# Sad news for Trekkies

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sad-news-for-trekkies/124184>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 16, 2002, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sad-news-for-trekkies/124184 "2002-08-16T14:14:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bad\_Hat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f0a364/32.png) [@Bad\_Hat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bad_Hat)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2002, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sad-news-for-trekkies/124184/21 "2002-08-16T21:28:15Z")

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> Hope he got paid anyway.

I’m sure he did, but the really sad thing (from an actors perspective anyway) is that now he won’t get any royalites when they re-air it or sell DVDs.

This actualy has happned to a couple of actor friends of mine over the years. They filmed High Profile movies (most recent;y, somebody was in Road to Perdition), got paid, but the got cut entirely.

Supposedly if you are in ONE FRAME, you still get your cut of royalties, but if not,

zip

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2002, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sad-news-for-trekkies/124184/22 "2002-08-16T21:51:34Z")

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Wil Wheaton has a website?  
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

😃

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2002, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sad-news-for-trekkies/124184/23 "2002-08-16T22:07:32Z")

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I don’t know why, but theis made me laugh.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation, which is a group against corporate lawyers suing fan sites and the like, is going to stage some sort of party to raise funds. Wil Wheaton, a supporter, will be there, and fight a man in a Barney suit-a tribute to [a famous Internet battle](http://www.grudge-match.com/History/barney-wesley.shtml).

Although I don’t know if Wil will be mangled and/or killed.

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**Author:** ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2002, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sad-news-for-trekkies/124184/24 "2002-08-16T23:19:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by mobo85 \*  
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> Wil Wheaton, a supporter, will be there, and fight a man in a Barney suit-a tribute to [a famous Internet battle](http://www.grudge-match.com/History/barney-wesley.shtml).
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Uhhh… that’s Dino.

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2002, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sad-news-for-trekkies/124184/25 "2002-08-16T23:33:25Z")

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Psst!! click on the picture!!

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2002, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sad-news-for-trekkies/124184/26 "2002-08-16T23:35:45Z")

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Used to be Barney till the lawyers came along. That’s why Wil Wheaton is fighting a man in a Barney suit-to protest suings like that.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2002, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sad-news-for-trekkies/124184/27 "2002-08-17T00:53:21Z")

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Wil Wheaton is a decent actor-ever see him in _Stand by Me_ when he was a kid?

Plus he’s funny as hell-read his website. He’d make a pretty good Doper, I think.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2002, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sad-news-for-trekkies/124184/28 "2002-08-17T00:56:08Z")

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Oh, and read this:

[http://www.wilwheaton.net/warning.php](http://www.wilwheaton.net/warning.php)

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> See, here is the thing: I don’t take myself seriously.
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> At all. Not even a little bit. People (and by people, I mean Star Trek fans who were the inspiration for The Comic Book Guy on The Simpsons…you know who you are) have been dumping on me for over 10 years, and if I took myself too seriously, I’d probably be sitting in an Urn next to River Phoenix.

And here:

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> My primary comedy influences are George Carlin, Jon Stewart, David Letterman, and Carrottop. Well, all except for Carrot Top, who’d I’d like to sit next to Carson Daly and Kane (from VH1) on a busride to the bottom of the sea. The long-winded point being, I am sarcastic. I make liberal use of irony.

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2002, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sad-news-for-trekkies/124184/29 "2002-08-17T01:05:55Z")

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Somebody should hatch a plan to get him hooked here…

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2002, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sad-news-for-trekkies/124184/30 "2002-08-17T01:38:31Z")

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> Wesley Crusher: the Jar Jar Binks of Star Fleet.

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> That’s a bit harsh, don’t you think? I mean be fair - Jar Jar binks isn’t that bad.

My point was that both characters were specifically created to pander to what the producers thought their target audience wanted; and in both cases, they proved to be the most unpopular characters. Of course, the producers eventually figured out what their typical viewer really wanted; hence the eventual appearance of Jeri Ryan in a catsuit, Carrie Fisher in a harem dress, and Natalie Portman in tights. By the time _Enterprise_ was aired, they had even figured it out to the point where they hired Jolene Blalock and incorporated large breasts in the series right from the beginning.

