# Sadest Man-movie moments (Possible Spoilers)

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 10, 2004, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sadest-man-movie-moments-possible-spoilers/239370 "2004-04-10T21:44:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![JoeSki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b487fb/32.png) [@JoeSki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoeSki)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2004, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sadest-man-movie-moments-possible-spoilers/239370/41 "2004-04-11T20:48:16Z")

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> [@Spudo](#):
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> The scene in _Snatch_ where Brick Top burns Mickey’s mum’s caravan. With two guys holding Mickey back, then he stops fighting and stands there, and then starts again.

Forgot all about that. That scene made me wish he died a slow horrible death. He got off easy with a simple shotgun blast to the face.

And the ending of Rambo: First Blood was quite tragic.

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**Author:** ![Cardinal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardinal/32/4000_2.png) [@Cardinal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardinal)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2004, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sadest-man-movie-moments-possible-spoilers/239370/42 "2004-04-11T23:14:15Z")

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For me, the teary parts of FOTR: ROTK are:

1. just before the Rohirrim charge down Pelannor Fields. It’s such a deliberate step into a fight. They’re not being attacked at home; they’ve ridden for days to fight for the greater good of the continent, and are making a considered decision to ride into an army that greatly outnumbers them.

2. The very brief shot of Aaragorn’s army fighting in a circle outside the Black Gate. The edges of its circle are beginning to bleed into the attacking troops as the fighting starts. It’s such a strong decision to take on this outnumbered fight in the small hope that it can be the final throw of the whole war.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2004, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sadest-man-movie-moments-possible-spoilers/239370/43 "2004-04-11T23:25:28Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> -Matrix Revolutions - The ending

I, too, cried my eyes out at the end of _Matrix Revolutions_ – out of bitter disappointment. 😛

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**Author:** ![emekthian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecae2f/32.png) [@emekthian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emekthian)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2004, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sadest-man-movie-moments-possible-spoilers/239370/44 "2004-04-11T23:28:50Z")

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> [@](#):
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> My son and husband did not get all teary-eyed when The Iron Giant flew up in the air with the bomb. They did not swallow heavily when he said, “I’m Superman!” as he soared away.
> 
> It was a cartoon and men do not get all choked up over a cartoon. Nope. Not at all. Don’t even ask them about it.

You’ve obviously never seen the ending of the Futurama episode “Luck of the Fryrish”.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2004, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sadest-man-movie-moments-possible-spoilers/239370/45 "2004-04-11T23:36:28Z")

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“Saddest” is spelled with two d’s.

“Sadest” looks more like it’d be pronounced “Sadist.” And heaven knows, Man-movies have a **lot** of sadist moments.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2004, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sadest-man-movie-moments-possible-spoilers/239370/46 "2004-04-11T23:37:38Z")

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> [@Darkhold](#):
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> “Conan” in the extended version there’s a moment when Conan seems to doubt himself and feel the pain of his loss. I can’t imagine why this was cut.

Conan is filled with sad moments - Valeria’s death. The destruction of Conan’s village and his mom getting her head cut off by Thulsa Doom. And Conan deals with his feelings in the only appropriate way - REVENGE!

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**Author:** ![HelenGawn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@HelenGawn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelenGawn)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2004, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sadest-man-movie-moments-possible-spoilers/239370/47 "2004-04-11T23:39:25Z")

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Rawhide’s death in _Buckaroo Banzai_.

“What are y’all standin’ around for? You’re on the clock - saddle up!”

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2004, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sadest-man-movie-moments-possible-spoilers/239370/48 "2004-04-11T23:43:52Z")

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Animated movies, no matter the subject, are not Man movies. And sorry, neither are science fiction/fantasy. Apollo 11 is a man’s movie, but Star Wars/Trek will never be. Man movies are not make-believe.

Man movies are about war, sports, dogs, horses, and buddies. No others need apply.

Galipoli is a good one. Running, war, and buddies. Not a lot of horses or dogs, though.

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**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2004, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sadest-man-movie-moments-possible-spoilers/239370/49 "2004-04-12T00:06:35Z")

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Lamar Mundane,

So…Blade Runner not a man movie?  
Total Recall not a man movie?  
Xmen and X2 not man movies? (boy movies maybe?)  
Vampire Hunter D:Bloodlust (double strike make believe and animated) not a man movie?  
Crying Freeman the most manly man movie I’ve ever seen (animated) not a man moive?  
Conan? not a man movie.  
The Beast Master (fantasy) not a man movie?  
Spawn the animated series has a priest fragging people with grenades Not a man movie?  
Predator (sci fi) not a man movie?  
Aliens? (sci fi) not a man movie?  
Terminator 1,2,3 (sci fi) not a man movie?

If you say so.

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2004, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sadest-man-movie-moments-possible-spoilers/239370/50 "2004-04-12T00:40:43Z")

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> [@Darkhold](#):
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> Lamar Mundane,
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> So…Blade Runner not a man movie?  
> Total Recall not a man movie?  
> Xmen and X2 not man movies? (boy movies maybe?)  
> Vampire Hunter D:Bloodlust (double strike make believe and animated) not a man movie?  
> Crying Freeman the most manly man movie I’ve ever seen (animated) not a man moive?  
> Conan? not a man movie.  
> The Beast Master (fantasy) not a man movie?  
> Spawn the animated series has a priest fragging people with grenades Not a man movie?  
> Predator (sci fi) not a man movie?  
> Aliens? (sci fi) not a man movie?  
> Terminator 1,2,3 (sci fi) not a man movie?
> 
> If you say so.

