03-05T17:08:14Z")
An interesting question is why Garrett and Tripler were brought into the episode. They really didn’t do anything that the regular team couldn’t have done. So it appears they were just being introduced so they could reappear in the future. ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/27 "2014-03-05T17:08:18Z")
> [@simster](#): > > Skye was only mostly dead - Coulson was completely dead. She did have the same reaction Coulson did, at least as described. Near immediate cellular regeneration and healing. Coulson also got a lot of other things. I’ll admit I was confused as to whether the site was actually a S.H.I.E.L.D. installation so super secret even Coulson doesn’t have access (and yet protected by two people so unobservant that they don’t even know a giant plane landed six feet from their front door until they knock) or some new third party organization that S.H.I.E.L.D. works with. ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/28 "2014-03-05T17:09:31Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > An interesting question is why Garrett and Tripler were brought into the episode. They really didn’t do anything that the regular team couldn’t have done. So it appears they were just being introduced so they could reappear in the future. Yeah, I assumed the underling was a red shirt (and possibly Paxton was brought in to chew scenery with a death). ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/29 "2014-03-05T17:10:11Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > I was a bit disturbed by the lack of due diligence and forethought of supposedly the best agents of SHIELD just because a team member was dying. They killed the two guards way too flippantly as well. Yes, and how can Coulson explain away that not only did his team destroy a top secret SHIELD facility, but murdered two guards? That’s out & out Murder 1. How can that be justified or legal? Coulson is now a bad guy? (and to save that useless fucking traitor and criminal _Skye_?) ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/30 "2014-03-05T17:16:24Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Yes, and how can Coulson explain away that not only did his team destroy a top secret SHIELD facility, but murdered two guards? That’s out & out Murder 1. How can that be justified or legal? Coulson is now a bad guy? > > (and to save that useless fucking traitor and criminal _Skye_?) a) not a shield facility - b) it was destroyed by booby trap - not directly by Coulson’s team c) The two guards were killed in self defense - Coulson and team stated a number of times their intent. It could be argued that entrance to the facility was unauthorized, etc making the ‘self defense in the commision of a crime’ part - but I don’t think the bunkers boss is going to be talking to the local police about it. d) Skye is not a traitor or a criminal - haven’t you watched the recent episodes? e) based on your username - do you work for the 'Clairvoyant" ? Is it your job to sow dissent? ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/31 "2014-03-05T20:27:39Z")
Didn’t they say that they guessed that the G.H. in the drug name stood for Guest House? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/32 "2014-03-05T21:14:20Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Didn’t they say that they guessed that the G.H. in the drug name stood for Guest House? Right - thru a fit of logic they got from ‘G.H 325’ to ‘guest house’ as well. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/33 "2014-03-05T21:35:24Z")
> [@simster](#): > > a) not a shield facility Not clear, it’s shady but someone in SHIELD considers it one of theirs > [@](#): > > b) it was destroyed by booby trap - not directly by Coulson’s team Because it was under attack. At this point you’re splitting hairs. > [@](#): > > c) The two guards were killed in self defense - Coulson and team stated a number of times their intent. It could be argued that entrance to the facility was unauthorized, etc making the ‘self defense in the commision of a crime’ part - but I don’t think the bunkers boss is going to be talking to the local police about it. All that matters is what SHIELD thinks, and they’re not going to be happy. Or at least someone in SHIELD isn’t going to be happy. > [@](#): > > d) Skye is not a traitor or a criminal - haven’t you watched the recent episodes? Her status is less than clear, but she is still under suspicion I imagine. > [@](#): > > e) based on your username - do you work for the 'Clairvoyant" ? Is it your job to sow dissent? Clairvoyant? Never heard of him. Or her. Or it. Probably just a rumor. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/34 "2014-03-05T21:35:49Z")
> [@simster](#): > > a) not a shield facility - > b) it was destroyed by booby trap - not directly by Coulson’s team > c) The two guards were killed in self defense - Coulson and team stated a number of times their intent. It could be argued that entrance to the facility was unauthorized, etc making the ‘self defense in the commision of a crime’ part - but I don’t think the bunkers boss is going to be talking to the local police about it. > d) Skye is not a traitor or a criminal - haven’t you watched the recent episodes? > e) based on your username - do you work for the 'Clairvoyant" ? Is it your job to sow dissent? 1. I think it is, just double-tippy-top-secret. 2. If they hadnt entered it illegally, then… 3. No, Couls0n & team entered the facility illegally, the guards were just doing their jobs. Killing two innocent men to _maybe_ save another is not ethically right either. 4. Yes, I have. She was a criminal before 'recruitment" and afterwards, then was a traitor to the team, altho given a second chance. 5. Umm, err, no comment. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/35 "2014-03-05T21:49:31Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > And of course… what does T.A.H.I.T.I stand for? Took A Hit In The Intestines. Works for the blue guy AND Skye. Did anybody else think it was kind of odd that Sky took two rounds to the intestines & stomach, and that’s gonna kill her? On the scale of things people survive in this kind of shows, that doesn’t sound like much… ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2014, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/36 "2014-03-05T22:30:29Z")
It’s comic book medicine: Wounds are as as minimally life threatening as dramatically needed. If it serves the story in the moment a paper cut will kill you. If it serves the story a fall from the penthouse of a 300 story building will mess up your hair. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Doom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Dr\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Doom)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/37 "2014-03-06T01:08:17Z")
Overall, I thought this episode was a big miss. The premise and sequence of events were incongruent with the overarching government team theme of the series. All of the good guys behaved like independent vigilantes devoid of either conscience or duty, and acted as though they all felt completely free of impunity. The dialogue, acting and characterizations all came across hackneyed, trite and cliche. The action sequences were rudimentary. The CGI involving The Bus looked budget. The episode was saved by the alien reveal and Lorelei, and the fact I am an unabashed fan. I hope next week’s episode is much better. ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/38 "2014-03-06T01:11:37Z")
> [@obfusciatrist](#): > > If it serves the story in the moment a paper cut will kill you. If it serves the story a fall from the penthouse of a 300 story building will mess up your hair. Yeah, but on TV **nobody** can’t survive a fall down a flight of stairs. It’s how Superman will die, come the day. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/39 "2014-03-06T01:12:30Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > Did anybody else think it was kind of odd that Sky took two rounds to the intestines & stomach, and that’s gonna kill her? On the scale of things people survive in this kind of shows, that doesn’t sound like much… In TV-land, no. People take lethal hits in every episode and shrug them off with a band-aid and twenty seconds of working out, after having finished off their assailant and grunting out snappy dialogue as they heal. In reality, a gut shot is second only to one right between the eyes or right through the heart in lethality. If you live, it’s going to be a long, slow recovery process and you’ll be lucky to come out of it mostly the same. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/40 "2014-03-06T01:26:14Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > Did anybody else think it was kind of odd that Sky took two rounds to the intestines & stomach, and that’s gonna kill her? On the scale of things people survive in this kind of shows, that doesn’t sound like much… It’s much worse than that. Quinn shot her for the Clairvoyant. Shot her so that she would be almost but not quite dead knowing ahead of time that the SHIELD team would find her, stablize her, get her to a top-level SHIELD medical center where they can’t save her, and then move her to the super-secret facility that no one even knew existed. And he had to put two bullets into a place that would accomplish all that. That’s shooting! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899.md?page=3)