# S.h.i.e.l.d 3.4.14 t.a.h.i.t.i **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 5, 2014, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899 "2014-03-05T03:07:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/41 "2014-03-06T01:38:12Z")
The Lorelei reveal at the end was interesting, finally bringing in some mainline Marvel characters into the mix. We still don’t know much about Tahiti, I actually like the way they deliver that in dribs and drabs. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/42 "2014-03-06T01:51:36Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > It’s much worse than that. Quinn shot her for the Clairvoyant. Shot her so that she would be almost but not quite dead knowing ahead of time that the SHIELD team would find her, stablize her, get her to a top-level SHIELD medical center where they can’t save her, and then move her to the super-secret facility that no one even knew existed. And he had to put two bullets into a place that would accomplish all that. That’s shooting! More like, The Clairvoyant saw that that was how it would turn out, so he said “Ok, go ahead and shoot Skye. Twice.” I think this would have made a great half-hour episode. I think that about a lot of these episodes. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/43 "2014-03-06T02:28:56Z")
Now I’m wondering if Coulson’s plea to let him die wasn’t coming entirely from him but from the creature in the tube. Skye doesn’t get the psychic onslaught wishing for death because a.) she’s further from the tube and b.) when the facility went kaboom, Tube Man finally got his wish. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/44 "2014-03-06T05:41:33Z")
Somebody in SHIELD is going to regret picking Tahiti as the location used for Coulson’s false memories. If they had implanted the idea that Barbados is a magical place in his head, he’d have ignored a door labeled T.A.H.I.T.I. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Doom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Dr\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Doom)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/45 "2014-03-06T14:02:56Z")
> [@Johnny\_Q](#): > > Now I’m wondering if Coulson’s plea to let him die wasn’t coming entirely from him but from the creature in the tube. > > Skye doesn’t get the psychic onslaught wishing for death because a.) she’s further from the tube and b.) when the facility went kaboom, Tube Man finally got his wish. I really like this idea. I wnoder if there is any import to the fact that Tube Man appeared to be missimg both eyeballs. ---
**Author:** ![Misnomer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misnomer/32/14897_2.png) [@Misnomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Misnomer)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/46 "2014-03-06T14:04:46Z")
> [@Johnny\_Q](#): > > Now I’m wondering if Coulson’s plea to let him die wasn’t coming entirely from him but from the creature in the tube. > > Skye doesn’t get the psychic onslaught wishing for death because a.) she’s further from the tube and b.) when the facility went kaboom, Tube Man finally got his wish. Ooooooh… 🙂 (IOW, what **Dr\_Doom** said!) ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/47 "2014-03-06T14:46:23Z")
BTW, upon rewatching - Tube Man isn’t blue. It’s just the lighting. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/48 "2014-03-06T15:02:35Z")
> [@Dr\_Doom](#): > > I really like this idea. > > I wnoder if there is any import to the fact that Tube Man appeared to be missimg both eyeballs. The eyes are always the first to go with big blue naked aliens with their guts hanging out who are being harvested for their regenerative fluids. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/49 "2014-03-06T15:04:28Z")
> [@Johnny\_Q](#): > > Now I’m wondering if Coulson’s plea to let him die wasn’t coming entirely from him but from the creature in the tube. > > Skye doesn’t get the psychic onslaught wishing for death because a.) she’s further from the tube and b.) when the facility went kaboom, Tube Man finally got his wish. Does that mean that Tube Man might be the Clairvoyant? Could he be manipulating things from the tube in order to collapse the mountain on himself and end his years of suffering? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/50 "2014-03-06T15:22:16Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > Does that mean that Tube Man might be the Clairvoyant? Could he be manipulating things from the tube in order to collapse the mountain on himself and end his years of suffering? or be able to escape ? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/51 "2014-03-06T15:23:02Z")
Probably not, because The Clairvoyant is also dicking around with Centipede. No need to do that if all you want is to die. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/52 "2014-03-06T15:45:48Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > Does that mean that Tube Man might be the Clairvoyant? Could he be manipulating things from the tube in order to collapse the mountain on himself and end his years of suffering? Haven’t we seen people talking to the Clairvoyant on the phone? I don’t think he could sneak a cell phone into that tube, and besides, they just established that they don’t get a good signal down there. I don’t think there’s been any indication that the Clairvoyant is also telepathic. In fact, if he were, there would be no need for the EyePhone he’s using to control his minions. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/53 "2014-03-06T15:58:59Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > If you want a wild ass guess from outside of Marvel continuity, it’s Frankenstein’s monster. May I remind you of The Monster of Frankenstein series from the late 1970s. And Tomb of Dracula also. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/54 "2014-03-06T15:59:12Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Haven’t we seen people talking to the Clairvoyant on the phone? I don’t think he could sneak a cell phone into that tube, and besides, they just established that they don’t get a good signal down there. > > I don’t think there’s been any indication that the Clairvoyant is also telepathic. In fact, if he were, there would be no need for the EyePhone he’s using to control his minions. He’s both spoken to and killed people through a cell phone. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/55 "2014-03-06T16:28:01Z")
I don’t think there’s a need to read more into the body in the tube than what was presented. It’s alien (or mutant) biology being used for purposes that are as yet unclear, but include healing agents. (Pun intended) A body recovered from the Battle of New York? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/56 "2014-03-06T16:34:23Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > A body recovered from the Battle of New York? The Battle of New York was after Coulson got sort-of-deaded, so it’s likely they already had TubeMan before then. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/57 "2014-03-06T17:28:14Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Somebody in SHIELD is going to regret picking Tahiti as the location used for Coulson’s false memories. If they had implanted the idea that Barbados is a magical place in his head, he’d have ignored a door labeled T.A.H.I.T.I. As if in that world the door wouldn’t have been labeled B.A.R.B.A.D.O.S. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/58 "2014-03-06T17:33:17Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > The Battle of New York was after Coulson got sort-of-deaded, so it’s likely they already had TubeMan before then. Excellent point - maybe he was only “mostly dead” at that point? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/59 "2014-03-06T17:34:45Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > As if in that world the door wouldn’t have been labeled B.A.R.B.A.D.O.S. 😃 And out here in the real world, it would have been D.I.S.N.E.Y.L.A.N.D. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2014, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899/60 "2014-03-06T20:11:46Z")
Can someone fill me in on the Asgardian who showed up at the end? Who is she, and does she have anything to do with anything else we saw in the episode or is this a new plot thread being dropped on us? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/s-h-i-e-l-d-3-4-14-t-a-h-i-t-i/682899.md?page=4)