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**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2002, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sad-news-for-trekkies/124184/31 "2002-08-17T05:48:03Z")

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Hey I have never been much of a Wesley Crusher fan but that is Roddenberry’s fault not Wheaton’s. Had he been written right it could have been a good character but that is water under the bridge.

The guy was obviously enthused about getting a part in the movie and I think it kinda sucks to have that pulled out from under him like that. He deserves better than that. I hope his material shows up on the DVD I for one will want to watch it.  
I’m surprised at the people being nasty about this news though.

Wil if you are lurking out there don’t worry most real fans know the difference between a real person acting and a character they are portraying. Hang in there You’ll get your chance again with Trek someday I’m sure.

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**Author:** ![Heloise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e36b37/32.png) [@Heloise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heloise)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2002, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sad-news-for-trekkies/124184/32 "2002-08-17T06:26:45Z")

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Okay, here’s a slight hijack.

I used to work with his brother in Glendale, California, in the IT department of a worker’s comp company. He didn’t talk much about his brother, but is a very cool guy himself. Extremely intelligent.

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**Author:** ![Bullwinkle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@Bullwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullwinkle)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2002, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sad-news-for-trekkies/124184/33 "2002-08-17T06:51:16Z")

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If Wesley isn’t in the movie then the Enterprise is doomed for sure! He must have saved the ship a dozen times during his brief tenure on board.  
Anyway, didn’t he evaporate into the nth dimension with his friend The Traveler?

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**Author:** ![kitarak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kitarak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitarak)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2002, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sad-news-for-trekkies/124184/34 "2002-08-17T12:02:22Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Little Nemo \*  
> \*\*My point was that both characters were specifically created to pander to what the producers thought their target audience wanted; and in both cases, they proved to be the most unpopular characters. \*\*

Yeah, I knew what you meant. I was just deliberately being silly. Hence the smiley.

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**Author:** ![Fern\_Forest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/71c47a/32.png) [@Fern\_Forest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fern_Forest)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2002, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sad-news-for-trekkies/124184/35 "2002-08-17T12:09:35Z")

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Eh, as long as the movie itself as good and the adhere to the timeline I don’t really care about him. Although I never watched the show until I caught it in reruns so it was never an issue with me.

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> \*Originally posted by dorkusmalorkusmafia \*  
> **I found him to be obsessively whiney and superior.**

True. But so was every other person on that show except for Data and Jordi. And maybe Crusher, although I find her very alluring so I’m quite partial I’m sure.

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2002, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sad-news-for-trekkies/124184/36 "2002-08-17T12:35:26Z")

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I won’t miss the Wesley scenes on the DVD. Wesley Crusher was a poorly conceived and poorly written character.

Wil Wheaton, of course, is a good guy. I always recognized that the crappiness of Wesley was due primarily to bad writing, not bad acting (Hint #1: Never have the kids saving the adult’s asses. Hint #2: Don’t do it _several_ times).

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2002, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sad-news-for-trekkies/124184/37 "2002-08-17T12:36:28Z")

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> I won’t miss the Wesley scenes on the DVD.

Of course, I meant to say “I won’t miss the scenes if they’re not on the DVD”. I really won’t miss them in the movie.

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2002, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sad-news-for-trekkies/124184/38 "2002-08-17T13:00:45Z")

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He always reminded me of Robin, the sorta kid who got "A"s without trying.

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**Author:** ![Estilicon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Estilicon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Estilicon)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2002, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sad-news-for-trekkies/124184/39 "2002-08-17T13:10:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Mr. Blue Sky \*  
> \*\*Wil Wheaton has a website?  
> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
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> 😃 \*\*

instead of no you should have said:  
KAHNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!  
Now the thought police is after you 🙂

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2002, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sad-news-for-trekkies/124184/40 "2002-08-18T00:04:24Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SPOOFE \*  
> \*\*(Hint #1: Never have the kids saving the adult’s asses. Hint #2: Don’t do it _several_ times). \*\*

Good thing Star Wars never did that, eh? 😉

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