Yeah, pretty much. Its the make-believe part that disqualifies them. Hey, I loved the Alien series, but the hero (heroine) was a girl! Not a man movie!

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**Author:** ![Tremmie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5fc32e/32.png) [@Tremmie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tremmie)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2004, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sadest-man-movie-moments-possible-spoilers/239370/51 "2004-04-12T00:55:44Z")

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> [@emekthian](#):
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> You’ve obviously never seen the ending of the Futurama episode “Luck of the Fryrish”.

Or the end of _Jurassic Bark_ _sob_

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**Author:** ![Marine\_One](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marine_one/32/3461_2.png) [@Marine\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marine_One)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2004, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sadest-man-movie-moments-possible-spoilers/239370/52 "2004-04-12T00:56:42Z")

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**Spartacus**

When he’s being crucified and Varinia walks toward him:

“This is your son. He’s free!”

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**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2004, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sadest-man-movie-moments-possible-spoilers/239370/53 "2004-04-12T01:13:09Z")

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> [@Lamar Mundane](#):
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> Animated movies, no matter the subject, are not Man movies. And sorry, neither are science fiction/fantasy. Apollo 11 is a man’s movie, but Star Wars/Trek will never be. Man movies are not make-believe.

Sorry, but I gotta call B.S. on the sci-fi/fantasy exception. Sci-fi is the nerdiest of all art forms, and nearly all nerds are guys. (And how can you say _Alien_ is not a guy movie because the lead is a female? Are you gay or something??)

> [@](#):
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> Man movies are about war, sports, dogs, horses, and buddies. No others need apply.

What about comedies? I’d nominate _Mrs. Doubtfire_, when Robin Williams is told he can no longer see his kids without a social worker present: _“Whenever I hug them, she wonders WHY. Do you have any idea what that feels like??”_

Or _Empire of the Sun_ (war movie, so it counts) when the Japanese invade Shanghai and Jamie loses his parents in the crowd, and again when WWII ends and he no longer recognizes them.

Or _Terms of Endearment_, when…oh wait, that is so not a guy movie. Never mind. 😉

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2004, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sadest-man-movie-moments-possible-spoilers/239370/54 "2004-04-12T01:28:35Z")

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> [@Lamar Mundane](#):
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> Animated movies, no matter the subject, are not Man movies.

_sigh_ … another naive soul who has never seen _Akira_.

> [@](#):
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> Apollo 11 is a man’s movie,

Which movie, pray tell, is _Apollo 11_ ?

(Or did you mean _Apollo 13_, mister know-it-all?)

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**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2004, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sadest-man-movie-moments-possible-spoilers/239370/55 "2004-04-12T01:30:36Z")

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**tracer**  
Darned you typed faster than I did.  
Apollo 11 was a TV movie made in 1996 - are they referring to that ciematic epic??

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**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2004, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sadest-man-movie-moments-possible-spoilers/239370/56 "2004-04-12T01:31:20Z")

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Really you could not be more wrong. All movies are Make believe.

What about Crying Freeman? He’s an assassin that kills 1,000 people. Has tons of hot sex. The people who are trying to kill him? A hot girl and a police chief. They have tons of sex. Mobsters, guns, death and sex.

But it’s animated. _rolls eyes_

Total Recall? Death, sex, and Sharon Stone.

The Crow? Death, Death, rape, Death and death. With swords thrown in for fun.

Terminator…oh wait the first two had a female lead. I guess they dont’ count at ALL.

Predator? Army men, Death, camp assault, death death death, Big monster, death death death. Big explosion. It’s far more of an action movie then Sci/Fi. It’s not like they got into political talks with the Predator and asked him his feelings.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2004, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sadest-man-movie-moments-possible-spoilers/239370/57 "2004-04-12T01:33:33Z")

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If something is getting killed and/or blown up, it’s a man-movie.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2004, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sadest-man-movie-moments-possible-spoilers/239370/58 "2004-04-12T01:35:59Z")

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> [@Lamar Mundane](#):
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> Man movies are about war, sports, dogs, horses, and buddies

Excellent. The very list doesn’t say jacksquat about the _setting_ (past, future, imaginary world, urban, rural) in which those wars/sports/animal/buddies happen, nor the _stylistic idiom_ (SF, fantasy, comedy, thriller, action) with which the screenwriter tells their story.

And anyway, if you do make a (“real world”) war movie but do so in a totally mythical manner or bringing in a heavy load of surrealism, does it become emasculated?

Oh, OP response: The end of _In Her Majesty’s Secret Service_.

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2004, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sadest-man-movie-moments-possible-spoilers/239370/59 "2004-04-12T01:46:14Z")

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Damn, **Lamar** , it must suck to live in your little world 😛

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2004, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sadest-man-movie-moments-possible-spoilers/239370/60 "2004-04-12T02:05:12Z")

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Boy, you guys are easily offended. No wonder you don’t get what man movies are all about. 🙂

> [@KGS](#):
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> Are you gay or something??)

Are you 12 or something?

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