# Saddam's public execution? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 17, 2003, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saddams-public-execution/219643 "2003-12-17T23:07:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saddams-public-execution/219643/21 "2003-12-18T05:20:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SeekingTruth \* > **I’d gladly pay $199.99 to see this on PPV. But, this would only be for my personal enjoyment** You´re a sick puppy, don´t you know? ---
**Author:** ![Sofa\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/58956e/32.png) [@Sofa\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sofa_King)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saddams-public-execution/219643/22 "2003-12-18T05:44:27Z")
There is no human endeavor, no matter how originally mundane or extreme, which given proper importance in human events will not be charged by some to be staged, exaggerated, or utterly fallacious. The simple explanation for this is that people tend to agree with the opinions which originate the closest to them. This becomes a problem when some fucking idiots listen to the voices in their own damned fool heads. Saddam is alive, and always shall be–maybe playing the tabla and backing up with Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan, Elvis, Jimi Hendrix, and that guy from the Sabri Brothers–in the hearts of even well-meaning people. Because death is a form of freedom. It’s much more difficult to _fake_ freedom. Nobody is chanting, _Charles Manson lives!_ I say take that away from the bastard, and waggle him in front of the unbelievers every so often just to make sure they know he is more material than the weapons of mass destruction he was preparing for use outside of Baghdad. He’s more valuable to humans alive and incarcerated than he is dead and… free. I believe the death penalty is useful in certain cases, when a clear and unambiguous message can be sent to large groups of people. But ambiguity creeps in like water in a foundering vessel, and if the message becomes merely one of walking the plank while the ship settles, then it’s best to keep the bastard in the hold while the crew tries as hard as they can to bail. ---
**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saddams-public-execution/219643/23 "2003-12-18T06:42:10Z")
In my view, showing pictures of the shot up bodies of Saddam’s sons really pushed the limits of what reporting should be. It reminded me of what I have been told was the reason for bringing Bonny and Clyde’s bodies back to Dallas and putting them on display: It was to reasure people that they were really dead. I believe both instances were shameful, low, and vulgar. To make the execution of any person, even Saddam Huessein, a public spectacle is cruel and barbaric. To charge admission to such an event is reprehensible. To be willing to pay that admission, and to be eager to see the event, goes way beyond reprehensible. Why not just throw the victim into a bear pit and have done with it? Better yet, let’s revive crucifixion as a means of execution. Maybe we could sell lottery tickets, with the winner being allowed to hammer home the nails. The idea of watching any person die, and to take pleasure from the spectacle is sick beyond comprehension. IMHO, YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![Largo62](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/45deac/32.png) [@Largo62](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Largo62)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saddams-public-execution/219643/24 "2003-12-18T07:34:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic \* > **I never said he wan’t a scumbag. I wouldn’t even argue with those who want to kill him (after a “fair trial,” of course) but wanting to watch it on TV and masturbate to it is fucking contemptable.** **SeekingTruth** said he would watch the execution for entertainment. I suspect this was exaggeration for the purpose of making a point. I said I would pay to watch the execution if the proceeds went to help Saddam’s victims, and to “prove the Devil is mortal.” I wouldn’t be entertained by it, but it would be a newsworthy event, and a relief to know for sure the bastard has departed once and for all. Where do you get the masturbation fantasy you seem so enamored of? You used it twice in this thread, and you are the only one. Speak for yourself, sport. You ascribe motives to people you don’t know. I don’t think you are qualified. I have found a lot of your posts interesting and well-reasoned, but you seem to be a little overboard just now. Take a couple of deep breaths and actually _read[_ the posts again. Then _you_ jerk off, you jerk-off! ---
