# Sage Rat, your time is up

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**Created:** [January 22, 2020, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sage-rat-your-time-is-up/846807 "2020-01-22T17:49:15Z")\
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> [@Grrr](#):
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> I think in this context they meant impeached as in booted from office.

In the 2017 thread, some people agreed:

> [@Name the Impeachment Date for President Trump](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-the-impeachment-date-for-president-trump/776879/56):
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> Bah. Legalistic quibbling. When people say “Impeached” they mean removed from office, not just charged.

But others did not:

> [@Name the Impeachment Date for President Trump](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-the-impeachment-date-for-president-trump/776879/78):
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> I don’t. And when we’re debating an actual impeachment, it would behoove us to use the proper term, too.

There was this exchange:

> [@Name the Impeachment Date for President Trump](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-the-impeachment-date-for-president-trump/776879/53):
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> > [@Okrahoma](#):
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> > That’s why I added “successfully”.
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> Yes, I know. And you’re wrong. Impeachment begins and ends in the House. A successful impeachment is one that passes in the House. An unsuccessful impeachment is one that does not pass in the House. It’s flat out wrong to say that an impeachment that passed in the House is somehow “unsuccessful”. What the Senate does is a separate issue.

> [@Name the Impeachment Date for President Trump](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/name-the-impeachment-date-for-president-trump/776879/84):
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> This is silly. The word “successful” is nearly meaningless in that sentence, according to your interpretation. Are unsuccessful impeachments super-common, any time someone introduces a bill of impeachment and it goes nowhere?
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> Of course impeachment begins and ends in the house–but the purpose of an impeachment is to remove the president from office. You succeed at your action by accomplishing your aims. If you impeach the president and the president is not removed from office, you haven’t accomplished your aims. It’s only a successful impeachment if the president is removed from office.

I obviously can’t waive any claims Okrahoma might make, and I’ll pass on any commentary he has.

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