# Safari 5.1.7 questions

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [June 24, 2012, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/safari-5-1-7-questions/626141 "2012-06-24T13:35:49Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/safari-5-1-7-questions/626141/1 "2012-06-24T13:35:49Z")

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After seven years I finally broke down and bought a new computer. Now I have to learn the quirks of new software.

When I open Safari 5.1.7, it opens to the last page I visited. I want it to open to my homepage. In Preferences, I have New windows open with: Homepage. The URL for the homepage is set in Homepage:. New windows do open to the homepage, but I get the last page visited when I first start Safari. How do I get Safari to open to my homepage?

When I click on the Bookmarks tab, I don’t get the Bookmarks Menu. I haven’t saved pages to the Menu proper, but I’ve saved some folders to it and have bookmarked a page in one of them. On the old computer I’d save to Menu and the link would be there when I click the Bookmarks tab. On the new one I have to click Bookmarks|Show all bookmarks. How do I get a list of links when I click on the Bookmarks tab?

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**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/safari-5-1-7-questions/626141/2 "2012-06-24T14:47:03Z")

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I tried entering **chflags nohidden ~/Library/** in Terminal, but there was no change.

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**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/safari-5-1-7-questions/626141/3 "2012-06-24T14:57:20Z")

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I think the first behavior you are seeing is Lion loading the last page you visited.  
You can change that behavior here: [Disable Resume for Safari or Other Specific Applications in Mac OS X Lion](http://osxdaily.com/2011/07/31/disable-resume-specific-applications-mac-os-x-lion/)

Move your bookmark to the bookmarks menu.

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**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/safari-5-1-7-questions/626141/4 "2012-06-24T15:16:45Z")

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Didn’t work. I didn’t delete the contents of the apps folder, because I can’t find ‘apps’ when I search in Finder, and the page didn’t give any instructions on what to do. In any case, I closed Safari and then re-started it and both Safari windows I’d been in opened.

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**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/safari-5-1-7-questions/626141/5 "2012-06-24T15:18:53Z")

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Moving my folders into Bookmarks worked. But why the extra step? Why not just be able to save a bookmark to the bookmark menu, rather than having to save it and then move it? 😕

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/safari-5-1-7-questions/626141/6 "2012-06-24T15:22:38Z")

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When you do an “Add Bookmark…” you get the choice of where to save it. Just save it to the menu.  
One step.

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**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/safari-5-1-7-questions/626141/7 "2012-06-24T15:25:20Z")

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> [@beowulff](#):
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> When you do an “Add Bookmark…” you get the choice of where to save it. Just save it to the menu.  
> One step.

OK, it’s working now.

On the other matter:

[quote]  
If manually deleting specific apps saved Resume states is too tedious for you, you can always choose to just disable the Resume and App Restore feature completely in Mac OS X 10.7.  
[ul][li]Launch System Preferences and click on the “General” icon[/li][li]At the bottom of the “Number of recent items” list, uncheck the checkbox next to “Restore windows when quitting and re-opening apps”[/ul][/li][/quote]

I tried this, and Safari still opens previous windows on relaunch.

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**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/safari-5-1-7-questions/626141/8 "2012-06-24T15:33:54Z")

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OK, I think I got it…

I went to ~/Library/Saved Application State/ and moved the Safari folder to the trash. This seemed to have worked.

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OK, another question: Exposé does not seem to work the way it does on my PowerBook G4. On the old machine, I can hit a corner to display all windows. On the new machine, it only shows _some_ of the windows when I hit the corner. For example, I still have the Finder window open for the ‘saved state’ folders, and I have one Safari window open. When I hit the corner the Safari window is displayed, but the Finder window isn’t. Is there a way to make Lion show _all_ open windows?

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**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/safari-5-1-7-questions/626141/9 "2012-06-24T15:40:08Z")

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Exposé has changed a lot - it’s now integrated in with Spaces.  
On my MacBook, I get little “stacks” of windows for each application. I can select which window I want from the stack.  
Play around with the F9 & F10 and see if one of their behaviors is what you want.

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**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/safari-5-1-7-questions/626141/10 "2012-06-24T15:45:38Z")

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F9 doesn’t seem to do anything. F10 opens a window that allows me to change sounds. I’ve just found a page that says you can’t display all windows anymore. Which is a bit of a pain, sine I’m installing new software and can’t get to the window unless I hide Safari.

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**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/safari-5-1-7-questions/626141/11 "2012-06-24T15:49:36Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> F9 doesn’t seem to do anything. F10 opens a window that allows me to change sounds. I’ve just found a page that says you can’t display all windows anymore. Which is a bit of a pain, sine I’m installing new software and can’t get to the window unless I hide Safari.

Hold the Function key down…  
The default behavior is for those keys to be dedicated to UI stuff now.

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**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/safari-5-1-7-questions/626141/12 "2012-06-24T15:54:22Z")

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fn+F9 and fn+F10 don’t seem to do anything.

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**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/safari-5-1-7-questions/626141/13 "2012-06-24T15:59:38Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> fn+F9 and fn+F10 don’t seem to do anything.

Look in System Preferences-\> Mission Control and see what your keyboard shortcuts are set to.

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**Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/safari-5-1-7-questions/626141/14 "2012-06-24T16:13:03Z")

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Those appear to be unassigned. But from what I can see elsewhere, it’s not possible to display all windows anymore.