**Author:** ![Civil\_Defense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Civil\_Defense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Civil_Defense)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saddams-public-execution/219643/25 "2003-12-18T08:35:32Z")
I’m most definitely not a “sick fuck” but I, too, would pay to watch it. If for no other reason than to reassure myself that justice DOES prevail, in the end. Even moreso if the proceeds of such an event went to the victims, soldiers, and their families. And you know what? I bet a whole lot of people would pay to watch it, too. Sounds like it would make a great CNN poll. In other news, no one mentioned beating off to such a show. Grow up, fuckface. And finally, this contemptible shrew of a man deserves no MORE than to be publicly humiliated for the atrocious acts which he committed as president of Iraq over the last several years. YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saddams-public-execution/219643/26 "2003-12-18T14:59:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by DesertGeezer \* > **SeekingTruth said he would watch the execution for entertainment. I suspect this was exaggeration for the purpose of making a point.** I suspect it _wasn’t_. At least **ST** hasn’t bothered to clarify it as such. > [@](#): > > **I said I would pay to watch the execution if the proceeds went to help Saddam’s victims, and to “prove the Devil is mortal.” I wouldn’t be entertained by it, but it would be a newsworthy event, and a relief to know for sure the bastard has departed once and for all.** So why not just donate money directly to Saddam’s victim’s? Why do you feel the urge to watch a man get murdered for your amusement? > [@](#): > > \*\*Where do you get the masturbation fantasy you seem so enamored of? You used it twice in this thread, and you are the only one. Speak for yourself, sport. You ascribe motives to people you don’t know. I don’t think you are qualified. I have found a lot of your posts interesting and well-reasoned, but you seem to be a little overboard just now. Take a couple of deep breaths and actually _read[_ the posts again. Then _you_ jerk off, you jerk-off! \*\* I’m speaking figuratively. I’m showing contempt fot those who would find the murder of another human being entertaining. I’m suggesting that the gratification they would derive from such a think is just as sleazy and shameful as if they were jerking off to snuff porn. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saddams-public-execution/219643/27 "2003-12-18T15:03:20Z")
Why don’t you guys just admit that you really just want an excuse to watch somebody get killed? You don’t really care _who_ it is. You’d get off on it just as much if was Mother fucking Teresa. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saddams-public-execution/219643/28 "2003-12-18T15:29:51Z")
Diogenes, yeah, sure. Anyway, I wouldn’t pay almost $200 to see Saddam buy the farm. Twenty bucks, tho? You bet! ---
**Author:** ![SeekingTruth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@SeekingTruth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeekingTruth)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saddams-public-execution/219643/29 "2003-12-18T16:42:35Z")
You do realize there is a difference in murder and execution, right? Saddam = murder. Iraqi court issuing death sentence = execution. Fuckface? Jerking off? I’ll be sure to knock your credibility down a little on my little list. This is the fucking Pit! Where is the rule stated that opinion can’t enter? BTW, in my last post I may have taken a couple of unwarranted swipes, for that I apologize. Sometimes the heat of the moment carries me away. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saddams-public-execution/219643/30 "2003-12-18T17:23:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SeekingTruth \* > **You do realize there is a difference in murder and execution, right? Saddam = murder. Iraqi court issuing death sentence = execution** As a matter of fact, I don’t see a difference. taking a life is taking a life. If saddam is in prison, he isn’t a threat and there is no justification for murdering him. > [@](#): > > **Fuckface? Jerking off? I’ll be sure to knock your credibility down a little on my little list.** You won’t be the first. But just for future reference, don’t accuse me of “hating America” and I won’t call you a fuckface. > [@](#): > > **This is the fucking Pit! Where is the rule stated that opinion can’t enter?** When did I say you couldn’t express an opinion? Cite? > [@](#): > > \*\*BTW, in my last post I may have taken a couple of unwarranted swipes, for that I apologize. Sometimes the heat of the moment carries me away. \*\* Apology accepted. “Fuckface” withdrawn.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saddams-public-execution/219643/31 "2003-12-18T18:33:43Z")
What cracks me up about this whole argument is that while people are accused of being “sick fucks” for admitting wanting to see Spanky get executed, right now multitudes of other people are plunking down enough greenbacks to support multi-billion dollar industrys that provide the same form of “entertainment”, mainly watching people get killed (in sometimes very gruesome methods) on TV, in movies and on game systems. Would I be a “sick fuck” if I wanted to watch Uma Thurman whack a roomful of dudes with gushers of blood spurting all over? Or is that okay, because its “not real”? Would I only be a “sick fuck” if I watched a real killing of someone who despretly deserved it? 😕 * * * Delta-32 Ski-Doo! ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saddams-public-execution/219643/32 "2003-12-18T18:41:32Z")
You would be a sick fuck if you wanted to watch Uma Thurman slice up a roomful of Yakuza for _real_. ---
**Author:** ![SeekingTruth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@SeekingTruth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeekingTruth)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saddams-public-execution/219643/33 "2003-12-18T20:18:43Z")
well, considering what the Yakuza represent, I’d be willing to pay twice that if she did it in a bikini 😉 BTW, should it be on PPV satellite, wouldn’t cost anything anyway. But I’m sure I could find many to pay $20 a head to see it 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Civil\_Defense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Civil\_Defense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Civil_Defense)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saddams-public-execution/219643/34 "2003-12-18T20:34:42Z")
> [@](#): > > Why don’t you guys just admit that you really just want an excuse to watch somebody get killed? You don’t really care who it is. You’d get off on it just as much if was Mother fucking Teresa. If that were true, there’d be no need for this thread at all – it could easily be replaced with a Faces of Death video. I DO, in fact, care who it is – and it’s Hussein we’re discussing, a reputable mass murderer and public figurehead of injustice. If you can equate that to Mother Teresa… well, then, you’d make a good lawyer. Or a really bad one. Can’t tell which. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saddams-public-execution/219643/35 "2003-12-18T21:54:53Z")
I actually find the idea of paying to see someone die really, truely disgusting. It’s a disturbed set of ethics that would think that was a good idea. ---
**Author:** ![SeekingTruth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@SeekingTruth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeekingTruth)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saddams-public-execution/219643/36 "2003-12-18T22:10:16Z")
Oh, man. Once again I have to reiterate a point. I said I’d gladly pay for a viewing. Sick? OK, fine, I’m sick. The point of the OP was that people of Iraq see him die (as in, show it on Iraqi TV!) so they can be assured he will NEVER come back for retribution. I can’t beleive how quickly OP’s can be turned around into something they weren’t meant to be. (Guilty, myself) ---
**Author:** ![Civil\_Defense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Civil\_Defense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Civil_Defense)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saddams-public-execution/219643/37 "2003-12-18T22:33:36Z")
> [@](#): > > I actually find the idea of paying to see someone die really, truely disgusting. > > It’s a disturbed set of ethics that would think that was a good idea. I’m sure the same was once said about pornography, as well. What is it about someone’s death that you find “really, truely disgusting”? I stood bedside as my great grandmother passed away, and held her hand. Is that really, truly disgusting? ---
**Author:** ![cheddarsnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@cheddarsnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cheddarsnax)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saddams-public-execution/219643/38 "2003-12-18T22:39:13Z")
Yes, because there’s no difference whatsoever between seeing someone you don’t know be killed and being with a close relative during the last moments of their life. ---
**Author:** ![Civil\_Defense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Civil\_Defense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Civil_Defense)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saddams-public-execution/219643/39 "2003-12-18T22:44:22Z")
> [@](#): > > Yes, because there’s no difference whatsoever between seeing someone you don’t know be killed and being with a close relative during the last moments of their life. That’s what I was trying to ascertain; whether the poster was implying that all death is disgusting or that particular situation. Given either, it’s safe to say that I’m well aware of the types of activities that Hussein sponsored and took part in during his presidency. Facts are facts, and no amount of “you don’t know him” can sway me from understand what he DID. Knowing him is irrelevent. I’d say it’s more akin to being a relative of a murder victim and opting to watch the execution. You don’t KNOW the murderer, but generally you damn sure want to be there to see him expire. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2003, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saddams-public-execution/219643/40 "2003-12-18T22:49:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Civil Defense \* > \*\*I’m sure the same was once said about pornography, as well. What is it about someone’s death that you find “really, truely disgusting”? I stood bedside as my great grandmother passed away, and held her hand. Is that really, truly disgusting? \*\* Did you pay for the “privilage”? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saddams-public-execution/219643.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/saddams-public-execution/219643.md?page=3)